funksterr said:

Adorecream said:

I am amazed how many like it. It is like what Captain said "11% of Prince fans pretty much love anything he does". Basically if Prince shit brix, they would run out and buy them!

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Okay so I struck out with my remarks about Spanish, I got it wrong, as on Musicology there is Spanish in before the man in yo life and I have heard it on other albums. It sounded similarly, loud voices, quick talking, syllables I could not recognise, ending in o and la. If it is Pig Latin, then I was close, as Spanish is a Romance language based from Latin like French, Italian, Romanian, Portuguese and Romansh (Swiss minority language).

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Still does not mean I like the song, it needs to be on a protege album, Plectrum Electrum to me is a Prince album with 3rd eye girl, rather than 3rd eye girl featuring prince. My guess is he wrote most of the music, played and it was recorded at Paisley Park. Okay Joshua produced, but its still 80% Prince.

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Boytrouble is bad Gwen Stefani mixed in with Jessica Simpson and Disney Pop. I mean the "Here come the boyz" sounds like 16 year old girls waiting for a group of Justin Bieber c.2011 lookalikes to come, and having names like Zach Chadwick, Chad Zachary.

More like 40 percent, I think. You can tell Prince wrote a lot of the lyrics, but I have doubts about who is playing most of the music.

If we're talking about Plectrumelectrum then I believe most of the music was recorded as a band. I'm sure Prince didn't write all of the lyrics, I refuse to believe he wrote Whitecaps, for example. Even if it's proven that he did write the Whitecaps lyrics I'm not going to let my brain remember it

This song does exactly what it's meant to do: upset old and grumpy men.

Ymaginatif said:

This song does exactly what it's meant to do: upset old and grumpy men.

maybe off topic:



but "Grumpy Old Men" was actually shot at Paisley Park (the movie) (thats afaik)...

On topic, crap song indeed, no matter how "old" you are...

Ymaginatif said:

This song does exactly what it's meant to do: upset old and grumpy men.

Grumoy, old and proud

SuperFurryAnimal said:

Ymaginatif said:

This song does exactly what it's meant to do: upset old and grumpy men.

I am 38, as for Pig Latin, never heard of it, I assumed it was some form of Latin, which I never learned as our school system stopped teaching it in 1967 and now you can only learn it at a few religious schools and university.

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So my bad. Unless I am a bear, a cat or a dog, 38 last time I looked is not even middle age let alone old. But yes the appeal of a song aimed at 13 to 17 year old girls with IQs between 65 and 90 is lost on me.

Don't think I would have cared for this track when I was 13-17...

purplethunder3121 said:

Don't think I would have cared for this track when I was 13-17...

Well, even though every generation and era has dumbed down songs...it just kinda stinks that Prince is pandering to get young listeners, even though from all accounts the average age of buyers of both of these albums is likely well above the obvious targeted age. I would assume that at least 80% of the buyers are over 35 and are not crazy about Auto-Tune, and young people trends. I could be wrong, but doubt that I am. And Boy Trouble is a bad song, so I'm glad you would have not cared for it when you were young.

KingSausage said:

You ever step on cat vomit while barefooted and feel the moist, pukey chunks squish up between your toes? I'd rather do that again than listen to BOYTROUBLE.

i did once... unfortunately i then slipped and landed face first in it... what's worse is i tried to catch my breath just as i landed, sucking most of the vomit down my throat... i believe what had caused the cat to vomit was it's last meal... a 3 week old rotten rat carcass... as the rat chunks made their way inside me, some of them got stuck, causing me to vomit, which mixed with the cat puke as most of it made it's way out my nose

i'd rather do that again than listen to BOYTROUBLE

At 13 to 14 I probably would have. I was listening to some very frothy and low quality pop music when I was 13 at least, like Kylie Minogue, Tiffany, Debbie Gibson, Roxette and Milli Vanilli.

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At 14 I grew balls and got into pop rap like Young MC, MC Hammer, Rebel MC, Redhead Kingpin and some better rap music like Ice T, Public Enemy and NWA.

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Finally at 15 I discovered Prince and ditched frothy pop and pap rap forever!!!

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Going back to music I liked when I was 11 - Whitney, Mel and Kim, Madonna, I would have liked Boytrouble more then.

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And you guys are right, most buyers of Prince music are likely to be 35 - 45, but spread across all groups from 14 to about 65, but still your average 40 year old will not care for Boytrouble but dig a song like This could be us, Clouds, Way back home, Another Love and Fixurlifeup - mature Prince music.

Adorecream said:

Moonbeam said:

Nothing wrong with pop! Kylie in particular is amazing. Her albums from 1997-2003 especially are incredible! Yeah, "BoyTrouble" may not be particularly mature, but I like a little playfulness from Princey. "This Could Be Us" doesn't sound really mature either - it kind of sounds like a sappy Disney 90s ballad at times.

Sure, it's all opinion...but "This Could Be Us" sounds like the most mature song ever written compared to Boy Trouble.

Look, I don't want Prince pulling a John Mellencamp or a Sting...both of those guys are trying so hard to sound mature it sounds like they have some contest going to see who can impress each other's dead Great Grandfathers...but pandering to kids when kids are not gonna buy your albums is weak.

