terrig said:

How would you know what it's like being a Prince fan I wonder? I guess you could try asking one of us.

warning2all said:

terrig said:

Maybe Prince believes his past albums are FINISHED and are as good as they can be the way they are, and mentally, he's finished them and not able to be in the same headspace he was when he created them.

I think you are bang on! He doesn't have a problem handpicking individual songs to perform live from his catalog -- but I think the albums onto themselves are projects he moves on from--onto the next project.

Exactly, a fan would be better at putting together a boxset/reissue than him. They care more about it. Rightly so btw, he's done his work, he should have no reason to revisit it.

but then this is where his control freak-ery and fear of people profiting off him comes in...

thedance said:

hell the Purple Rain 2CD remaster was announced in an article last year, wasn't it..

Nope, it wasn't.

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rusty1 said:

I've been a fan for almost 31 years. I would have to say that he hasn't done anything groundbreaking in a very long Time.. Since the WB deal of April 2014,Still hasn't put any Remasters out. He's not good to his fans at all. "Purple Rain" should've gotten that 30th yr royal treatment last year. He's full of shit about not looking back into his past.. Prince does greatest hits shows live.. The guy is a shell of himself.. I only want to hear his vast catalog of unreleased songs. The new releases since 2004 have been okay to simply dreadful. I just want those remasters from his classic 1980 to 88 period.. Of course every single unreleased from that Era.

you saw the crescent, he saw the whole of the moon,,u lie and call hin a coon lol

FunkyHarry said:

thedance said:

hell the Purple Rain 2CD remaster was announced in an article last year, wasn't it..

Nope, it wasn't.

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http://prince.org/msg/7/407971?

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anyone know someone at Rhino? maybe they could approach his people

Speaking from an accessability point only, his output over the past 2-3 years has been scattered and hard to get. It would be nice if someone could just go and buy the stuff from one spot -- be it his own site, or iTunes, or Amazon, etc.

Se7en said:

rusty1 said:

You guys are dead on.. Everything Prince does is amazing.. he's as relevant as ever & on top of his game.. By the way his last top 10 hit single was in 1994.. You guys are probably the same knuckle heads who love the "come" album & "Chaos & Disorder". Prince wouldn't be a legend without 1980 to 88.. Byran Adams is celebrating 30th yr of his "Reckless" CD.. That is how u treat your longtime fans. Prince doesn't care about his fans or his career. Album after Album falls off the charts within 5 days. Very little or no promotion.. He lied to his fans about releasing all of his vault material over & over again. Prince will never make a great album of new material ever again.. Plus he lost his mind becoming a Jw in 1998.. Not normal not celebrating birthdays or holidays.. When he does interviews talks in riddles. Then gets caught up in all of this Freddie Gray situation. Can u focus on being somewhat relevant again? Prince doesn't care

There is a chasm between "it's tough being a Prince fan" and "everything Prince does is amazing".

As is typical, someone with a largely negative opinion of Prince who gets upset because everyone doesn't think just about everything Prince does is crap or not good - except during his so-called glory years.

rusty1 said:

Without the so-called glory years 1980-88.. He wouldn't be a legend today

Yes that period made him a legend but songs like No More Candy For You and U Know show that he is not yet done creating his legacy. Show me songs by Madonna, B. B. King, Paul McCartney or Stevie Wonder from the last 7 years that are as good as those two songs. Those musicians are also Legends but they are done Prince continues to put out gems. Yes there are albums that have clunkers but come on name one song from the last Paul McCartney album that floored you.

thedoorkeeper said:

Quotes from rusty1 on being a Prince fan: "Prince doesn't care about his fans..." "he (Prince) lost his mind.." "Prince doesn't care." "he's(Prince) full of shit..." "the guy is a shell of himself..." - That doesn't sound like a fan talking. - "I only want to hear his vast catalog of unreleased songs." "I just want those remasters from his classic 1980 - 88 period." - What it sounds like is a spoiled child. I want. I want. I want.

rusty1 said:

I've been a fan for almost 31 years. I would have to say that he hasn't done anything groundbreaking in a very long Time.. Since the WB deal of April 2014,Still hasn't put any Remasters out. He's not good to his fans at all. "Purple Rain" should've gotten that 30th yr royal treatment last year. He's full of shit about not looking back into his past.. Prince does greatest hits shows live.. The guy is a shell of himself.. I only want to hear his vast catalog of unreleased songs. The new releases since 2004 have been okay to simply dreadful. I just want those remasters from his classic 1980 to 88 period.. Of course every single unreleased from that Era.

Yeah it's very tough being a fan of an artist who has released dozens of albums and hundreds of songs, and whose the most bootlegged in tthe history of pop music with hundreds of shows and hundreds of outtakes circulating. I mean yeah, it's so BORING, like there's really not much music to listen to

databank said:

Some fans dig him though...

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^^ That was pretty funny LOL ! Thanks for posting

7roses said:

Some fans dig him though...

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When you're at a concert, most of the day-to-day complaints wash away and you end up loving him again.

Se7en said:

When you're at a concert, most of the day-to-day complaints wash away and you end up loving him again.

