Is Prince The Newest Tidal Co-Owner?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2015/07/04/is-prince-the-newest-tidal-co-owner/

I suppose anything is possible. However, Prince licensing his songs to stream on Tidal doesn't make him any more the co-owner of Tidal than selling his songs in the iTunes store makes him a co-owner of Apple.

3 Eyes in "The Roc"...

Hard Roc Lover....?

Ora, Rhi-Rhi

...now Bey & Jay?

Eh...Not sure..Bey is like "The Queen of Trap" now..

Easy for the well-established to make such moves...

Good for them, as long as they do not build the same sort of construct for others coming-up.

I'm surprised that Prince hasn't started something like Tidal many years ago.Considering how much he complains that artists aren't fairly compensated for their work.Seems like he could have beaten Jay-Z to the punch,many many years ago.

SoulAlive said:

I'm surprised that Prince hasn't started something like Tidal many years ago.Considering how much he complains that artists aren't fairly compensated for their work.Seems like he could have beaten Jay-Z to the punch,many many years ago.

I'll give this 6 months...tops and Prince will pull out.

SoulAlive said:

I'm surprised that Prince hasn't started something like Tidal many years ago.Considering how much he complains that artists aren't fairly compensated for their work.Seems like he could have beaten Jay-Z to the punch,many many years ago.

Agreed. he had his own tool for streaming and buying directly from him.

Was that not good enough?? smh

Graycap23 said:

SoulAlive said:

I'm surprised that Prince hasn't started something like Tidal many years ago.Considering how much he complains that artists aren't fairly compensated for their work.Seems like he could have beaten Jay-Z to the punch,many many years ago.

I'll give this 6 months...tops and Prince will pull out.

lol...yeah that sounds about right

SoulAlive said:

I'm surprised that Prince hasn't started something like Tidal many years ago.Considering how much he complains that artists aren't fairly compensated for their work.Seems like he could have beaten Jay-Z to the punch,many many years ago.

Agreed. he had his own tool for streaming and buying directly from him.

Was that not good enough?? smh

paisleypark4 said:

I can't, Prince.

Not another sign up fee. I probably wouldn't listen to most of the other 'artists' on Tidal anyway.

I love you, but this type of shit makes people (me) want to download things illegally.

laurarichardson said:

paisleypark4 said:

SoulAlive said:

I'm surprised that Prince hasn't started something like Tidal many years ago.Considering how much he complains that artists aren't fairly compensated for their work.Seems like he could have beaten Jay-Z to the punch,many many years ago.

Agreed. he had his own tool for streaming and buying directly from him.

Was that not good enough?? smh

[/quote. No it was not some fool hacked into the site and stole the files and doubt that many people signed up in the first place. I want some of you to name other artist wha can take their catalog anywhere the want. Not one album not just a song. Partnering up with Tidal is smart move and I sure he getting the money he wanted and deserved. If works out great it is does not he has nothing to lost but cheap ass fans who were not buying anything anyway.

Amy Mann has been doing it for years. And other artists have been doing it too. The difference is that Prince wanst more fans and more money. Also, other artists have retain full rights without sacraficing integrity or pissing off their fans.

Graycap23 said:

Is Prince The Newest Tidal Co-Owner?

Now, after a few very telling actions, it looks like the great Purple One may have finally given his seal of approval to one of the many streaming options. Earlier this week, he took his music off every service that carried any of it and allowed Tidal, the Jay Z-led newcomer to the industry, to stream his work.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2015/07/04/is-prince-the-newest-tidal-co-owner/

All this has done essentially is decrease his revenue stream so he could make a point. Very, very few people are going to sign up for TIDAL just so they can stream a bunch of Prince songs they already own.
The general public isn't going to give two shits about Prince---if they didn't bother to buy AOA (and most of them didn't), they're not going to be running to signup for TIDAL to hear Prince.

