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Reply #30 posted 03/08/15 9:11pm

JoshuaWho

Unless there is some ailment that he is concealing perfectly, Prince is in better shape than most people half his age. He has the advantage of not living hard through those young years when most rock stars are killing themselves trying to live the socalled rock star life. As is true with his career, Prince has outlived his contemporaries - artistically and otherwise - for 2 basic reasons: being smarter and being better.

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Reply #31 posted 03/09/15 1:20am

fnksoul

Defiantley, if the Rolling Stones can do it i'm certain Prince could.

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Reply #32 posted 03/09/15 3:14am

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I don't understand why this is even a question. He has shown no signs of being in bad shape or health.

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Reply #33 posted 03/09/15 3:28am

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Bambi82 said:

I don't understand why this is even a question. He has shown no signs of being in bad shape or health.

Welcome to the Org, land of misplaced concerns on everything Prince.

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Reply #34 posted 03/09/15 3:40am

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Bambi82 said:

I don't understand why this is even a question. He has shown no signs of being in bad shape or health.

I never said prince could be in bad health, more questioning why he doesnt do full world tours anymore? Wishful thinking that he will do one! But who knows, maybe he just doesnt feel up to it anymore! Which could be a bit mental and physical.

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Reply #35 posted 03/09/15 3:58am

warning2all

Prince can't focus or commit to any project long enough, beit an album, an album promotion, a extensive tour.

Its hard to be Prince and mount a world tour without any hype (a current hit album & singles and make money off a long tour).
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Reply #36 posted 03/09/15 4:30am

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Agreed, having to commit to loads of dates months in advance isn't his style these days.

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Reply #37 posted 03/09/15 6:09am

fnksoul

jaawwnn said:

Agreed, having to commit to loads of dates months in advance isn't his style these days.



Exactly it,


Wether he/we likes it or not now he is a Hits Artist, a full world tour IMO would have to be on the back of new material/hit album which he obviously doesnt feel strong enough about.

He's happy playing short lead shows with little commitment playing out his hits and mixing in a few other tracks.

He doesnt need the money from a major tour and probabaly has very little interest in someone actually telling him what he has to do and when.

Personally, I've seen him 4 times in the last 12 months and I think if he was to announce another Hit & Run in the UK I would think twice about going. As much as I've enjoyed each one I think the whole concept is a little played out now.

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Reply #38 posted 03/09/15 6:32am

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I think it is not easy for the man, not physically but mentally.A world tour means larger venues with bookings in advance. Who is going to take this financial risk of not having full house - certainly not the man himself. And a sold out show is not a given in many locations anymore. And with a full house you need a solid 2 hour well rehearsed show which is the same evening after evening. I can understand after almost 40y in business that he will not get the kicks out of this idea. And still many hits have his falsetto voice - clearly that is a challenge in a world tour. Believe the man will consider there are too many uncertainties surrounding such tour
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Reply #39 posted 03/09/15 6:37am

fnksoul

umfufu1 said:

I think it is not easy for the man, not physically but mentally.A world tour means larger venues with bookings in advance. Who is going to take this financial risk of not having full house - certainly not the man himself. And a sold out show is not a given in many locations anymore. And with a full house you need a solid 2 hour well rehearsed show which is the same evening after evening. I can understand after almost 40y in business that he will not get the kicks out of this idea. And still many hits have his falsetto voice - clearly that is a challenge in a world tour. Believe the man will consider there are too many uncertainties surrounding such tour




You talking about Prince? The guy who sold out how many Arena shows in the UK/Europe last year? with only 2 weeks notice. the Manchester arena alone was around 20,000 capacity for 2 nights.


Album sales are lame for him sure, but when it comes to live shows its somethign that sells.

Plus the financial risk isnt anything for Prince to worry about, this is generally picked up by the promoter with the artists recieving their Fee either way. The promoter being Live Nation recently.





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[Edited 3/9/15 6:42am]

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Reply #40 posted 03/09/15 10:40am

Stimpy

As several here have pointed out, he has been on tour with 3EG for about 3 years now.

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Reply #41 posted 03/09/15 12:06pm

bobzilla77

jaawwnn said:

Agreed, having to commit to loads of dates months in advance isn't his style these days.

