artist76 said:

Just wondering if there are any Jews who are big Prince fans and particularly what's your take on his music lyrically over the years - I mean the religious themes more than the sexual themes, though they cam be intertwined in his music.

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PolkaDots said:

artist76 said:

PolkaDots said:

HI, Here I am

Ask questions one by one.

This may be more of a general one than a Prince specific one, but what do you think about the Christian references, particularly the messiah, and the increasing Christian fundamentalism over the years - some org'ers even from a Christian culture (though not religious) are turned off by it. I've been learning a bit about Judaism in the last couple of years, and I understand there's a belief in a dual covenant, and that Judaism does not have the same mission of converting all people, that spirituality and non-Jew covenants can be fulfilled admirably by non-Jews. Would Prince fall in the category of a "good" non-Jew? Also, most popular pop/rock/funk/R&B acts have no religious/Christian messages- I don't imagine you listen to "Christian Rock" or gospel, etc., so how you feel about listening to Prince? I guess it doesn't bother you, but just wondering what you think or feel when listening to songs with Christian-bent lyrics. Thanks.

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Why shouldn't I do Gospel ?

Sex is part of life.

Non jews laws are :

- http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ws_of_Noah

PolkaDots said:

Sex is part of life.

Non jews laws are :

- http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ws_of_Noah

And Prince has been leading my spiritual life all way long. To me he is a prophet

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I am, and the mix of sexuality and spirituality doesn't bother me. That's a huge part of Judaism. Sex is really only a taboo topic (when mixed with religion) in Islam and some forms of Christianity.

The increasing fundamentalism (and JW religion) doesn't really bother me - each to his own. The only time I was bothered by Prince lyrics was in songs like Family Name when there was equivalence between Jews and the slave trade or record company 'Masters'. When you listen to the lyrics, he's not really singling out Jews, but they could be misinterpreted.

Astasheiks said:

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What do u mean ?

he lost them when he penned this brilliant lyric:

"Holocaust aside, many lived and died
But when all truth is told
Would u rather b dead or b sold?"

Alan and Eric Leeds are jews. Doctor Fink is a jew. Jesus was a jew.

Lust is, he is the one with the Jewish Flag as his avatar. Proud of it too. I am not though, but are pro Jewish and pro Israel.

Adorecream said:

Lust is, he is the one with the Jewish Flag as his avatar. Proud of it too. I am not though, but are pro Jewish and pro Israel.

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Ai'nt you mixing it all ?

AdoreCream, Who are you talking about ?

2freaky4church1 said:

jdcxc said:

All true

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Wendy Melvoin (Real name Melwohm)

Lisa Coleman (changed from Goldman a few generations ago)

Bobby Z - (Robert Rivkin, also brother David Isaac Rivkin, called Butzie by his grandmother).

Matt Fink (Real name Matthew Finkelstein)

Tommy Barbarella (Real name Tommy Elm)

Minneapolis has a very large and established Jewish community, both Liberal, Reformed and Orthodox.

I also suspect that the late Clare Fischer was Jewish although this not confirmed as the name Fisher/Fischer seems to be both Christian and Jewish. Mostly Jewish as I think of the singer Eddie Fisher and Jeff Fischer off American Dad.

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Then the Execs, Walter Yetnikoff, Mo Ostin, Lenny Waronker, Jeff Gold, Clive Davis, Owen Husney - yep all are Jewish. You can pretty much thank the vision and support of the Jewish people for Prince even having a career. So called Christian companies like RSO and A and M turned Prince down flat.

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Never had a problem with his lyrics.
I respect his beliefs and follow the "To each his own" rule when it comes to music.
If thats what drives him to write and compose these days, It's fine with me.
I don't see him becoming a christian-rock-pop act any time soon.

And coming from Israel , I can asure you that the religeous\sex lyrics are a non-issue by most modern liberal jewish music lovers.

I can't recall any time a Prince song was banned from radio air play or anything like that over here.

"Sexy MF" , "Cream" , "Kiss" and obviously "Purple rain" are probably his biggest radio hits on Israeli radio stations along the years.

As he became a JW a while back, I expected him to visit Jerusalem by now

It could be a great city for him to play at.

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PolkaDots said:

iZsaZsa said:

lust said:

iZsaZsa said:

lust said:

Agh. That will explain why Jews have always performed so poorly academically and in the sciences particularly!

I meant to say "he".

dgil72 said:

Never had a problem with his lyrics.
I respect his beliefs and follow the "To each his own" rule when it comes to music.
If thats what drives him to write and compose these days, It's fine with me.
I don't see him becoming a christian-rock-pop act any time soon.

And coming from Israel , I can asure you that the religeous\sex lyrics are a non-issue by most modern liberal jewish music lovers.

I can't recall any time a Prince song was banned from radio air play or anything like that over here.

"Sexy MF" , "Cream" , "Kiss" and obviously "Purple rain" are probably his biggest radio hits on Israeli radio stations along the years.

As he became a JW a while back, I expected him to visit Jerusalem by now

It could be a great city for him to play at.

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Love it, I can see Prince playing on the Temple Mount, or at least ina prominent spot with purple searchlights radiating through the air.

Adorecream said:

dgil72 said:

Never had a problem with his lyrics.
I respect his beliefs and follow the "To each his own" rule when it comes to music.
If thats what drives him to write and compose these days, It's fine with me.
I don't see him becoming a christian-rock-pop act any time soon.

And coming from Israel , I can asure you that the religious\sex lyrics are a non-issue by most modern liberal jewish music lovers.

I can't recall any time a Prince song was banned from radio air play or anything like that over here.

"Sexy MF" , "Cream" , "Kiss" and obviously "Purple rain" are probably his biggest radio hits on Israeli radio stations along the years.

As he became a JW a while back, I expected him to visit Jerusalem by now

It could be a great city for him to play at.

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Love it, I can see Prince playing on the Temple Mount, or at least ina prominent spot with purple searchlights radiating through the air.

Well he can try playing on the Temple Mount and start a global religious war

That won't happen. But there is a nice venue close by , Just along the old city walls, called "Sultan's Pool" which can be a good choice.

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Smoked salmon and coffee.

Tefillin, Kippa, Pimp and Circumcision.

When Davens Cry.

dgil72 said:

Adorecream said:

Love it, I can see Prince playing on the Temple Mount, or at least ina prominent spot with purple searchlights radiating through the air.

Well he can try playing on the Temple Mount and start a global religious war

That won't happen. But there is a nice venue close by , Just along the old city walls, called "Sultan's Pool" which can be a good choice.

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Nice venue; I barely go to Jerusalem tho. See Prince there would be nice, and much cheaper than go to paisley Park

iZsaZsa said:

PolkaDots said:

What do u mean ?

How high they can count.

7, the Prince song;
"And we will see a plague and a river of blood"

Euphrates river/Revelation

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What a strange thread, and the discussion seems to go nowhere.

You don't have to be a religious nut to hate Prince, some atheists hate Prince too. Perry Farrell (Jane's Addiction) is a practicing jew, and I bet he adores Prince. See how pointless is this going?

nuttynutmeg said: