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What if Prince had died in 89 Im sure i'll get someone cursing me for even suggesting this, but imagine a senario where Prince had died in 1989.
He would have died just after his peak, he would have done the lovesexy tour which ever says was great and he wouldnt have started the NPG. He would be so more revered nowadays i think. Partly because that's what heppens when a great artist dies in their prime, but also because he wouldnt have had the chance to pee all over his career in the 90s. Im not saying i want this to happen. I'm looking forward to seeing Prince play England, as i've never seen him live. But what, musically speaking, would we really miss? yeah there'd be no rainbow children which would be a great shame. But the best songs to be released in the 90s were from crystal ball, the good ones of which were from the 80s. Also we'd probably have a remastered Warner backcatalog and there'd be more rare Prince songs circulating... this isn't mean to cause offense, it's just a thought. _________________________________________
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and we would miss TRC and tons of beautiful songs ... | |
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If Prince had died in 89, he would be known to every school child today as the Elvis of the 80ies. The God of Funk/Rock. "How embarrasing to be human!"
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Sad, but true.
On a side note... You know WB wanted to put out a 'best of' album in '89 but Prince wouldn't let 'em, cuz he reckoned 'best of's were for dead people, and he wasn't dead yet. [This message was edited Sun Mar 23 12:27:58 PST 2003 by BorisFishpaw] | |
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Let's have a look at two examples.
On the one hand, you have Bob Marley. The guy wouldn't be half as famous if he was still alive. Hell, reggae wouldn't be half as popular. On the other hand, you have James Brown. Now I'm sorry to say what I'm about to say, but he should have died a long time ago. He would be a true legend. But today, people see an old guy who's desperately trying to be what he once was. And I'm afraid this is what's gonna happen to Prince in 20 years. "How embarrasing to be human!"
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Xpertlover said: On the other hand, you have James Brown. Now I'm sorry to say what I'm about to say,
Very much so. but he should have died a long time ago. He would be a true legend. But today, people see an old guy who's desperately trying to be what he once was.
Sure, extremely ignorant people. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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That would have sucked,if that would have happened.Glad prince is still around,and well prince | |
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Well that embarassing symbol mess woulda never happened ~KiKi | |
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BorisFishpaw said: On a side note... You know WB wanted to put out a 'best of' album in '89 but Prince wouldn't let 'em, cuz he reckoned 'best of's were for dead people, and he wasn't dead yet. So I guess he was dead 4 years later; with the whole hits/b-sides boxset? ~KiKi | |
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The vault would have been emptied periodically, and Prince would be more relevant in death than he is in life. | |
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This crap is everything that's wrong with the Org.
Next we'll be reading 'What if Prince had fallen in the shower during the Crystal Ball sessions, woken up in Hospital convinced he was Ltn Columbo, would he still release it as a double SOTT or begin solving murder cases in a brown Mac? | |
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allanb said: This crap is everything that's wrong with the Org.
Next we'll be reading 'What if Prince had fallen in the shower during the Crystal Ball sessions, woken up in Hospital convinced he was Ltn Columbo, would he still release it as a double SOTT or begin solving murder cases in a brown Mac? Hey, news is slow going in the Prince camp. People are just trying to keep occupied. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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Sure he would have been more popular to the masses, but for the fans like us, our lives would be missing something.
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minneapolisgenius said: Hey, news is slow going in the Prince camp. People are just trying to keep occupied.
fair enough, but why must we read all this 'what if Prince had died' or 'Prince's baby' sado fan bullshit. He's alive, making music, just finished his best tour since 88' that's alot of positives, so let's lose all the negative 'what if's'. | |
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allanb said: minneapolisgenius said: Hey, news is slow going in the Prince camp. People are just trying to keep occupied.