KingSausage said:

databank said:

rusty1 said:

I've been a fan for almost 31 years. I would have to say that he hasn't done anything groundbreaking in a very long Time.. Since the WB deal of April 2014,Still hasn't put any Remasters out. He's not good to his fans at all. "Purple Rain" should've gotten that 30th yr royal treatment last year. He's full of shit about not looking back into his past.. Prince does greatest hits shows live.. The guy is a shell of himself.. I only want to hear his vast catalog of unreleased songs. The new releases since 2004 have been okay to simply dreadful. I just want those remasters from his classic 1980 to 88 period.. Of course every single unreleased from that Era.

Yeah it's very tough being a fan of an artist who has released dozens of albums and hundreds of songs, and whose the most bootlegged in tthe history of pop music with hundreds of shows and hundreds of outtakes circulating. I mean yeah, it's so BORING, like there's really not much music to listen to

rusty1 said:

warning2all said:

rusty1 said:

Without the so-called glory years 1980-88.. He wouldn't be a legend today

Particularly his current Era...is not the stuff of popularity. He's riding on his name. The pyjamas & messy afro, and his backing band 3rd Eye Girl---his whole presentation is lacking. What happened to the guy? Is this it from now on?

Is that your warning 2 all?

prince is still the best musician and music innovator of our time.

he's like:

what frank sinatra was to his generation

elvis presley was to his generation

james brown was to his generation

jimi hendrix was to his generation (and beyond)

carlos santana from the late sixties generation to today he survived the gauntlet of bad drugs.

what i'm saying is all of the above weren't consistent in always giving what their fans expected, however they were the best at what they did.

prince is

June 7, 1958 (age 56)

he's already made his bones in the music industry, like it or not, and he is doing it "his way."

no one is making any of us go to his concerts. heck i'd go to the santa clara fair grounds in san jose, ca just to enjoy who he is as a musician.

it's his agenda, like it or not.

maybe we need to stop seeing him in the memories of the 'way it was' and see it as it is today. after all none of us look the same, talk the same as we did when we became prince fans. we started our admiration of him way back in 1978- via his first album'for you', and etc.

the younger prince fans may well admire him for certain phases he took them/us all through as far as his musical ride in sound and presentation(s).

however prince is prince and ones expectation of him varies. well so much for my preachology.

as for me,

i still am an admirer of prince, and feel i will forever be a luver of his musicical genius and musicial styles.

he is his OWN man.

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Some of the songs/albums we get are "growers", when we expect them all to be instant classics. Sometimes, the wrong songs are put on the wrong albums.

Prince played Act Of God at the Detroit concert last month, and it rocked. I've always liked the track, but hearing it live brought a whole new appreciation.

jcurley said:

Just been reading this. I think there are two things going on here. Stated or unstated I think we n critics n musicians have put an emphasis on prince as some kind of music messiah. Everyone who knows accepts Prince as a genius. I think even McCartney or Bowie would nod to prince. But the criticism he gets is based on us holding out for a musical messiah. Everyone here has probably felt the same as you but god look at the music he has produced. For me it's sooo good that it actually ruins general music listening . He HAS fulfilled that role. Anymore is just greed. Secondly I genuinely believe Prince is a very insecure man. I think he craves popularity but he's not addressing real issues. I'm probably wrong but musically I think he has a relationship with the public that most people do with private ones. He seems to test that love until he feels vindicated that yrs he was right in thinking you hate him. Essentially he's a masochistic n struggles to be happy. In that regard he's very human n very typical

I feel much the same way.

Responding to the topic, I should be satisfied but I'm not. Prince is on a respected mountain high pedestal in my musical catalogue and with all the unreleased material and live shows I've been fortunate enough to obtain there's never a shortage of greatness to get me through this lifetime but..... it is frustrating knowing that it wouldn't take much (physical effort) to get official remasters of his albums.

SoTT deserves it! I won't speculate why it doesn't happen but a box set with EVERYTHING remastered would be a dream come true...

Here's why it's tough being a Prince fan...The Isley Brothers are getting ready to release a massive,23-CD (!!) box set containing damn near all their albums remastered with bonus tracks,including an entire unreleased 'live in the studio' album from 1980!!

We have to sit back and watch other artists upgrade their catalogs,while Prince ignores his.

The guy is speaking the truth clearly. I still think he's the best live act in the world today and his legacy is untouchable but he is of course a total freak and not always in the good way. Speaking in riddles and doing interviews in ALL CAPS is just LAME. And if Larry Graham showed him the way to Jehovah that's fine just don't take the magazine. Of course it's true he hasn't released anything of substance in years (Art Official Cage was actually one of the few half relevant things he's done in years but I wonder how much Joshua A.M.) had to do with it).

As far as 3rd Eye Girl. Let's be serious they're a bit of an embarassment. Lord knows what happened at that Massey Hall Hit n Run show that the band leaked and he skipped out on because he 'wasn't feeling it'. The media cover his ass because they were pumping the story all day and are worried about their comped tickets the next time around. After deleting the 3rd Eye twitter account and clearly spanking them all roundly on the bottom it looks like he rehearsed the shit out of them. That said the first set of Plectrum Electrum material at the Sony Hit n Run show was middling at best. That said, particularly as the show went on, it became clear that Ida Neilson and thankfully TO's Donna Grantis have decent chops and can hold it down- at least in rock mode. That Hannah Welton is a godawful drummer though. Just terrible. Without adding the more versatile members of the touring band like Cassandra O'Neil, Shelby J., Maceo and relying more and more on the sampler I don't think he could pull it off with this band. That said I cried three times at the Toronto show when it finally happened.

It is tough being a Prince fan. Except for those few hours inside the concert if you're lucky enough to get in.