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That's great for LA, but I've yet to hear it once on the East coast. I listen radio everyday. You are stating what you believe is a fact which is fine. I'll 'own/believe' it if/when it happens. . They are not facts, no matter how many times you repeat yourself. . If you weren't so snarky & matter of fact you wouldn't be so annoying. You & rodserling are the same thing except on opposite ends of the spectrum, you guys are MFEO. | |
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has another hit on his hands.. OWN TIT! BELIEVE IT!
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First and foremost, this charts is not at all sales-based, but on airplay. The sales are abyssal because yesterday it was not even on the top 2500 of amazon. Secondly, this is not even the national rnb charts, which would be cool for prince, but the rnb adult charts:-o Last but not least, in the weekly UAC charts from last week, the song was down to 3 or 4 places. So "man, you are all so blindly positive. Do some research". |
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On Billboards weekly Adult R&B charts it is at #19 this week, up 2 places...
http://charts.bdsradio.com/bdsradiocharts/charts.aspx?formatid=12
The new song is still in the airplay Top 20 and gets more than 350 spins every day... His new music is getting played and apparently some people like the song...maybe some new fans will check out his music or makes them want to see him live... And it is not about loosing or whinning in a category as someone here stated... We all know that TCBU is not gonna be a big hit in the US, but it is a great r&b song, imo... Classic Prince... |
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It's most definitely about those things. They don't make the records for shits and giggles. It's about making money. Prince is spending money to try to revive AOA in an effort to save face, but the writing is on the wall. More was expected for him and that's why WB heavily promoted it. If Prince makes an R&B album, it automaticaly should dominate the R&B chart. The fact that his singles are struggling to crack the Top20 shows just how bad they really are. I have NEVER heard an AOA track in the real world outside of the few times I played them. Yet I hear songs by most every other act on that chart on a regular basis. | |
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Seriously...the song maybe climbing thanks to payola, the truth is that AOA is not even on the top 50 of the rnb charts, and not on the 2500 most downloaded songs on amazon. 100 % flop. In fact, AOA started to go on the bottom of the rnb charts soon after the grammy and the lauch of TCBU, which is illogical I know, but maybe the more the people are listening to TCBU, the less they want to buy an album containing such a piece of crap. |
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Right.....and so you joined a Prince fan site for what reason then? Are you in here just to vent and throw down on how much you think your boy "sucks" these days? | |
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V10LETBLUES word.....and I thought you were the negative one....this guy takes the cake. He's moved into my "no read" zone.....I just skip his posts......a real downer....if I want that I can just turn on the news....or watch FOX "news" and "talk" shows. [Edited 3/13/15 1:46am] | |
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Take some pinches of humour, please. I joined a Prince site fan because I love Prince's music (thankfully AOA and PLEC are not his only albums). I'm not in a negative mood, just in a realistic mood. I'd be glad if AOA were a huge success, even if I don't like it, cause it's Prince and it's a shame it's music is being not listened to anymore. Even the fans are not buying his albums anymore. He could have had some sort of public recognition with the PR rerelease.
I respect every decisions he made, frankly it's his business, but I've got the right to analyse the situation. Nothing that is debated here is really important.
Take a look at the other topics...Only boring things. There is even a topic where someone ask "if somebody here never saw Prince live", and 3/4 of the answers are " I saw him 3.5 times live". I remember a topic weeks ago where a guy asked (I'm not joking) "how to listen to EMANCIPATION" ? Why not beginning with your ears ?!
I'm pretty sure most on the org doesn't see the potential laugh behind that. Some here tried to do topics with second degree humour, and were immediately attacked because many are on a first-degree daily basis. They are the true negative people. Not a poor guy who is just analysing charts and the case of PR 30 with honesty.
There are numerous topics about a song...What's the point in knowing that I dislike AOCage and that a guy I don't know likes this song so much ? to Each his tastes. I personnally like many albums of Prince that most on the org dislikes. But that's my business, not yours or of anyone here.
