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The sad case of the media patronizing Prince
Prince is a legend. Prince is known for his talent not only as a musician but his artistry as a composer and the artistry of crafting sonic recordings as a producer. In the begging of his career, he was treated like any new artist. Reviewed critically by the top music critics at the time. And back then, before everyone and anyone was able to post an opinion, and music was a lucrative industry, and newspapers and magazines paid for the top talent, top music reviewers were know by name. Sure there were a lot of bad ones too, but it was all more condensed so the bad ones were easily picked out by other critics and readers alike. Billboard Mplsound is sometimes stronger still [than "Lotusflow3r"], with the party whoop of '(There'll Never B) Another Like Me,' the delicious dirty mind of 'Chocolate Box' and 'Ol' Skool Company,' which will have you partying like its 1985.
The New York Times-AOA While the production details of each track are full of lessons in musicianly ingenuity
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Fuck me. Hundalasiliah! | |
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MPLSound IS pretty crappy. ArtOfficialAge DID get get good reviews. So I don't really C what's the problem here. | |
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Thank you for this long intro to your usual AOA is Crap statement.
The history of reviewing is littered with critics who got it wrong, you can find clueless reviews about Elvis, the Beatles, the Stones, Citizen Kane, etc. in the archives of countless newspapers -- some of these reviews are in fact terribly funny today.
The Metacritic quotes pale in comparison, so much for your theory that the art of reviewing has gone downhill. Taste arbitring is by definition done by people who think they are more refined, but unfortunately "good taste" can also mean "ultra-conventional things none of my friends will dare challenge unless they want to be called tacky". | |
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a turkey is a turkey.....MPLSound...NPS....AOA... | |
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I thought AOA got a 95% score on Metacritic. Oh, wait. That was Black Messiah, the album Prince wishes he could make. My mistake! "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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AOA is not a bad album, it's not great, it's a solid AVERAGE album...
Stop always making AOA sound like it's horrible... If you want a horrible boring Prince album, PLANET EARTH is the one. | |
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V10LETBLUES said:
And what the fuck is “musicianly” .
[Edited 8/11/15 14:29pm] Musicianly is an adjective. | |
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thedoorkeeper said: V10LETBLUES said:
And what the fuck is “musicianly” .
[Edited 8/11/15 14:29pm] Musicianly is an adjective. I know what the nitwit was trying to say, but what the fuck else would a mucicians work sound like? Priince sounds musiciany, Too fucking funny. | |
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Let's you're right and a good chunk of reviewers are mindlessly incompetent, at least you'll think the other chunk is perhaps better, even good at their job.
Excluding that chunk who raved about AOA, your opinion on the record is still twice as negative as some of the less favorable reviews from major outlets.
So you're going against more than people who raved, even those who share your displeasure didn't pan it as completely as you did. In other words, you're in the minority of the minority and it sounds like you think 95 % of critics are horribly below you in terms of taste.