The real clincher for me though has nothing to do with TIDAL, which is going to tank anyways, but with his contract with Warners. He's got to be facing some serious financial blowback now with WB, no? I'm confused about how that relationship is going. I would highly doubt the WB deal meant Prince could just disregard his obligations to them--therein lies the question.... what were the obligations?

laurarichardson said:

No it was not some fool hacked into the site and stole the files

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What nonsense is this?

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I want some of you to name other artist wha can take their catalog anywhere the want.

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Stones, who've gotten paid REPEATEDLY for doing exactly so. (Note that the Stones knew about ownership of master recording decades before Prince after getting screwed, yet Prince didn't give a rat's arse until he'd signed a contract he later regretted -- a contract that his entourage had advised against, but he knew better.)

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Phil Collins just licensed his whole solo discography to WBR for deluxe editions.

BartVanHemelen said:

Blixical said:

Graycap23 said:

Is Prince The Newest Tidal Co-Owner?

Now, after a few very telling actions, it looks like the great Purple One may have finally given his seal of approval to one of the many streaming options. Earlier this week, he took his music off every service that carried any of it and allowed Tidal, the Jay Z-led newcomer to the industry, to stream his work.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2015/07/04/is-prince-the-newest-tidal-co-owner/

All this has done essentially is decrease his revenue stream so he could make a point. Very, very few people are going to sign up for TIDAL just so they can stream a bunch of Prince songs they already own.
The general public isn't going to give two shits about Prince---if they didn't bother to buy AOA (and most of them didn't), they're not going to be running to signup for TIDAL to hear Prince.

I'm not sure... How much money do you think Prince was actually making from Spotify? A couple of thousand a month? if that? That's no real loss. He can work one night and make 10 times what he does in a month from streaming services.

Tidal pays artists 5 times what Spotify does. If a fan uses Spotify then I can't see any real issue moving to Tidal. Especially given the way tidal trades on exclusive content and bonus videos.

The real clincher for me though has nothing to do with TIDAL, which is going to tank anyways, but with his contract with Warners. He's got to be facing some serious financial blowback now with WB, no? I'm confused about how that relationship is going. I would highly doubt the WB deal meant Prince could just disregard his obligations to them--therein lies the question.... what were the obligations?

Tidal has too many big names attached to Tank. Jack White, Alicia Keys, Jay-Z, Kanye, Madonna, Daft Punk, etc etc. These names aren't just "available" - They're co-owners of the business. In terms of content tidal has the potential to be the richest of all the streaming services.

As for WB - All the other artists on Tidal also have record companies. Tidal offering albums a couple of weeks before mass release isn't going to impact hugely on sales. If a fan is using a streaming service then they likely wouldn't buy a disc anyway.

A few weeks back they posted something on the Twitter page about Spotify being Part owned by record labels, so they were essentially being paid twice while the artist got paid the once.

So this doesnt suprise me if he has.

VelvetKittyKat said:

I can't, Prince.

Not another sign up fee. I probably wouldn't listen to most of the other 'artists' on Tidal anyway.

I love you, but this type of shit makes people (me) want to download things illegally.

I didn't get my money's worth from Lotusflow3r.com.

what is tidal doing to put money in the artists pockets that OTHERS ARENT doing?

luvsexy4all said:

iZsaZsa said:

iZsaZsa said:

luvsexy4all said:

what is tidal doing to put money in the artists pockets that OTHERS ARENT doing?

TIDAL does a 75% split as opposed to the others' 70%.

I'm not sure where you got that info from?

Tidal claim they pay artists 2.4 cents per stream. A statement says 1.4 cents.

Spotify claim they pay artists 0.7 cents per stream. A statement 0.4 cents.

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2015/05/04/tidal-says-theyre-paying-artists-5-times-as-much-as-spotify

It doesn't sound like a lot but it soon mounts up to a vast difference. It's possible both companies pay artists on a sliding scale thus accounting for the difference in PPS.

BartVanHemelen said:

laurarichardson said:

Noodled24 said:

I still don't get why I'd pay to listen to Prince's stuff on Tidal when I have it already. (And you know they're only going to play the "legal" stuff there.)