Like I SAID it would be cool if TBCU were a success. Personnally I think it's maybe the worst choice of singles from AOA, but it wouldn't be the first time when a crap is doing well on charts. Sadly, not the case here. [Edited 3/13/15 2:46am] |
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It's funny to see you reject my posts because of so-called "negativity", but in the same time you are to mind-blinded to see that the post of RESPECTYOURPRIVCACY (a guy who insulted me many times, with all impunity) is full of wrong facts. He doesn't even know that we are talking about since 9 pages of airplay, and not sales...I said it's funny, because I'm not someone who is crying in front of ignorance, arrogance and insults. It's utterly crazy to have to justify myself each time prince makes a commercial mistake or that his new single doesn't work...I'm not inventing the billboard charts. If I could, Prince would be #1 every week in each of the 55 sub-categories of the BB. How funny it would be. [Edited 3/13/15 2:55am] [Edited 3/13/15 2:56am] |
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Frankly, you talk about psychologic help and you really need one to say seriously, without any pinch of humour : "its a great song by an amazing artist. You WANT the man to fail and he NEVER will." Please, tell me you are joking ! It's crazy, its sounds like a man from a sect. I said the song would tank after the grammy. Well, it climbed a sub-chart that nobody cares about, and AOA stayed at the bottom of the rnb charts, and the more the song is climbing, the less AOA is selling. Great results. Everything you stated was facts ? You didn't even know UAC charts are solely based on airplay you thought it was on sales We just entered the twilight Zone ! |
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You forgot that Prince didn't care about this song. So it can't stay that longer. I'm realistic (and not negative) about the format because it's obvious the airplay of TCBU doesn't increase the AOA's sales. I really wish it could. TCBU could be #1 on this charts if he were doing classical promotion, but he won't. |
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RODSERLING....Well thanks for the long response. You're not funny, so why would I need a pinch of humor? You are exceedingly negative and very down on Prince and too self-centered to even understand that people will misconstrue your "realism" or "analysis" as constant finger-nail on chalkboard complaint. You have the right to your "analysis" but you don't have the right to "crap on everyone's Prince buzz" without PUSHBACK because most of us dig his new direction and energy. Sorry you're not on board, but AoA is very good and PlectElect is a miracle and something he absolutely has not done....a mostly rock album (Chaos & Disorder was unfocused & Lotus Flow3r is awesome but really close to jazz-rock fusion). So if you rattle the beehive just because you don't like the honey, well expect to get stung. This is what Prince is doing now.....catch up and get it together. And smile....the man is 56 and not resting on his laurels...real fans should feel proud. [Edited 3/13/15 6:18am] | |
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Very well said mrgone777 in the above ^ post. RODSERling, let me address this to you now. I get where you are coming from. You are a fan of Prince's music, just not his recent stuff. And you find his moves baffling and are constantly disappointed by him. I get all that. But here's my deal with you. You just keep repeating yourself over and over again. You make the same point all the time. Surely even you get tired of your negative lack of humor posts, dont you? You do know that most of Prince's music is about love and positivity and spiritual growth, all in the name of being funky. But instead of uniting you divide this place. If you can't realize yourself that bring hardly anything to the discussion that is new and interesting you need to re read your posts. I like variety in a site like this. But please we get your position. No need to keep saying the same thing. It's tired already | |
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I already made it clear that it shouldn't be interesting to debate about other tastes...Hey, I bought these two pieces of craps, contrary to many here who chose to make this albums terrible flop. So don't go against me brother. PLEC a miracle Something he has absolutely not done ? It's just a collaboration album, it's not an evolution but a devolution, and surely not a revolution. Some of the songs are not rock at all on this album : the horribles STOP THIS TRAIN, BOY TROUBLE, TIC TAC TOE and FUNK N ROLL. The best song, ANOTHER LOVE, is a cover... AOA and PLEC doesn't sound "prince" to me and it's not amazing because he confessed himself that is not playing at all on some songs of AOA, and we know some songs on PLEC were from the girls. And I don't care about these girls,when they sing or play. I just want Prince, and that's my business. I admire and respect the fact he is still releasing new songs and that he still sounds fresh and new on AOA though. He still has an amazing voice and a distinctive groove. I really wish these would have make a big impact. But it's not, and it's not my fault. I make listen to these 2 albums to the most people I can. What you call "negative" is just to tell that prince made the worst commercial choices possible ? Well, it's his business, not yours, not mine. It's not negative, just the reality. if you like STOP THIS TRAIN, that's cool. Really not something that I want to talk about, and everybody's got the right to love or hate any piece of entertainment. |
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...You could say that of PURPLE RAIN, ok, but for PLEC, you go too far, don't you think ?
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Co sign! Rodserling is the first one here that really gets on my nerves. Even bart, who is negative in some sort of way, at least knows what he is talking about and has a point. But Rodserling you just keep repeating yourself on and on and instead of telling your opinion you try to state things as facts without sources and just wanna persuade the whole p.org members that "nobody" bought the new albums, which is simply not true...
And i am not saying the albums were a mega hit or Prince couldn`t do better...we all know Prince by now... But really....We got your point now...it`s enough!!