But let's continue the hatefest, I guess it's a way to blow steam. | |
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Record reviews are (sometimes) really funny to me alot of times,I'm amazed at the stuff that a critic focuses on.I'm also surprised by some of the stuff that they overlook. | |
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In the digital age where almost every piece of information on any given subject is available, why would anybody use music critics as a gauge on how good or bad a piece of music is? When somone like Prince reaches longevity and certain amount of cultural equity in pop culture, most reviewers are going to write about the current music based on biases they have to their prime or can't understand that what inspired that artist' most acclaimed work way back when has changed. Sometimes for better and sometimes worse. Its to the point where any artist that comes after him releasing music based on Prince's older ideas are only scratching the surface of what he did in the '80s, he can afford to be "patronized". 3121 #1 THIS YEAR | |
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bashraka said: In the digital age where almost every piece of information on any given subject is available, why would anybody use music critics as a gauge on how good or bad a piece of music is? When somone like Prince reaches longevity and certain amount of cultural equity in pop culture, most reviewers are going to write about the current music based on biases they have to their prime or can't understand that what inspired that artist' most acclaimed work way back when has changed. Sometimes for better and sometimes worse. Its to the point where any artist that comes after him releasing music based on Prince's older ideas are only scratching the surface of what he did in the '80s, he can afford to be "patronized". It's not a question of affording to be patronized, who wants to be patronized to. It's not like he is a cripple or really that old to be patronized to. His live shows show he still has it and should not be patronized to. Sure some of it is out of respect, which sounds funny because those two things contradict each other. You do not patronize someone you respect. But mostly it's out of cronyism. Remember all those "better than sott" by people who would got access to him for interviews for 20ten? Who really thinks 20ten is better than Sott? Remember the all the hacks like Edna Gunderson who slobbed over Mnplsound, the only album she could grasp from the 3 disk lotusflow3r after he gave her access to him? All I am saying is that it's sad that hacks patronize there man for whatever reason. It's not like he is in a wheelchair suffering from MS, he is still a legend churning out music, sounds like he is still serious about his work and people treat him like he is crippled has-been legend that needs to be patronized to for special access to for cheap hits to their digital rags. | |
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[Edited 8/12/15 7:26am] The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.
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I like how he's an underground artist n he throws his music out there in cool ways,ie, get his album in a magazine or hoop jumping etc. Sure keeps it interesting n makes you look forward to things. Least he's still trying. [Edited 8/11/15 23:54pm] | |
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terrig said:
I agree wholeheartedly. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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For some reason you seem to think your opinion is the only valid one. You basically just insulted all your fellow prince fans who got any enjoyment from AOA. You seem to be unable to grasp the reality that different people like different things. I certainly don't see AOA (or any Prince album as a failure). That is completely over the top and is not objectively true.
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There seem to be certain prerequisites in album reviews that I wish we could get away from: . 1. Mentioning the name change. He's Prince now, has been for 15 years. 2. Mentioning the battle with WB/record industry, unless it directly is relevant to the new project 3. Mentioning past failures - such as the GB movie or defunct websites. 4. Mentioning his height (it's more common than you think). "The diminutive rocker releases his new album..." 5. Mentioning purple. 6. Saying that a new project is a "return to form" . Whenever I read some of these things in an interview, I wonder if the author just ran out of things to say and is padding his review to fill a character quota.
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There was one good review of AOA definitely every prince watcher should read.
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/legitimately-magical-prince-album
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That's a good review alright. I'm liking AOA more over time, although it still irks me that the concept all but disappears for the middle third of the album. | |
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yeah...I guess it has its moments...I like the way this was written... Funky alien | |
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jaawwnn said:
That's a good review alright. I'm liking AOA more over time, although it still irks me that the ctoncept all but disappears for the middle third of the album. Yeah that's the bizarre thing. If you look at Metacritic, you see a lot of reviews on the 60ish range, then two off the wall gushing reviews taking the total into the 70 range. I understand it's a business and businesses have connections that can curry favors. This was after all an official Warner Brothers release so you know there was a lot of brown nosing cronyism involved with such an entrenched long time player in the gaming of the music industry. After the bomb and favors traded to no avail, it's easy to see why WB would sober up on a follow-up tax write-off. | |
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Aoa was the best lp of 2014. Fantastic . Not modern but no throw back. Experimental tracks that worked well. But no promotion.tsk tsk | |
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khemseraph said: Aoa was the best lp of 2014. Fantastic . Not modern but no throw back. Experimental tracks that worked well. But no promotion.tsk tsk It's as "experimental as a 90's boy band album. | |
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Look, I really liked AOA and all. But you have to be living in such a Prince bubble to think it was the best album of 2014. That's just crazy. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Because you think AOA is a musical failure doesn't make it so to everyone. It doesn't make the reviewer incompetent or a hack for enjoying the album and reporting it. | |
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I think many people on the org mention everything on your list (almost daily) - much more than any album reviewer could. | |
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