fair enough, but why must we read all this 'what if Prince had died' or 'Prince's baby' sado fan bullshit. He's alive, making music, just finished his best tour since 88' that's alot of positives, so let's lose all the negative 'what if's'. I never start these threads. I just make mean comments about everyone else who replies in earnest to them seriously. I did actually start one thread today, but it sunk like the Titanic. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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allanb said: minneapolisgenius said: Hey, news is slow going in the Prince camp. People are just trying to keep occupied.
fair enough, but why must we read all this 'what if Prince had died' or 'Prince's baby' sado fan bullshit. He's alive, making music, just finished his best tour since 88' that's alot of positives, so let's lose all the negative 'what if's'. well if we can't talk about rubbish, what can we talk about? _________________________________________
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It's a fact: people aren't truly appreciated until they're gone. I liked how Sinbad introduced Prince on the Vibe show a few years back when he said something along the lines of "You better appreciate him now because when people like him are gone, there's never gonna be another one like him again". | |
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estidog said: allanb said: minneapolisgenius said: Hey, news is slow going in the Prince camp. People are just trying to keep occupied.
fair enough, but why must we read all this 'what if Prince had died' or 'Prince's baby' sado fan bullshit. He's alive, making music, just finished his best tour since 88' that's alot of positives, so let's lose all the negative 'what if's'. well if we can't talk about rubbish, what can we talk about? "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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If he'd died in 89 we would've had to do without all of
these. 18 & Over 2045: Radical Man 2Morrow 3 Chains O' Gold 7. A Case Of U Acknowledge Me Allegiance An Honest Man And God Created Woman Arboretum Arrogance At Last…"The Lost Is Found" Avalanche Barcelona Batdance Betcha By Golly Wow Big Fun Blue Light Breathe Calhoun Square Chaos & Disorder Cherry, Cherry Cloreen Baconskin Coincidence Or Fate? Come Come On Copenhagen Count The Days Courtin' Time Cream Crucial Crystal Ball Curious Child Cutz Cybersingle Da Bang Da, Da, Da Daddy Pop Damn U Damned If Eye Do Dark Days Of Wild: Free The Slave [Live] Diamonds & Pearls Dig U Better Dead Dinner With Delores Don't Talk 2 Strangers Dream Factory Dreamin' About U Electric Chair Emale Emancipation Empty Room Eye Can't Make U Love Me Eye Like Funky Music Eye Wanna Melt With U Face Down Freaks On This Side Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife Gamillah Get Wild Get Yo Groove On Gett Off Girl 6 Golden Paracute Good Love Goodbye Habibi Had U Hallucination Rain Have A Heart Here On Earth Hide The Bone High Howevermuch U Want HypnoParadise I Like It There I Rock, Therefore I Am I Will In This Bed Eye Scream Insatiable Interactive Into The Light Jam Of The Year Joint 2 Joint Judas Smile Jughead Jukebox with a Heartbeat Kamasutra Kamasutra/Eternal Embrace Kamasutra/Overture #8 La, La, La, Means Eye Love U Last Heart Lemme See Yo Body [Get Loose!] Lemon Crush Letitgo Let's Have A Baby Live 4 Love Loose! Love 2 The 9's Lovesign LoveSong Mad Mad Sex Madrid 2 Chicago Make Yo Mama Happy Mashed Potato Girl [skit] Money Don't Matter 2Nite Moviestar MPLS Mr. Happy My Computer My Medallion My Name Is Prince Nagoya New Power Day [skit] New Power Soul New Power Soul New World Northside Objects In The Mirror One Kiss At A Time One Nite Alone One Of Us One Song Orgasm Osaka Papa Party Man Peace Pearls B4 The Swine Pheromone Poom Poom Promise/Broken Props N Poundz Push Push It Up Race Right Back Here In My Arms Right The Wrong Ripopgodazippa S&M Groove Same December Saviour Scandalous Serotonin Sex In The Summer Sex Me Sex Me Not Sexual Suicide Sexy M.F. She Gave Her Angels