KingSausage said:

Human Touch. Knocked Out Loaded and Down In the Groove. Dirty Work. Never Let Me Down and Tonight. I think plenty of the greats have albums shitty enough to compare to HITNRUN.

Human Touch, Dirty Work and Never let me down Tonight more cringe worthy and embarassing than

HitnRUN? don't think so..

don't know about Knocked out Loaded.. since I'm not much of a Dylan fan..

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YES!

In Square Circle

Invincible / Blood on the Dancefloor

Human Touch

Earthlings

Stevie Wonder and MJ have not done enough original material for as long to be compared alongside Prince - however they both have albums worse than Prince's worst (which I don't consider to be HnR).

In my humble opinion, Springsteen is the only artist who has continued to release consistently strong albums whilst still experimenting and looking to develop his songcraft and musicianship.

RJOrion said:

MJ was produced by other folks his entire career....never understood the comparison between the two...Prince could do what MJ did...MJ couldnt do what Prince does/did...

Not true.

He produced a lot of songs by himself without outside producers.

Prince can do what MJ did huh? Is Prince one of the greatest dancers of his generation revered by the likes of Fred Astaire? Did Prince single-handedly revolutionise the genre of music videos? Could Prince hold 80,000 people in the palm of his hand with just a single spotlight and his God-given gift? No, no and no.

Harps said:

YES!

In Square Circle

Invincible / Blood on the Dancefloor

Human Touch

Earthlings

Stevie Wonder and MJ have not done enough original material for as long to be compared alongside Prince - however they both have albums worse than Prince's worst (which I don't consider to be HnR).

In my humble opinion, Springsteen is the only artist who has continued to release consistently strong albums whilst still experimenting and looking to develop his songcraft and musicianship.

Invincible and Blood On The Dancefloor piss all over HitNRun/20Ten/Musicology/3121/Plectrum/AOA.

Songs like Butterflies, Morphine, Is It Scary, Whatever Happens, You Rock My World, Blood On The Dancefloor, Speechless, Break of Dawn are better than anything Prince has done for years.

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That depends on who you ask.

NouveauDance said:

Well MJ is a dead pedophile with less than a fifth of the output of Prince so lets not even go there, regardless of the quality of HitNRun.

Not sure why you felt the need to point out the fact that MJ is dead, as if if that is somehow a failing on his part or something that can be held against him. Hate to burst your bubble but Princey too will be clogging it himself at some point in the next 30 years or so.

And the fact is, MJ is more relevant and influencial in death than Prince is in life. You only have to check out todays charts, from The Weeknd to Beyonce, Justin Timberlake, Robin Thicke, Janelle Monae, Kanye West, Chris Brown, Timbaland, Justin Bieber, Bruno Mars, Lady Gaga, Will.i.am, Daft Punk, Pharell Williams, Miley Cyrus, John Mayer, Alicia Keys, Jay Z, Judith Hill, Calvin Harris.... practically every modern popstar today cites MJ as their main influence. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Trying to downplay his significance by stating the obvious (that he is dead) or raking up unproven accusations about his personal life will not change the fact that MJ will always be seen as a measure of greatness in pop music.

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Harps said:

KingSausage said:

Harps said:

YES!

In Square Circle

Invincible / Blood on the Dancefloor

Human Touch

Earthlings

Stevie Wonder and MJ have not done enough original material for as long to be compared alongside Prince - however they both have albums worse than Prince's worst (which I don't consider to be HnR).

In my humble opinion, Springsteen is the only artist who has continued to release consistently strong albums whilst still experimenting and looking to develop his songcraft and musicianship.

Earthling is fantastic!

I liked Earthling too, especially Little Wonder and Dead Man Walking, but it did have a touch of the midlife crisis about it. But if Earthling is being in your mid-40s and cruising the streets top down in your new sports car, HitNRun is being in your mid-sixties and staggering out of a club with your daughters friends, pissing yourself in the street and then passing out in a pool of your own vomit.

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KingSausage said:

Harps said:

YES!

In Square Circle

Invincible / Blood on the Dancefloor

Human Touch

Earthlings

Stevie Wonder and MJ have not done enough original material for as long to be compared alongside Prince - however they both have albums worse than Prince's worst (which I don't consider to be HnR).

In my humble opinion, Springsteen is the only artist who has continued to release consistently strong albums whilst still experimenting and looking to develop his songcraft and musicianship.

Earthling is fantastic!

I'm a big Bowie fan, but always struggled with this album...................

MattyJam said:

Harps said:

YES!

In Square Circle

Invincible / Blood on the Dancefloor

Human Touch

Earthlings

Stevie Wonder and MJ have not done enough original material for as long to be compared alongside Prince - however they both have albums worse than Prince's worst (which I don't consider to be HnR).

In my humble opinion, Springsteen is the only artist who has continued to release consistently strong albums whilst still experimenting and looking to develop his songcraft and musicianship.

Invincible and Blood On The Dancefloor piss all over HitNRun/20Ten/Musicology/3121/Plectrum/AOA.

Songs like Butterflies, Morphine, Is It Scary, Whatever Happens, You Rock My World, Blood On The Dancefloor, Speechless, Break of Dawn are better than anything Prince has done for years.

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I respectfully disagree about the 2 MJ albums. I've always really wanted to like Invincible, in fact I still revisit it now in the hope it will suddenly improve. I'm not saying that they're aren't a couple of great songs on it (however that is the case for all Prince albums for me) but I find listening to the whole album very very hard work.

Harps said:

YES!

In Square Circle

Invincible / Blood on the Dancefloor

Human Touch

Earthlings

Stevie Wonder and MJ have not done enough original material for as long to be compared alongside Prince - however they both have albums worse than Prince's worst (which I don't consider to be HnR).

In my humble opinion, Springsteen is the only artist who has continued to release consistently strong albums whilst still experimenting and looking to develop his songcraft and musicianship.

In Square Circle??

the album that has "Overjoyed", one of the best songs he's ever done

and classic song "Part time Lover"? This album is not nearly as bad as HITNRUN

and Invincible kills this album ..

MattyJam said:

FunkyD said:

Harps said:

YES!

In Square Circle

Invincible / Blood on the Dancefloor

Human Touch

Earthlings

Stevie Wonder and MJ have not done enough original material for as long to be compared alongside Prince - however they both have albums worse than Prince's worst (which I don't consider to be HnR).

In my humble opinion, Springsteen is the only artist who has continued to release consistently strong albums whilst still experimenting and looking to develop his songcraft and musicianship.

In Square Circle??

the album that has "Overjoyed", one of the best songs he's ever done

and classic song "Part time Lover"? This album is not nearly as bad as HITNRUN

and Invincible kills this album ..

The reason I love music so much is that it is all about opinions and taste. Overjoyed is good, not his best work. Part Time Lover! Really? I find this song dated and cringeworthy. I would take HitnRun over this uninspired album anyday!

MattyJam said:

Harps said:

YES!

In Square Circle

Invincible / Blood on the Dancefloor

Human Touch

Earthlings

Stevie Wonder and MJ have not done enough original material for as long to be compared alongside Prince - however they both have albums worse than Prince's worst (which I don't consider to be HnR).

In my humble opinion, Springsteen is the only artist who has continued to release consistently strong albums whilst still experimenting and looking to develop his songcraft and musicianship.

Invincible and Blood On The Dancefloor piss all over HitNRun/20Ten/Musicology/3121/Plectrum/AOA.

Songs like Butterflies, Morphine, Is It Scary, Whatever Happens, You Rock My World, Blood On The Dancefloor, Speechless, Break of Dawn are better than anything Prince has done for years.

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If only HITNRUN was nearly as good.. you'd have fans saying it's his best album in Years.

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Harps said:

FunkyD said:

In Square Circle??

the album that has "Overjoyed", one of the best songs he's ever done

and classic song "Part time Lover"? This album is not nearly as bad as HITNRUN

and Invincible kills this album ..

The reason I love music so much is that it is all about opinions and taste. Overjoyed is good, not his best work. Part Time Lover! Really? I find this song dated and cringeworthy. I would take HitnRun over this uninspired album anyday!

most Stevie fans consider this one to be a great classic Stevie song though. Prince dosen't have a song that touches this one alone in the last 20 years if you ask me..

and hate or love "Part time lover".. it's a hit.. not a hit and run

FunkyD said:

None of the great ones have embarassed themselves more than Prince on HitNrun..

Oh please - there's nothing on Hitnrun that we haven't heard before from Prince.

FunkyD said:

Harps said:

The reason I love music so much is that it is all about opinions and taste. Overjoyed is good, not his best work. Part Time Lover! Really? I find this song dated and cringeworthy. I would take HitnRun over this uninspired album anyday!

most Stevie fans consider this one to be a great classic Stevie song though. Prince dosen't have a song that touches this one alone in the last 20 years if you ask me..

and hate or love "Part time lover".. it's a hit.. not a hit and run

"I Just called to say I Love you" was a hit but in my humble opinion did more damage to his credibility than helped it.

There are many Prince songs from the last 20 years I would rate above Overjoyed - though admittedly not above Superstitious, You and I, Big Brother, Visions, Living for the City, All in Love is Fair and many more..................Damn Stevie is good

Bowie has had two really bad albums in 'Tonight' and Never let me down' Athough there were some great songs on it eg. Loving the alien and 'Never let me down (title track).' THe last few bowie albums have been amazing. His career has been far more consistant then prince and Bowie pulled himself out of the 80's rut he got himself into. in the 90's he was a ruthless experimenter. Then he went into a more mature sound in the 00's. Prince could do the same.

lezama said:

Bowie has a ton of bad albums.. His last few though have been amongst his best. I dont listen to the others to have a point of view on their music.

Harps said:

MattyJam said:

Invincible and Blood On The Dancefloor piss all over HitNRun/20Ten/Musicology/3121/Plectrum/AOA.

Songs like Butterflies, Morphine, Is It Scary, Whatever Happens, You Rock My World, Blood On The Dancefloor, Speechless, Break of Dawn are better than anything Prince has done for years.

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I respectfully disagree about the 2 MJ albums. I've always really wanted to like Invincible, in fact I still revisit it now in the hope it will suddenly improve. I'm not saying that they're aren't a couple of great songs on it (however that is the case for all Prince albums for me) but I find listening to the whole album very very hard work.

its interesting with 'Invincible' The opening track is just the normal MJ track. Heaven can wait is good, butterlfies and speechless are not bad. And i really enjoy 'dont walk away' the rest is take it or leave it to be honest. re-tread. But still listenerable.

lagantest said:

The real question is: why Prince's fans that do not love HITNRUN have to open new threads to show this? Do you think this could help you in some way? Or you think a thread like this can change my opinion about HITNRUN?

SanMartin said:

lagantest said:

Bowie has had two really bad albums in 'Tonight' and Never let me down' Athough there were some great songs on it eg. Loving the alien and 'Never let me down (title track).' THe last few bowie albums have been amazing. His career has been far more consistant then prince and Bowie pulled himself out of the 80's rut he got himself into. in the 90's he was a ruthless experimenter. Then he went into a more mature sound in the 00's. Prince could do the same.

To be fair to Prince, he did quite a lot of jazz and instrumental stuff in the early 2000s. If anything he's in a rut now, not exactly because his new music's bad but rather because he's not doing anything he hasn't done before. Then again, Bowie didn't break any new ground with 'Heathen' and 'Reality', yet they're both excellent albums.

you are right. However heathen was an album where he used all his knowledge on. It was a full band performance, had energy, excitment and actual good songs with melodies. And as usual with Bowie had classic tracks that you couldnt miss off a greatest hits etc.

I think Prince should just lock himself away with different instruments and just play. Be quirky and stop trying to be cool. Please yourself not others.

lagantest said:

lagantest said:

SanMartin said:

lagantest said: To be fair to Prince, he did quite a lot of jazz and instrumental stuff in the early 2000s. If anything he's in a rut now, not exactly because his new music's bad but rather because he's not doing anything he hasn't done before. Then again, Bowie didn't break any new ground with 'Heathen' and 'Reality', yet they're both excellent albums.

you are right. However heathen was an album where he used all his knowledge on. It was a full band performance, had energy, excitment and actual good songs with melodies. And as usual with Bowie had classic tracks that you couldnt miss off a greatest hits etc.

I think Prince should just lock himself away with different instruments and just play. Be quirky and stop trying to be cool. Please yourself not others.

Heathen was anything but a great album melodically. There are only a couple of tracks on there I like, the rest of it just sounds like he is trying way way too hard.

MattyJam said:

Not this MJ is better than Prince , Prince is better than MJ shit I have to say though the MJ fan sounds butt hurt why?

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Guitarhero said:

Not this MJ is better than Prince , Prince is better than MJ shit I have to say though the MJ fan sounds butt hurt why?

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Truth hurts.........