JoshuaWho said:

V10LETBLUES said:

When unable to continue pretending they're winning with arguments, ultra opinionated folks often just vanish without saying a last word to save face, except of course those who are too grandiose about themselves who decide to condescend one last time with a .

Aerogram said:

Look who's lecturing on whiney complaints from someone who thinks he is sooooo much better than everybody else.

hw3004 said:

What's so different from Prince having a hit with Sexy MF, a song which owed JB as much of a debt than Ronson owes Prince here.

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"Sexy Mf" is far more Chic (hence them holding the Chic sign in the video).

JoshuaWho said:

The height of pure, unadulterated stupidity is expecting the foremost musical genius of our time to keep doing something that he defined and mastered over 3 decades ago while NO ONE has even come close to surpassing it in all that time.

BOOM!^^^^^^^







(this doesn't preclude uptown funk being a hit, or being a fun record, why should prince care? been there done that eons ago)

BartVanHemelen said:

hw3004 said:

What's so different from Prince having a hit with Sexy MF, a song which owed JB as much of a debt than Ronson owes Prince here.

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"Sexy Mf" is far more Chic (hence them holding the Chic sign in the video).

...well, Dirty Mind's credits thanks Joni (Mitchell) but it's hardly Blue!

I'm not that well versed in Chic's work but, to me, I always thought Sexy MF was the one of his more obviously JB inspired tracks (along with Prettyman and The Work) but, fair enough, different people

will hear different things...

[Edited 2/3/15 9:21am]

Yeah my world would be a much better place if Prince did either this, or that, and was more famous and made lots of money and everybody loved him so I could have my taste validated by those people and especially, all that money.

Uptown Funk is pure music rehash without a true update to that sound. So, Prince has put out far better uptown funk songs than the new rehash one.

hw3004 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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"Sexy Mf" is far more Chic (hence them holding the Chic sign in the video).

...well, Dirty Mind's credits thanks Joni (Mitchell) but it's hardly Blue!

I'm not that well versed in Chic's work but, to me, I always thought Sexy MF was the one of his more obviously JB inspired tracks (along with Prettyman and The Work) but, fair enough, different people

will hear different things...

JB, as the real father of funk music, can be said (in some sense or at some level) to be the inspiration of anything in the genre afterwards right? I think Bart's point is that there are bands/musicians who's unique take on funk may be a closer inspiration to the song in question. Chic may be a truer inspiration to Sexy MF than James and perhaps Zapp and Rodgers a closer inspiration to Uptown Funk than Prince (or at least parts of the instrumentation). But these conversations are generally hard unless everyone's familiar with all the artists at the same level.

V10LETBLUES said:

2funkE said:

What George Clinton album released after the age of forty-five appealed to the masses?

George had to be that age or older when he releas his biggest hit Atomic Dog. [Edited 2/2/15 6:57am]

That was 1982. There are some around here who think it still is. NOBODY over the age of 40 is constantly having hits in this Auto Tune age. And Prince is FOUR MONTHS away from being 57. So Prince's hit days washed away long long ago. Which makes it even more annoying that he is letting Josh somehow convince him that the "Prize Patrol" Loudhorn in AO Cage is such a great modern sound effect. We all know Prince can't control himself with sound effects....and worse Auto Tune. What really makes it frustrating, is underneath all the crap on AOA, there is some fine music, singing, and songwriting. And I don't need some stupid woman babbling and fumbling over psycho babble that is actually over the music. Would When Doves Cry have been a huge smash if the music was lower in the mix, and you had somebody talking over the music? No..

And George Clinton having a hit as an old artist in 1982 was not a big deal. Paul McCartney, Stevie Wonder, Elton John, and even Robert Plant, and numerous others who were getting older back then got airplay, lots of it...

But now...old artists are like some sort of disease to the powers that be. Sad.

It's still about the music. If Prince or George, as well as Justin Beiber or Taylor Swift released Atomic Dog today, it would still be a hit. If not bigger as this sound is mainstream now. There is no way you could keep it from blowing up. (as produced)

Sure sex sells, name recognition helps, promotion helps, ...it gets you a short cut to the fron lines, but if the work is not there, then it flounders. How many beautiful men and women have tried and failed to make it on looks alone? Even when you compete with the kiddies, ..there are so many vieing for that same spot, there is alwasy a filtering proccess. But media conglomnerates have less and less say in what people get to hear or see, they cannot dictate who we see or do mot see in the internet era.

Sure eventally every possible system gets currupted, hacked, gamed no matter how hard me make it not to be, but such is life.

[Edited 2/3/15 14:00pm]

Mandingo said:

Prince could write 'uptown funk'by Bruno Mars in the space of a toilet dump session n record it in one take. P could be releasing albums of hits instead he releases bullshit. Embarrassing Its like Miley getting rich off twerking like she invented it and Beyonce not coming back with a killer song n moves. P.. sup? [Edited 1/31/15 6:24am]

So he needs to be a man heading towards 60 and still having to keep up with perfect moments like Uptown Funk? Are we needing to go spend some time in the calm down corner?

lezama said:

hw3004 said:

...well, Dirty Mind's credits thanks Joni (Mitchell) but it's hardly Blue!

I'm not that well versed in Chic's work but, to me, I always thought Sexy MF was the one of his more obviously JB inspired tracks (along with Prettyman and The Work) but, fair enough, different people

will hear different things...

JB, as the real father of funk music, can be said (in some sense or at some level) to be the inspiration of anything in the genre afterwards right? I think Bart's point is that there are bands/musicians who's unique take on funk may be a closer inspiration to the song in question. Chic may be a truer inspiration to Sexy MF than James and perhaps Zapp and Rodgers a closer inspiration to Uptown Funk than Prince (or at least parts of the instrumentation). But these conversations are generally hard unless everyone's familiar with all the artists at the same level.

...for me Chic were disco (and I mean that as a complement, not an insult), mixing JB influenced guitar with strings.... for me Sexy MF is all about the horns (I can't think of any horn heavy Chic tracks?), hence why I'd say JB was the influence (rather than JB via Chic)....

[Edited 2/4/15 10:12am]

hw3004 said:

lezama said:

JB, as the real father of funk music, can be said (in some sense or at some level) to be the inspiration of anything in the genre afterwards right? I think Bart's point is that there are bands/musicians who's unique take on funk may be a closer inspiration to the song in question. Chic may be a truer inspiration to Sexy MF than James and perhaps Zapp and Rodgers a closer inspiration to Uptown Funk than Prince (or at least parts of the instrumentation). But these conversations are generally hard unless everyone's familiar with all the artists at the same level.

...for me Chic were disco (and I mean that as a complement, not an insult), mixing JB influenced guitar with strings....so for Sexy MF is all about the horns (I can't think of any horn heavy Chic tracks?), hence why I'd say JB was the influence (rather than JB via Chic)....

Yeah I definitely see what you're saying, they dont have any horn heavy songs that I know of. They were essentially disco, funk, r&b. I personally hear more Tower of Power influence in SMF.

fantasticjoy said:

Prince should just keep doing what he's doing and never try to do what Bruno Mars is doing. I'm not feeling Bruno Mars at all.

To take your point further, Prince did decades ago what Bruno is doing now but Prince did it 10x's better.

Uptown Funk was definitely inspired by what Prince and The Time did back in the day.

andingo said:

dbpdexter said:

If Prince put out uptown funk no one would pay attention to it. It's not that people think the song is good i'ts about who's singing it and Bruno Mars is the hot artist right now. If Bruno Mars put out AOA with his vocals instead of Prince it would have been album of the year. Nowindays people don't buy music because it's good they buy music that is the latest fashion and hot artist at the time.

Well this isn't true at all - that song is sensational and smacks of pure old school Prince. It's way over played now (already). I'm sure Prince could of course write such catchy fun songs again, if he wanted to.

V10LETBLUES said:

It's still about the music. If Prince or George, as well as Justin Beiber or Taylor Swift released Atomic Dog today, it would still be a hit. If not bigger as this sound is mainstream now. There is no way you could keep it from blowing up. (as produced)

Sure sex sells, name recognition helps, promotion helps, ...it gets you a short cut to the fron lines, but if the work is not there, then it flounders. How many beautiful men and women have tried and failed to make it on looks alone? Even when you compete with the kiddies, ..there are so many vieing for that same spot, there is alwasy a filtering proccess. But media conglomnerates have less and less say in what people get to hear or see, they cannot dictate who we see or do mot see in the internet era.

Sure eventally every possible system gets currupted, hacked, gamed no matter how hard me make it not to be, but such is life.

[Edited 2/3/15 14:00pm]

There are hundreds of artists who cover classic hits and get nowhere, so your assumption that good songwriting always translates in a hit is laughable. It's absolutely not a sure thing that Bieber or Swift would get a hit out of Atomic Dog.

Aerogram said:

V10LETBLUES said:

Aerogram said:

There are hundreds of artists who cover classic hits and get nowhere, so your assumption that good songwriting always translates in a hit is laughable. It's absolutely not a sure thing that Bieber or Swift would get a hit out of Atomic Dog.

I didn't say a cover, but the first artist to release that exact song as produced..

Violet, this is pure fairy land speculative daydreaming from your part, and besides these folks get hits of medicore songs all the time, so your point is moot and purely argumentative.

Admit it,you secretly listen to FunkNRoll all the time, especially the AOA version.

Aerogram said:

Sure, Prince could do Uptown Funk if he wanted to but he has already done that. When he was Bruno Mars' age he had already released albums such as Dirty Mind, Purple Rain, Parade, SOTT, etc. What has Bruno Mars released that has been as impactful as even one of those albums? I'd like to see Bruno ATTEMPT. He couldn't. Anyway Bruno is getting too much praise for that song. Mark Ronson created that song. Bruno just does vocals. Back when Prince was that age, he had already been doing songs like that for his albums and for other peoples albums. Prince has done the radio pop funk thing in the 80's. The 80's are gone. Its a new era today. When Bruno stops copying off of other artists of the good ole days and releases an album as impactful as Purple Rain or such, then you can talk to me. Otherwise, Prince is still more accomplished. If it wasn't for Princes influence Uptown Funk would have never been created as a song. So puhleeze....can we stop with this Prince vs. Bruno Mars crap?

EyeHatechu said:

Prince come to your house and fuck u and u STILL wouldnt be happy...

luvsexy4all said:

luvsexy4all said:

Prince come to your house and fuck u and u STILL wouldnt be happy...

well he can come over i guess but he gonna have to take no for an answer. (and he is packing: saw him close up in Arazon in 97 and dang....)