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Thread started 08/14/15 5:33pm

EnDoRpHn

Guitar Player re-visits 2004 R&R HOF Performance

and mentions HitNRun release:

http://www.guitarplayer.c...2004/53539

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Reply #1 posted 08/14/15 5:49pm

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EnDoRpHn said:

and mentions HitNRun release:

http://www.guitarplayer.com/artists/1013/prince-covers-for-clapton-on-all-star-performance-of-while-my-guitar-gently-weeps-in-2004/53539

Prince Covers for Clapton...itarPlayer

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Reply #2 posted 08/15/15 12:35am

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nosajd said:

EnDoRpHn said:

and mentions HitNRun release:

http://www.guitarplayer.com/artists/1013/prince-covers-for-clapton-on-all-star-performance-of-while-my-guitar-gently-weeps-in-2004/53539

Prince Covers for Clapton...itarPlayer

Are we all posting the link?

Here it is again

RIP sad
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Reply #3 posted 08/15/15 2:23am

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You can click one of the many links above to see this now legendary performance.

At the time here on the Org, lots of fans were awed, the usual suspects said he was showboating, that Petty was annoyed, etc., etc. same old same old. Prince would walk on water they'd say he was only doing it for cash and stole the idea from Jesus lol.

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Reply #4 posted 08/15/15 3:09am

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Prince took it higher and then brought it home. I expected nothing less. I loved it and everyone looked happy to me.
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Reply #5 posted 08/15/15 3:10am

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And Tom Petty's LDWMJ is one of my favorite videos of all time. Just saying. Lol.
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Reply #6 posted 08/15/15 10:59am

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I think Petty did think he was showboating which he clearly was, this is prince we're talking about.

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Reply #7 posted 08/15/15 11:20am

RodeoSchro

I have watched this performance many times and I've come to the conclusion that the most impressive part is when Prince yanks his guitar over his head and throws it into the crowd - without the strap coming anywhere near his hat.

Now, you might think I'm joking but really I'm not. Put on a brimmed hat like Prince's sometime and try to get a guitar off your head without knocking your hat off.

On a more serious note, the differences in expression between Tom Petty and Dhani Harrison are priceless. I love Dhani's glee!

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Reply #8 posted 08/15/15 12:03pm

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In my view Tom was in awe. Didn't know P could jam like that.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #9 posted 08/15/15 1:52pm

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I can't imagine Tom Petty, Jeff Lynne or Dhani Harrison expecting anything else from Prince other than a complete over-the-top performance. It was all planned and rehearsed, so I don't understand why people say that Petty was annoyed. Maybe didn't know how to play off Prince's stage antics, which would be understandable. The look on Dhani Harrison's face is priceless -- it's been noted that he's a huge admirer of Prince's work.

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People seem to want to incite trouble or point out problems where there are none.

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Reply #10 posted 08/15/15 7:47pm

TrevorAyer

RodeoSchro said:

I have watched this performance many times and I've come to the conclusion that the most impressive part is when Prince yanks his guitar over his head and throws it into the crowd - without the strap coming anywhere near his hat.

Now, you might think I'm joking but really I'm not. Put on a brimmed hat like Prince's sometime and try to get a guitar off your head without knocking your hat off.

On a more serious note, the differences in expression between Tom Petty and Dhani Harrison are priceless. I love Dhani's glee!



Agreed ... Prince handling his guitar has always been part of his cool .. I used to love the look and way he hung his guitar behind him while singing lgc ... In fact the cool of that "look" has outlasted the cool of that song ... And petty is among the greats ... I can't imagine petty not completely digging prince in that moment
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Reply #11 posted 08/15/15 8:00pm

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Prince killed it. This is my second favorite guitar solo played by him -- the first would be his 1990 version of "Bambi" from the Nude Tour in Tokyo. I can listen to that one over and over again

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Reply #12 posted 08/16/15 4:08am

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Se7en said:

I can't imagine Tom Petty, Jeff Lynne or Dhani Harrison expecting anything else from Prince other than a complete over-the-top performance. It was all planned and rehearsed, so I don't understand why people say that Petty was annoyed. Maybe didn't know how to play off Prince's stage antics, which would be understandable. The look on Dhani Harrison's face is priceless -- it's been noted that he's a huge admirer of Prince's work.

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People seem to want to incite trouble or point out problems where there are none.

This being the Org, you had quite a few people who, instead of being proud Prince clearly nailed that solo, said things like:

- OMG Prince is such a showboat, that was completely inappropriate and tacky.

- OMG did you see Prince just leave the stage like he was all that? What a pompous prick.

- OMG you can tell Petty is so annoyed Prince had to make this tribute all about himself.

Not sure who said Prince would get criticized on the Org if he cured cancer but there's definitely some truth to that. Maybe "OMG Prince is curing cancer now and yet we still don't have that album he said was coming this summer/winter/fall/spring. What a douche."

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Reply #13 posted 08/16/15 4:36am

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Yes, it was very nice AND it''s another entry into the 'what lies did Prince tell'-thread, as he claimed he'd never heard the song beofre asking to perform on it.

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Reply #14 posted 08/16/15 5:19am

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Pentacle said:


Yes, it was very nice AND it''s another entry into the 'what lies did Prince tell'-thread, as he claimed he'd never heard the song beofre asking to perform on it.




I believe him. Is it so hard for a guitar GOD to just listen on the spot and strum along (that's what he looked like he was doing to me) until his turn to do his thing? I say no.
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Reply #15 posted 08/16/15 5:50am

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Here's what else I see. Prince is getting the go ahead to keep playing from somebody, Tom I guess. A couple times he looks and smiles over to his right, and then keeps going! Nobody tells him to stop. They all love it. Tom starts feeling it in his bones, you call that dancing.
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Reply #16 posted 08/16/15 1:41pm

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This is a jaw dropping performance by anyone's standard.

If you've never heard the Beatles version go and listen to it now. The guitar solo in the original is there but also kind of isn't there. It's just a few notes... Prince hit's all of them. There is no way on earth Prince hadn't heard the original. This solo was worked on, it's built organically from the original, and designed to showcase his flashy playing style - because it's mesmerizing.

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Reply #17 posted 08/16/15 2:31pm

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I wouldn't bet on it. If he says he never heard it before then I'll take his word for it. I would take Tom Petty's word as well if he says he was bothered by Prince. But until then. worship
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Reply #18 posted 08/16/15 2:35pm

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iZsaZsa said:

Pentacle said:


Yes, it was very nice AND it''s another entry into the 'what lies did Prince tell'-thread, as he claimed he'd never heard the song beofre asking to perform on it.

I believe him. Is it so hard for a guitar GOD to just listen on the spot and strum along (that's what he looked like he was doing to me) until his turn to do his thing? I say no.

I recall reading that he'd been sent the song a couple of weeks earlier and that was the first time he'd heard it. It's not like he just turned up and plugged in.

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Reply #19 posted 08/16/15 3:01pm

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leecaldon said:



iZsaZsa said:


Pentacle said:


Yes, it was very nice AND it''s another entry into the 'what lies did Prince tell'-thread, as he claimed he'd never heard the song beofre asking to perform on it.





I believe him. Is it so hard for a guitar GOD to just listen on the spot and strum along (that's what he looked like he was doing to me) until his turn to do his thing? I say no.


I recall reading that he'd been sent the song a couple of weeks earlier and that was the first time he'd heard it. It's not like he just turned up and plugged in.


Whatever he said he did is what I believe he did and he doesn't belong on the "What lies did Prince tell?" thread for saying it.
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Reply #20 posted 08/16/15 5:03pm

RodeoSchro

Aerogram said:

Se7en said:

I can't imagine Tom Petty, Jeff Lynne or Dhani Harrison expecting anything else from Prince other than a complete over-the-top performance. It was all planned and rehearsed, so I don't understand why people say that Petty was annoyed. Maybe didn't know how to play off Prince's stage antics, which would be understandable. The look on Dhani Harrison's face is priceless -- it's been noted that he's a huge admirer of Prince's work.

.

People seem to want to incite trouble or point out problems where there are none.

This being the Org, you had quite a few people who, instead of being proud Prince clearly nailed that solo, said things like:

- OMG Prince is such a showboat, that was completely inappropriate and tacky.

- OMG did you see Prince just leave the stage like he was all that? What a pompous prick.

- OMG you can tell Petty is so annoyed Prince had to make this tribute all about himself.

Not sure who said Prince would get criticized on the Org if he cured cancer but there's definitely some truth to that. Maybe "OMG Prince is curing cancer now and yet we still don't have that album he said was coming this summer/winter/fall/spring. What a douche."


I may not be the only one that's said that, but I know I said almost those exact words once, LOL. Glad someone remembered!

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Reply #21 posted 08/16/15 5:45pm

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Aerogram said:

Se7en said:

I can't imagine Tom Petty, Jeff Lynne or Dhani Harrison expecting anything else from Prince other than a complete over-the-top performance. It was all planned and rehearsed, so I don't understand why people say that Petty was annoyed. Maybe didn't know how to play off Prince's stage antics, which would be understandable. The look on Dhani Harrison's face is priceless -- it's been noted that he's a huge admirer of Prince's work.

.

People seem to want to incite trouble or point out problems where there are none.

This being the Org, you had quite a few people who, instead of being proud Prince clearly nailed that solo, said things like:

- OMG Prince is such a showboat, that was completely inappropriate and tacky.

- OMG did you see Prince just leave the stage like he was all that? What a pompous prick.

- OMG you can tell Petty is so annoyed Prince had to make this tribute all about himself.

Not sure who said Prince would get criticized on the Org if he cured cancer but there's definitely some truth to that. Maybe "OMG Prince is curing cancer now and yet we still don't have that album he said was coming this summer/winter/fall/spring. What a douche."

LOL seriously, that happened? You would think that people would just care that we got some masterful guitar playing, more casual fans getting into Prince, and more importantly, a smile being brought on Dhani Harrison's face who just lost his father.

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Reply #22 posted 08/16/15 7:07pm

Bluu

RodeoSchro said:

I have watched this performance many times and I've come to the conclusion that the most impressive part is when Prince yanks his guitar over his head and throws it into the crowd - without the strap coming anywhere near his hat.

Now, you might think I'm joking but really I'm not. Put on a brimmed hat like Prince's sometime and try to get a guitar off your head without knocking your hat off.

On a more serious note, the differences in expression between Tom Petty and Dhani Harrison are priceless. I love Dhani's glee!

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This was a great observation you made. I could have watched this video a hundred times and not picked up on how deftly he got that guitar strap over the brim of his hat without knocking it off. That detail alone speaks to Prince's commitment to putting on a performance, not just playing the #*(& out of that solo, but making it a real show for the audience. He must work quite hard to create his onstage image/persona. He made it look so easy, but I wonder how many times he practiced that guitar throw before he was confident enough to do it at the RRHOF show in front of a worldwide audience.

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Reply #23 posted 08/16/15 7:58pm

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iZsaZsa said:

leecaldon said:



iZsaZsa said:


Pentacle said:


Yes, it was very nice AND it''s another entry into the 'what lies did Prince tell'-thread, as he claimed he'd never heard the song beofre asking to perform on it.





I believe him. Is it so hard for a guitar GOD to just listen on the spot and strum along (that's what he looked like he was doing to me) until his turn to do his thing? I say no.


I recall reading that he'd been sent the song a couple of weeks earlier and that was the first time he'd heard it. It's not like he just turned up and plugged in.


Whatever he said he did is what I believe he did and he doesn't belong on the "What lies did Prince tell?" thread for saying it.


If I recall, it was said Prince had never heard the tune or couldn't recall it well enough before he was sent a copy a week before the performance to rehearse. I don't think he himself said this and there's a difference between having heard of the song and being familiar enough with it to play it.

It's just one of those statements that was reported on and that was then interpreted and misinterpreted.
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Reply #24 posted 08/16/15 8:25pm

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Aerogram said:

You can click one of the many links above to see this now legendary performance.

At the time here on the Org, lots of fans were awed, the usual suspects said he was showboating, that Petty was annoyed, etc., etc. same old same old. Prince would walk on water they'd say he was only doing it for cash and stole the idea from Jesus lol.

The naysayers have really got to you haven't they? I mean, like, real deep inside. Want some free advice? Letitgo.

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Reply #25 posted 08/17/15 1:51am

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Aerogram said:

iZsaZsa said:


Whatever he said he did is what I believe he did and he doesn't belong on the "What lies did Prince tell?" thread for saying it.


If I recall, it was said Prince had never heard the tune or couldn't recall it well enough before he was sent a copy a week before the performance to rehearse. I don't think he himself said this and there's a difference between having heard of the song and being familiar enough with it to play it.

It's just one of those statements that was reported on and that was then interpreted and misinterpreted.

Thank you. smile
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Reply #26 posted 08/17/15 1:52am

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filthyrichyuppie said:



Aerogram said:


You can click one of the many links above to see this now legendary performance.



At the time here on the Org, lots of fans were awed, the usual suspects said he was showboating, that Petty was annoyed, etc., etc. same old same old. Prince would walk on water they'd say he was only doing it for cash and stole the idea from Jesus lol.



The naysayers have really got to you haven't they? I mean, like, real deep inside. Want some free advice? Letitgo.


I will! Thank you.
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Reply #27 posted 08/17/15 4:36am

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Aerogram said:

iZsaZsa said:
Whatever he said he did is what I believe he did and he doesn't belong on the "What lies did Prince tell?" thread for saying it.
If I recall, it was said Prince had never heard the tune or couldn't recall it well enough before he was sent a copy a week before the performance to rehearse. I don't think he himself said this and there's a difference between having heard of the song and being familiar enough with it to play it. It's just one of those statements that was reported on and that was then interpreted and misinterpreted.


Yes, and there was a note to go along with that: "Dear Prince, because there are no record stores in Minneapolis, and because we know that very few musicians have the Beatles albums in their collection, we hereby send you the song. P.S. Be sure to throw the guitar strap over your hat without touching it at the end, so the people can be in awe, because this special George Harrison performance is all about you. Peace."

Stop the Prince Apologists ™
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Reply #28 posted 08/17/15 5:25am

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Pentacle said:



Aerogram said:


iZsaZsa said:
Whatever he said he did is what I believe he did and he doesn't belong on the "What lies did Prince tell?" thread for saying it.

If I recall, it was said Prince had never heard the tune or couldn't recall it well enough before he was sent a copy a week before the performance to rehearse. I don't think he himself said this and there's a difference between having heard of the song and being familiar enough with it to play it. It's just one of those statements that was reported on and that was then interpreted and misinterpreted.


Yes, and there was a note to go along with that: "Dear Prince, because there are no record stores in Minneapolis, and because we know that very few musicians have the Beatles albums in their collection, we hereby send you the song. P.S. Be sure to throw the guitar strap over your hat without touching it at the end, so the people can be in awe, because this special George Harrison performance is all about you. Peace."


You're a liar.
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Reply #29 posted 08/19/15 7:04am

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[Edited 8/19/15 7:07am]

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/
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