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I'm sorry man I can not get into your posts and not because we disagree. You seem to want all of us to see things from your myopic, ill-informed and inarticulate vantage point. When you get pushback you make the same points louder, and louder and louder...like a spoiled child. The more you write the more juvenile you sound. To that point, make your point once....the rest is trying to ram your personal opinions down everyone's throat even when revealed to be pointless and only revelatory of some deeply personal issue with Prince. Like what you like....say what you don't like.....but don't say it 10,000 times....it becomes clownish. Speaking of clowns....lighten up a bit...part of the beauty of PlecElec is that songs like BoyTrouble and Pretzelbodylogic are "diddies" they are supposed to be fun, catchy etc. Smile a bit, LISTEN to the music......be proud you are a Prince fan and that you've matured enough to let that man show his maturity and growth as an artist. [Edited 3/15/15 3:42am] | |
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And you find his moves baffling and are constantly disappointed by him. I get all that.
I'm sorry, you didn't get it at all. You're sayin pure crap, just like you were in my mind.
You just keep repeating yourself over and over again Considering that most of the time I'm only talking about charts, and that Prince is rather low on this nowadays, yes I'm talking the same thing. T'm not gonna say the contrary to what the situation really is. And you can't blame on me to answer other's attacks, or grief. You're gonna say i'm repeating again, but I'm just answering to your post, full of hate and negativity, and above all, of lack of humour. So, don't talk to me about Prince's music positivity when you are all bashing one guy, that loves Prince's music and his accomplishments. You don't even realize how ridiculous your attacks are. |
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Please, make your point and tell me just ONE thing I said that was wrong. Or shut up forever with all your hate against me. I don't like to talk like that but in front of such hate, I think I can do it anyway. When I say that "nobody" bought the albums, well EVERYBODY KNOWS PLEC sold about 80 k worldwide which is terrible. It stays only 3 weeks in the BB 200, so yes "nobody" bought it. Even usual fans didn't buy it. There was a topic about it. AOA sold 200 k worldwide. It's not even on the 300 best selling albums of 2014, it's insane. TBCU is climbing "the charts" (a sub chart, it's not an insult, it has nothing to do with racism like some used to say, which is utterly crazy) but in the same time AOA is outting of the rnb charts. So yes, it's pretty fair to say (and it's in the same time funny) that the more the people are hearing TBCU, the less they want to buy AOA. [Edited 3/17/15 9:20am] |
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RODSERLING, I think you got me all wrong. I am not bashing you or attacking you. All I am trying to say is that you have a tendency to keep repeating yourself. I think your point is that your defending your position to the multitude of people on this site who are supposedly "attacking" you. Why do you think that is? You think all of these people are allergic to charts and the truth as you see it? No, that's not the case. Posters on this site often post things relating to charts and they see the good in them but you always see the bad in them. I was just trying to help you find some peace here. I love prince.org. It's got a wide variety of people here. You definitely make things interesting. I just don't think in a good way. | |
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Like what you like....say what you don't like.....but don't say it 10,000 times....it becomes clownish
What is cloonish is to open numerous topic about one song and debate to know how many people likes this song. As if it's gonna change the mind of anybody, or if it mattered. I totally conceive it, but I let that to other who wants to waste their time about it. I prefer to talk about facts, like charts. And if you don't care about charts, so let me waste my time about it. Don't bother. I really love the fact Prince is doing absolutely nothing for what is expecting to do, commercially. I love him that way. Its his humour, I love that. You have nothing to explain me about his maturity. Again, don't you think it's funny to talk about maturity for an artist who sings (oh, sorry, he didn't even bother to sing) stg like BOYTROUBLE ? You don't ceize the contradiction, and that's make it funny. I don't buy a prince album to hear one of his chick make the lead. That's my problem. It's also funny you want to make me "smile" when listening to BOYTROUBLE, why is it so important to you ? Does it interest you that I'm fond of PRETZEL...? |
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Oh god, no! it's too much depressing to see positivity in the fact that PLEC spent 3 weeks on BB 200 and that TBCU has no impact on AOA's charts. I prefer honesty. I can't lie I'm sorry, like the guy (RESPECTYOURPRIVACY) who said the UAC charts were based on sales. I would be overtly positive if it was a success. I really hope this could be a success, not that it will change the face of the earth, but anyway. The AOA's cover was already a big finger to the general audience or to the fans, and I think it's funny that he doesn't even bother to give WB a proper cover for TCBU. It tells a lot about the situation |
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