I will say that Mellencamp is making some good music, but he refuses to rock anymore, just folk music. And Sting only has one new album of original new material since 2004, and it sounds like the damn Pirates of Penzance, although that play was written around 1880, and sounds more modern than Sting's Last Ship album.

Boy Trouble...fun track in a fun laden album. Shame that some continue to live in their little box...everything outside that box is "bad".

Anyone ever listened to arrival of the birds...?

It is nice. Just try it.

emesem said:

Nothing wrong with that song. It's a 3rdeyegirl song NOT a Prince song. Think of it like a Vanity 6 track. Jeez its kinda fun And no its not Spanish. Its literally gibberish.

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Exactly, lighten up!

mordang said:

Boy Trouble...fun track in a fun laden album. Shame that some continue to live in their little box...everything outside that box is "bad".

Anyone ever listened to arrival of the birds...?

It is nice. Just try it.

I like it fine, personally...This kind of generalization is getting so tiresome around here. Must we like absolutely everything? Are we allowed no discernment whatsoever reagarding our musical preferences?

jasminejoey said:

mordang said:

Boy Trouble...fun track in a fun laden album. Shame that some continue to live in their little box...everything outside that box is "bad".

Anyone ever listened to arrival of the birds...?

It is nice. Just try it.

I like it fine, personally...This kind of generalization is getting so tiresome around here. Must we like absolutely everything? Are we allowed no discernment whatsoever reagarding our musical preferences?

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While I agree with you, I think the point is that usually those on this cite who tend to dislike something--especially those who haven't liked anything since The Eighties--usually go beyond their own tastes and attack anyone who likes something that they dislike as having "bad" tastes or being "ass-kissers," i.e. "only those of y'all who lap up every little piece of bullshit that Prince craps out his ass would like this crap". So, yes, we should all be allowed "discernment regarding our musical preferences," but the people most guilty of not allowing for this are those who've spent the past ten, fifteen, twenty years trying to convince the rest of us that were are "wack," "idiots," or just "lacking good taste" for liking something that they do not like.

Boytrouble sounds like a fun girl's night out theme or something. I think it was intended to draw in younger listeners or something. I wouldn't call it the worst song since the 90s - I love almost all of his work. I really really like this cd. The only song I don't care for is the last song but I still will listen to it and I really like this cd alot. It reminds me of his Purple Rain work with the heavy guitar and the girls singing remind of the work he may have wanted to do with Wendy and Lisa had they remained.

Does Prince ever leave comments or chat on this website?

Askani said:

Purple & Gold? Resolution?

Purple & Gold is dreadful. Resolution, while admittedly cheesy and seemingly not a favorite around here, is my favorite track off of Planet Earth (granted, not saying much, but still).+

I assumed it was an actual live language game, like ubbi dubbi or the -izzle thing or pig latin (it's clearly not pig latin, though)--but I have a hard time following those even when they're done slowly, so I couldn't figure out the rules of this one. Chances are it's ridiculously simple, and just some part of the lyrics re-done. I checked Wikipedia just to see if I could find a possible variant--some seem insanely complicated. The weirdest thing though was this: Esperanto has a play form called Esperant.

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The song itself isn't interesting enough to be his worst song since the 90s--and I kind of get the idea that it's possible the song is less his than the rest of the album. While there's no credit for writing given to Lizzo or Sophia Eris--there's also no lyrics in the booklet, while lyrics are included for the other tracks. Instead, the song's page just says "Boytrouble Featuring Lizzo & Sopia Eris." I'm guessing it's quite possible quite a bit was up to the featured performers. I can't say with any great certainty, obviously--and I haven't heard Lizzo's other work yet--but it seems likely that not much besides the music is really P and 3EG. And the music's okay, in my opinion. Not great. But okay.

I dig this tune, nice showcase tune for the girls.

leadline said:

I dig this tune, nice showcase tune for the girls.

It actually showcases their limitations more than anything else - especially the horrible vocals

TheEnglishGent said:

Mindflux said:

I actually quite like the track. Great bass and the track is kinda fun. No problem with the rap and think the production tricks on her voice are cool. What I'm amazed at is people (except one on this thread, who has come close) not t getting what the "Spanish" voice is - do most of you really listen to the music, or do you just hear it? (There is a difference!). It is an edited voice, with words chopped up in various places and re-joined together so that it actually sounds like a familiar language but is actually just gibberish. Again, quite fun, fairly novel (but not without precedent) and fits with the track's light-hearted theme.

So you're saying you believe it's edited in production as opposed to being pig latin or some such? I assumed it was the play language because it's mostly a girly thing and would fit the song. I can also quite imagine Hannah speaking it when she was younger.

I wouldn't discount that it might be Pig - Latin , or some other play language - when you listen to the words it sounds like there is a pattern to where phrases are placed.

But, editing in production has definitely been used. At the very beginning and end of the track, where the vocal is most isolated, you can hear various click points where it sounds like an edit was made. Whether this was used to actually form the "word" itself, or was used to remove gaps between the words to speed up delivery is hard to say. But it sounds like there's some chopping going on to me.

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I like it, but I'd like it a whole lot more without the shitty rapping.

There are plenty of contenders for worst song since the 90s, and this doesn't even come close imo.

Adorecream said: