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Thread started 05/31/15 6:25pm

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So will the deluxe remasters never see the light of day?

I know this has probably been talked about recently but what do you guys think? Will we see a remastered album in the near future or has that press release from last year turned into BS?
all that glitters ain't gold.
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Reply #1 posted 05/31/15 6:28pm

Gohi

That is correct.

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Reply #2 posted 05/31/15 6:35pm

RumAndRaisin

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they are not happening in any shape or form.

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Reply #3 posted 05/31/15 7:41pm

nosajd

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NO
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Reply #4 posted 05/31/15 9:47pm

Strive

You ever follow what happened with Jimi Hendrix after his death? Imagine that times a million for Prince.

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Reply #5 posted 05/31/15 9:55pm

CharismaDove

Unfortunately, I highly doubt it'll happen until Prince's death. But I really want him to do it now. His '80s albums are in desperate need of remastering, and would sound 1 million times better if they were. Michael Jackson's two '80s albums, Thriller and Bad, sound flawless in 2015. Prince's Sign o' the Times sounds... well... there was a thread about that already. lol

Maybe eye do, just not like eye did before pimp2
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Reply #6 posted 06/02/15 12:29pm

SoulAlive

I've stopped waiting for these remasters.If it happens,great.If not,then so be it.

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Reply #7 posted 06/02/15 12:47pm

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No

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Reply #8 posted 06/02/15 12:59pm

luvsexy4all

Strive said:

You ever follow what happened with Jimi Hendrix after his death? Imagine that times a million for Prince.

yeh ..but the bootleggers will cash in ..not his estate

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Reply #9 posted 06/02/15 1:03pm

Mong

Not out until mid-2016.

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Reply #10 posted 06/02/15 7:27pm

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Foefur remasters gave me all I needed.

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Reply #11 posted 06/02/15 7:35pm

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luvsexy4all said:

Strive said:

You ever follow what happened with Jimi Hendrix after his death? Imagine that times a million for Prince.

yeh ..but the bootleggers will cash in ..not his estate

Nothing wrong with that!

If P doesnt want the money, then fark him!

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Reply #12 posted 06/02/15 9:54pm

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callimnate said:

If P doesnt want the money, then fark him!

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Reply #13 posted 06/03/15 12:47am

thedance

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Mong said:

Not out until mid-2016.

or.. maybe 2026 or 2036.. sad

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Reply #14 posted 06/03/15 2:46am

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thedance said:

Mong said:

Not out until mid-2016.

or.. maybe 2026 or 2036.. sad

or 2046 or 2056 lol

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Reply #15 posted 06/03/15 4:15am

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it just seems like he doesn't really care about his fans. He even said that he has already been there so why redo it, he " lived it already"....obviously showing no regard for how important it is to the people who didn't get to live it, yet they made him super rich. I guess he forgets so many of us were so desperate to hear anything new from him that we would go oUT and buy ANY new vversion of a song he would make, remixes and 12" singles. some of us were kids and spending everything we had to buy it. maybe he doesn't remember being in love with music. He just doesn't understand why it is important, if he did we would all have a perfect 13 minute long version of Computer Blue. It's probably the same reason why he doesn't get why his new music isn't as beloved. ......he thinks it's because we just wanna hear his old music rehashed. .....but no. ....we just want the soul, the power, the anguish and feelings back in it. Colonized Mind is so close for example, but Prince in the 80s would have been screaming that last chorus, would have changed the dynamic of the song by the end. .....he wasn't trying to sell it. ....it was feeling and power! There is no reason he can't be making music like this now except he had no anguish and pain to express anymore, he's a multi millionaire in his fifties who just isn't in touch with that side anymore. It's terrible no one around him cares enough to make sure he isn't eating his talent. Seems like Micheal Jackson had the same issue, he didn't get it but everyone was afraid to say it to his face.

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Reply #16 posted 06/03/15 4:40am

pdiddy2011

MandyFlores said:

it just seems like he doesn't really care about his fans. He even said that he has already been there so why redo it, he " lived it already"....obviously showing no regard for how important it is to the people who didn't get to live it, yet they made him super rich. I guess he forgets so many of us were so desperate to hear anything new from him that we would go oUT and buy ANY new vversion of a song he would make, remixes and 12" singles. some of us were kids and spending everything we had to buy it. maybe he doesn't remember being in love with music. He just doesn't understand why it is important, if he did we would all have a perfect 13 minute long version of Computer Blue. It's probably the same reason why he doesn't get why his new music isn't as beloved. ......he thinks it's because we just wanna hear his old music rehashed. .....but no. ....we just want the soul, the power, the anguish and feelings back in it. Colonized Mind is so close for example, but Prince in the 80s would have been screaming that last chorus, would have changed the dynamic of the song by the end. .....he wasn't trying to sell it. ....it was feeling and power! There is no reason he can't be making music like this now except he had no anguish and pain to express anymore, he's a multi millionaire in his fifties who just isn't in touch with that side anymore. It's terrible no one around him cares enough to make sure he isn't eating his talent. Seems like Micheal Jackson had the same issue, he didn't get it but everyone was afraid to say it to his face.

I don't agree with some of your thoughts, but nice to see a detailed explanation of your thoughts.

Comparing a guy in his mid 20s versus himself in his mid 50s will almost always result in a huge dropoff, by most criteria - except possibly mentally.

Has it been discussed if remasters are financially feasible? Whether Prince cares about his fans or not - why remaster an album that may only sell 5 to 10% of initial sells? Is it really worth the trouble?

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Reply #17 posted 06/03/15 7:05am

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pdiddy2011 said:

Has it been discussed if remasters are financially feasible? Whether Prince cares about his fans or not - why remaster an album that may only sell 5 to 10% of initial sells? Is it really worth the trouble?

Sigh...

Just stop pressing copies of the old records and issue only the remastered copies.

Then the cost is just the mastering as the stampers etc need to be replaced anyways after so many copies.

Oh, and the artwork in the jewel case needs to say 'remastered' somewhere.

Just do it.

Do not add any extra tracks as mr P is too whatever to make a quality product.

And let us please get on with our lives after obtaining said remaster(s).

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #18 posted 06/03/15 8:25am

rusty1

MandyFlores said:

it just seems like he doesn't really care about his fans. He even said that he has already been there so why redo it, he " lived it already"....obviously showing no regard for how important it is to the people who didn't get to live it, yet they made him super rich. I guess he forgets so many of us were so desperate to hear anything new from him that we would go oUT and buy ANY new vversion of a song he would make, remixes and 12" singles. some of us were kids and spending everything we had to buy it. maybe he doesn't remember being in love with music. He just doesn't understand why it is important, if he did we would all have a perfect 13 minute long version of Computer Blue. It's probably the same reason why he doesn't get why his new music isn't as beloved. .....he thinks it's because we just wanna hear his old music rehashed. .....but no. ....we just want the soul, the power, the anguish and feelings back in it. Colonized Mind is so close for example, but Prince in the 80s would have been screaming that last chorus, would have changed the dynamic of the song by the end. .....he wasn't trying to sell it. ....it was feeling and power! There is no reason he can't be making music like this now except he had no anguish and pain to express anymore, he's a multi millionaire in his fifties who just isn't in touch with that side anymore. It's terrible no one around him cares enough to make sure he isn't eating his talent. Seems like Micheal Jackson had the same issue, he didn't get it but everyone was afraid to say it to his face.

BOB4theFUNK
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Reply #19 posted 06/03/15 8:26am

rusty1

You are 100% correct
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Reply #20 posted 06/03/15 1:33pm

SoulAlive

The problem is,Prince doesn't want his fans to celebrate or focus on his past.He only wants us to focus on what he's doing now.That's an unrealistic thing to expect from the fanbase.He apparently doesn't like nostalgia but he's forgetting that his old songs and albums is what made him an iconic superstar.Prince never looks at things from a fan's point of view.

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Reply #21 posted 06/03/15 1:52pm

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If Prince wants fans to focus on what he's doing now, then why does he only play the old stuff at concerts? Because he knows that's what people want to hear. My guess is he just thinks there's more money to be made at concerts than with remasters. Most people who come to see him already know the hits anyway. So what's the point of re-releasing them at a higher price? Because those box sets are quite expensive. And how much of that money really goes to the artist?
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Reply #22 posted 06/03/15 2:12pm

SoulAlive

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If Prince wants fans to focus on what he's doing now, then why does he only play the old stuff at concerts? Because he knows that's what people want to hear. My guess is he just thinks there's more money to be made at concerts than with remasters. Most people who come to see him already know the hits anyway. So what's the point of re-releasing them at a higher price? Because those box sets are quite expensive. And how much of that money really goes to the artist?

yeah,but the fans love stuff like this! Look at the excitement that Beatles fans experienced a while back when all of their albums were released in mono and stereo box sets.Hardcore fans live for stuff like this lol Goes back to what I said earlier.Prince never looks at things from a fan's perspective.And since Prince owns his master recordings,I would assume that he would make alot of money on these.

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Reply #23 posted 06/03/15 10:37pm

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SoulAlive said:

NorthC said:

If Prince wants fans to focus on what he's doing now, then why does he only play the old stuff at concerts? Because he knows that's what people want to hear. My guess is he just thinks there's more money to be made at concerts than with remasters. Most people who come to see him already know the hits anyway. So what's the point of re-releasing them at a higher price? Because those box sets are quite expensive. And how much of that money really goes to the artist?

Prince owns his master recordings,I would assume that he would make alot of money on these.He certainly would, even if it only sold a tenth of the original issue. The other thing he is forgetting is most of the Purple Rain crowd is 40+ so they aren't all hello bent on dowe loading and will happily buy the CD and commemorative stiff that accompanies it. Siht I would even buy the vinyl! I don't think he realizes how much he hurts his fanbase with the selfish decisions he makes like this. He knows his gift is from God, not for him to just with hold the amazing amount of music he produced during that time. The longer he waits the less fans he has the less money he will make. Does he even bother to come in here ?

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Reply #24 posted 06/03/15 10:46pm

jazzz

A question from my side... Will it be beneficial if Prince himself coordinates the remasters?? Can he resist the urge to do "touch up" overdubs or even censoring some rough language, thereby irreversibly altering the multitrack tapes??
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Reply #25 posted 06/04/15 12:54am

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SoulAlive said:

The problem is,Prince doesn't want his fans to celebrate or focus on his past.He only wants us to focus on what he's doing now.That's an unrealistic thing to expect from the fanbase.He apparently doesn't like nostalgia but he's forgetting that his old songs and albums is what made him an iconic superstar.Prince never looks at things from a fan's point of view.

U are right, you are soooo spot on, once again... wink

Prince is an a*shole for not giveing and caring about what his fans needs, when it comes to the old studio albums, the albums back from his glory days...

Maybe Prince thinks the brilliant music from back then overshadows the new "medium / good" music he is making now..?

Anyway. What a pity..... sad

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Reply #26 posted 06/04/15 1:02am

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NorthC said:

Because those box sets are quite expensive. And how much of that money really goes to the artist?

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If only he could have re-negociated this... OH WAIT.

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Meanwhile fucking hippie Grateful Dead fans get an 80 disc box set. EIGHTY DISCS. "80 CDs with 30 complete, previously unissued shows, one from each year of the Dead's touring life." From a band where there's already a ton of free concert recordings available.

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Reply #27 posted 06/04/15 1:06am

SoulAlive

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Meanwhile fucking hippie Grateful Dead fans get an 80 disc box set. EIGHTY DISCS. "80 CDs with 30 complete, previously unissued shows, one from each year of the Dead's touring life." From a band where there's already a ton of free concert recordings available.

check out what the Isley Brothers are releasing in a few months.....a massive 23(!!) CD box set featuring damn near all their albums,remastered with bonus tracks,including an entire unreleased live album from 1980!

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Reply #28 posted 06/04/15 1:07am

SoulAlive

Prince should be ashamed of himself for not thinking more of the fans disbelief

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Reply #29 posted 06/04/15 1:18am

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^ SoulAlive: I completely agree... and it makes me a bit sad really......

The good stuff may be released when we (the older fans) are long gone and dead.... in 2030 or semething... eek sad

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