Yeah I agree. Hearing him talk about the Purple Rain tour, 100 dates doing the same show every night, it became physically painful for him to do. I don't think he wants to decide today, that he's going be onstage 3 months from now, because 3 months from now he may not feel like playing gigs. He may want to sail his yacht or tinker in his recombo-DNA lab or play Scrabble.

For all the complaints on this board can you imagine if he had done the usual thing of like, summer tour every year playing the same 80s hits night after night, for 20 years like Heart or Steve Miller? I've seen Steve Miller twice, and Heart once, and enjoyed them, and now there is no reason to ever see them again.

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Reply #42 posted 03/09/15 12:54pm

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Yes.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #43 posted 03/09/15 8:09pm

SoulAlive

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Prince can't focus or commit to any project long enough, beit an album, an album promotion, a extensive tour.

Exactly.This is what I said earlier.A world tour requires at least a six month commitment (or longer).Prince gets bored too quickly.After the first month,he would want to do something else lol

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Reply #44 posted 03/10/15 1:17am

Rebeljuice

Ive no doubt Prince could do a world tour if he wanted. Even if his body aches and pains more than it used to, just look at the Montreux 2009 shows. He hardly broke out into a sweat, yet put on an awesome set of shows. However, could he sell out a world tour?

He can sell out smaller venues (sometimes twice in a night), we all know that. But is that because he is so popular or because no one knows where/if he is next playing and so people scramble from far and wide to get to the gig? If people knew he was coming to their town or somewhere nearby in a month or two, would that same hit n run gig sell out so quickly? I dont know, Im just asking.

I think Prince is doing what he knows works best for him financially and with little risk. He can tour the US and the UK pretty much whenever he wants. People will queue up to see him. He can even venture into Europe and have a successful run of shows. He can sit in one place and do a long run of shows as he did in London in 07 (although he may struggle to sell out 21 nights these days). And he can do the odd festival. By doing that it requires the least amount of promotion and he gets to keep all of the proceeds (less venue fees). No promotors to argue with, no record company to take a chunk of money, no fixed setlists to do ad nausium and he can take a rest or change his mind whenever he wants.

A world tour, it seems to Prince anyway, is just a pain in the arse both financially and logistically. And it squashes his desire to do something on a whim or quit when he gets bored. This latest hit n run "tour" could go on for months or it could end after 3 shows.

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Reply #45 posted 03/10/15 1:42am

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Sure. Madonna is still touring and dancing her tailfeather off. Prince has always been an active and physically fit man.

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Reply #46 posted 03/10/15 3:44am

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First of all,the question is is he physically capable, so it is pointless to backtrack and say oh I meant mentally.

Two, I doubt Madonna would do anything small and intimate since that would make it about musicianship. She relies on big shows with effects and dancers, plus some vocal "help". She couldn't do a hit and run, everything is choreographed and synched, pun intended.
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Reply #47 posted 03/10/15 5:07am

vinaysfunk

Yes. What exactly is meant by a "world tour?" I guess we are referring to multiple countries in a continous run in specified amount of time. I also dont understand why people here keep saying Prince is having financial troubles or is paranoid of a financial hit. What actual proof is there of that? So yes, imo he is physically capable. But he likes the intimate settings and the excitment and buzz that quick promotions allow for. I also think his residency stays in one location at a time are a natural progression for anyone whose career has evolved. I know if I was a musician I would rather not travel as much and stay longer in one place rather than bouncing around. He is now his own version of a world tour by focusing on different countries in different years and performing in a variety of venues.

I just know the minute he does the conventional larger venues in a variety of countries in a short amount of time someone will start a post about why doens't Prince play small venues in a hit and run fashion!?

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Reply #48 posted 03/10/15 5:26am

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Aerogram said:

First of all,the question is is he physically capable, so it is pointless to backtrack and say oh I meant mentally.

Two, I doubt Madonna would do anything small and intimate since that would make it about musicianship. She relies on big shows with effects and dancers, plus some vocal "help". She couldn't do a hit and run, everything is choreographed and synched, pun intended.

Well physical and mental can go hand in hand sometimes.
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Reply #49 posted 03/10/15 6:05am

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At his age?

https://www.youtube.com/w...4WO0mirjlQ

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Reply #50 posted 03/10/15 7:01am

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3rdeyedude said:

He is worth 300 million dollars.

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Bullshit.

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Reply #51 posted 03/10/15 7:02am

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Stimpy said:

As several here have pointed out, he has been on tour with 3EG for about 3 years now.

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Sitting on your ass @ PP isn't touring.

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Reply #52 posted 03/10/15 8:38am

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BartVanHemelen said:

Stimpy said:

As several here have pointed out, he has been on tour with 3EG for about 3 years now.

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Sitting on your ass @ PP isn't touring.

He did 73 shows w/ 3EG (liveoutloud, hit and run) from 4/2013 through 8/2014, or 15 months.

U2 did 110 shows in 25 months on Vertigo.

Waters did 219 shows with the Wall in 36 months

Both of those shows require huge investment in stage and logistics, and can be assumed to be "maxed" out in terms of exposure and schedule.

That does not count aftershows (which no one else really does) or one-offs.

He just announced more shows in the US as Hit and Run 2 is extended.

Hardly sitting on his ass in PP, n'cest pas?

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Reply #53 posted 03/10/15 1:41pm

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Stimpy said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Sitting on your ass @ PP isn't touring.

He did 73 shows w/ 3EG (liveoutloud, hit and run) from 4/2013 through 8/2014, or 15 months.

U2 did 110 shows in 25 months on Vertigo.

Waters did 219 shows with the Wall in 36 months

Both of those shows require huge investment in stage and logistics, and can be assumed to be "maxed" out in terms of exposure and schedule.

That does not count aftershows (which no one else really does) or one-offs.

He just announced more shows in the US as Hit and Run 2 is extended.

Hardly sitting on his ass in PP, n'cest pas?

Don't feed the trolls.

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Reply #54 posted 03/10/15 8:21pm

SoulAlive

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I doubt Madonna would do anything small and intimate since that would make it about musicianship. She relies on big shows with effects and dancers, plus some vocal "help". She couldn't do a hit and run, everything is choreographed and synched, pun intended.

"small and intimate" is not Madonna's style.Her shows are big,theatrical affairs and there's nothing wrong with that.It's the type of artist she is.Subtlety has never been her style.

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Reply #55 posted 03/11/15 3:22am

Aerogram

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BartVanHemelen said:



3rdeyedude said:


He is worth 300 million dollars.



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Bullshit.



Says the guy who has been announcing Prince's imminent financial demise for well over a decade.

Whether this figure is largely theoretical or not, your concern is obviously based on having a negative fixation.
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Reply #56 posted 03/11/15 6:44am

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Aerogram said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Bullshit.

Says the guy who has been announcing Prince's imminent financial demise for well over a decade. Whether this figure is largely theoretical or not, your concern is obviously based on having a negative fixation.

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If Prince had 300 million we wouldn't have had numerous stories about him failing to pay his bills.

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Also, once again you're making shit up.

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Reply #57 posted 03/11/15 6:46am

savagedreams

its got nothing to do with if he can physically do it. its just not the way things work anymore, finacially speaking. very few bands do the big "world tour" like you used to see in the 80s and 90s. and then theres always the possibility that he just doesnt want to, which is the most likely.

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Reply #58 posted 03/11/15 9:17am

Stimpy

BartVanHemelen said:

Aerogram said:

BartVanHemelen said: Says the guy who has been announcing Prince's imminent financial demise for well over a decade. Whether this figure is largely theoretical or not, your concern is obviously based on having a negative fixation.

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If Prince had 300 million we wouldn't have had numerous stories about him failing to pay his bills.

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Also, once again you're making shit up.

Rich people are the WORST when it comes to paying bills.

they have full time lawyers anyway so the float makes up for it.

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Reply #59 posted 03/11/15 9:28am

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Stimpy said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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If Prince had 300 million we wouldn't have had numerous stories about him failing to pay his bills.

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Also, once again you're making shit up.

Rich people are the WORST when it comes to paying bills.

they have full time lawyers anyway so the float makes up for it.

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He failed to pay his lawyers' bills. Repeatedly.

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If he really had $300 million he'd be an idiot not to make an offer to WBR for the rights to his masters. Instead he re-signed with them and locked up his master rights for years.

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