Shoo-Be-Dooh Silicon Slave Sleep Around So Dark Solo Somebody's Somebody Soul Sanctuary Space Strays Of The World Strollin' Style Supercute Sweet Baby Tell Me How U Wanna B Done The Arms Of Orion The Continental The Daisy Chain The Ever Changing Light The Exodus Has Begun The Flow The Funky Design The Future The Holy River The Human Body The Love We Make The Max The Morning Papers The One The Plan The Return Of The Bump Squad The Ride The Sacrifice Of Victor The War Thunder Tokyo Trust U Make My Sun Shine Underneath The Cream Until Ur In My Arms Again U're Gonna C Me Van Gogh Vavoom Vicky Waiting Walk Don't Walk Wasted Kisses We Gets Up What's My Name? When I Lay My Hands On U When U Love Somebody When Will We B Paid White Mansion Willing And Able Xenophobia Y Should I Do That When I Can Do This Young And Beautiful Zannalee So what if he lived past his "peak". I say let the man live another 45 years and let's see what more he can crank out. Even if there's some tosh in there there is also a lot of cool stuff. and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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I don't think it works like that. James Dean and Marilyn Monroe became legends as the public know they would have gone to greater things. But people like Jayne Mansfield and Montgomery clift don't become legends as the public instinctively know they're all washed up.
If Prince had died in '89, his career would have gone on a similar path as if he had lived. It would have stayed constant throughout the early '90s. Then around '94 there would have been a 'comeback' of sorts (and a few jokes at the same time) and then he would have gone into obscurity. Then hopefully around 2005, there will be a huge re-appraisal. ******************************************** | |
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XtrueX said: It's a fact: people aren't truly appreciated until they're gone. I liked how Sinbad introduced Prince on the Vibe show a few years back when he said something along the lines of "You better appreciate him now because when people like him are gone, there's never gonna be another one like him again".
I think XtrueX said it best. Prince will still get his due, but it is a fact - people just aren't appreciated until they're gone, and Prince will be recognized as one of the greatest singer/songwriter/guitar players that ever lived... | |
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IstenSzek said: If he'd died in 89 we would've had to do without all of
these. 18 & Over 2045: Radical Man 2Morrow 3 Chains O' Gold 7. A Case Of U Acknowledge Me Allegiance An Honest Man And God Created Woman Arboretum Arrogance At Last…"The Lost Is Found" Avalanche Barcelona Batdance Betcha By Golly Wow Big Fun Blue Light Breathe Calhoun Square Chaos & Disorder Cherry, Cherry Cloreen Baconskin Coincidence Or Fate? Come Come On Copenhagen Count The Days Courtin' Time Cream Crucial Crystal Ball Curious Child Cutz Cybersingle Da Bang Da, Da, Da Daddy Pop Damn U Damned If Eye Do Dark Days Of Wild: Free The Slave [Live] Diamonds & Pearls Dig U Better Dead Dinner With Delores Don't Talk 2 Strangers Dream Factory Dreamin' About U Electric Chair Emale Emancipation Empty Room Eye Can't Make U Love Me Eye Like Funky Music Eye Wanna Melt With U Face Down Freaks On This Side Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife Gamillah Get Wild Get Yo Groove On Gett Off Girl 6 Golden Paracute Good Love Goodbye Habibi Had U Hallucination Rain Have A Heart Here On Earth Hide The Bone High Howevermuch U Want HypnoParadise I Like It There I Rock, Therefore I Am I Will In This Bed Eye Scream Insatiable Interactive Into The Light Jam Of The Year Joint 2 Joint Judas Smile Jughead Jukebox with a Heartbeat Kamasutra Kamasutra/Eternal Embrace Kamasutra/Overture #8 La, La, La, Means Eye Love U Last Heart Lemme See Yo Body [Get Loose!] Lemon Crush Letitgo Let's Have A Baby Live 4 Love Loose! Love 2 The 9's Lovesign LoveSong Mad Mad Sex Madrid 2 Chicago Make Yo Mama Happy Mashed Potato Girl [skit] Money Don't Matter 2Nite Moviestar MPLS Mr. Happy My Computer My Medallion My Name Is Prince Nagoya New Power Day [skit] New Power Soul New Power Soul New World Northside Objects In The Mirror One Kiss At A Time One Nite Alone One Of Us One Song Orgasm Osaka Papa Party Man Peace Pearls B4 The Swine Pheromone Poom Poom Promise/Broken Props N Poundz Push Push It Up Race Right Back Here In My Arms Right The Wrong Ripopgodazippa S&M Groove Same December Saviour Scandalous Serotonin Sex In The Summer Sex Me Sex Me Not Sexual Suicide Sexy M.F. She Gave Her Angels Shoo-Be-Dooh Silicon Slave Sleep Around So Dark Solo Somebody's Somebody Soul Sanctuary Space Strays Of The World Strollin' Style Supercute Sweet Baby Tell Me How U Wanna B Done The Arms Of Orion The Continental The Daisy Chain The Ever Changing Light The Exodus Has Begun The Flow The Funky Design The Future The Holy River The Human Body The Love We Make The Max The Morning Papers The One The Plan The Return Of The Bump Squad The Ride The Sacrifice Of Victor The War Thunder Tokyo Trust U Make My Sun Shine Underneath The Cream Until Ur In My Arms Again U're Gonna C Me Van Gogh Vavoom Vicky Waiting Walk Don't Walk Wasted Kisses We Gets Up What's My Name? When I Lay My Hands On U When U Love Somebody When Will We B Paid White Mansion Willing And Able Xenophobia Y Should I Do That When I Can Do This Young And Beautiful Zannalee So what if he lived past his "peak". I say let the man live another 45 years and let's see what more he can crank out. Even if there's some tosh in there there is also a lot of cool stuff. i have one thing to say to you: get your facts right. take 'crystal ball' for example was done prior the 1989 and thus would still be there if he died. It wouldnt have come out on the crystall ball set like it has now, but i bet that there'd be alot more unreleased Prince songs and box sets etc out now if the man had died. Just look at jeff buckley. And apart from the stuff on crystall ball, the rainbow children and perhaps the song 'gett off' i could do without the rest, i really could. _________________________________________
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there wouldn't of been a prince.org | |
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Farfunknugin said: there wouldn't of been a prince.org
there would be 4 times as many prince.orgs I bet there's more sites about Kurt Cobain now than there were in 1994. _________________________________________
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lovebizzare said: BorisFishpaw said: On a side note... You know WB wanted to put out a 'best of' album in '89 but Prince wouldn't let 'em, cuz he reckoned 'best of's were for dead people, and he wasn't dead yet. So I guess he was dead 4 years later; with the whole hits/b-sides boxset? Actually, yes he was! Prince WAS dead, he was now , so it was OK to release a 'Prince' hits album, because as far as was concerned he wasn't 'Prince' anymore and wouldn't be playing any 'Prince' songs again. | |
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BorisFishpaw said: lovebizzare said: BorisFishpaw said: On a side note... You know WB wanted to put out a 'best of' album in '89 but Prince wouldn't let 'em, cuz he reckoned 'best of's were for dead people, and he wasn't dead yet. So I guess he was dead 4 years later; with the whole hits/b-sides boxset? Actually, yes he was! Prince WAS dead, he was now , so it was OK to release a 'Prince' hits album, because as far as was concerned he wasn't 'Prince' anymore and wouldn't be playing any 'Prince' songs again. thats actually a good point you've got there. refreshing to see that in this thread! _________________________________________
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Believe it or not there are some Folks that think He has Been Dead Since 89.true story back in 89 I was telling a Woman that I Went to His "Lovesexy" Concert in 88&She said to me He hasn't had a Hit in 4 Years.She also said to Me does He still make Music? this was in 89 Imagine what She would say now? mistermaxxx | |
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