master said:

This is harsh . I do not feel eye are stopping the free releases.

Well... they did. The Free labels have stopped. And that was because of Eye.

zarao said:

Militant said:

7. My being a mod has nothing to do with this conversation. I'm not promoting anything - just acknowledging it's existence and looking to discuss it as a fan. 8. It's painfully obvious when certain orgers will take any opportunity to have a shot at a moderator. Every reasonable member of this board can see that. 9. What else ya got? How about we get back on topic now? 10. Anyone heard this boot yet?

All of this is well said, especially # 8.

I've heard nearly everything on it, but I have no idea if the sources are the same or not. Never heard of the Lady Cab Driver instrumental, but it's probably nothing special. If I get this I'll try to give my honest opinion on the quality of the sources, but I'm never first with anything, so I'm sure somebody else will review first. Disc 4? Really?

So I can only presume that perhaps someone sold on outtakes to Eye re this set. If they did, they would been paid sod all, relatively.

Revolution81 said:

zarao said:

Well... they did. The Free labels have stopped. And that was because of Eye.

So the free labels held back from releasing the stuff everybody wants and let Eye get their hands on it instead? Makes sense

The free labels got pissed off putting stuff out and then seeing the profit labels sell it a short while after.

Militant said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Militant said:

1. We have ALWAYS discussed boots here on the org. 2. I don't support purchasing of bootlegs. Trading, though... Who cares? 3. Fans of artists trade bootlegs. That's life. Prince does it too. Bobby Z talked about how Prince and Michael Jackson would trade Sly Stone boots with each other, and Prince himself last year mentioned having boots of Liana La Havas. 4. Prince HIMSELF sent unreleased songs to at least 2 others last year. You wondered where the pristine Adonis & Bathsheba came from? Hell - a great deal of songs got leaked in the first place because Prince would just hand out tapes to all sorts of people. Cosmic Day, Everybody Wants.... And Traffic Jam came from a Paisley Park tape for artists who might be interested in using one of his songs. 5. Prince asked fans to vote for their favorite bootlegs at the PP celebration so that he could compile a tracklist for CB2. 6. If you read this thread, I've been critical of Eye on more than one occasion. 7. My being a mod has nothing to do with this conversation. I'm not promoting anything - just acknowledging it's existence and looking to discuss it as a fan. 8. It's painfully obvious when certain orgers will take any opportunity to have a shot at a moderator. Every reasonable member of this board can see that. 9. What else ya got? How about we get back on topic now? 10. Anyone heard this boot yet?

Wait, he did? what's the story behind this, and what else did he send besides "Adonis and Bathsheba"? And how did these people convince him to send them anything at all?!

TheEnglishGent said:

Revolution81 said:

zarao said: So the free labels held back from releasing the stuff everybody wants and let Eye get their hands on it instead? Makes sense

The free labels got pissed off putting stuff out and then seeing the profit labels sell it a short while after.

Doesn't make sense to me either.

Pay label's trying to profit from free label's work is as enevitable as them trying to profit from Prince's work. That's what they do.

Real Prince fans that are into bootlegs know that FBG deserves more of our thanks than Eye.

djThunderfunk said:

TheEnglishGent said:

The free labels got pissed off putting stuff out and then seeing the profit labels sell it a short while after.

Doesn't make sense to me either.

Pay label's trying to profit from free label's work is as enevitable as them trying to profit from Prince's work. That's what they do.

Real Prince fans that are into bootlegs know that FBG deserves more of our thanks than Eye.

Absolutely, all props to FBG etc. It's a shame they stopped but they were daft to not realise that the profit labels would do what they did. Let's be happy that Prince didn't take the same course when people started bootlegging his works!

Militant said:

1. We have ALWAYS discussed boots here on the org.

2. I don't support purchasing of bootlegs. Trading, though... Who cares?

3. Fans of artists trade bootlegs. That's life. Prince does it too. Bobby Z talked about how Prince and Michael Jackson would trade Sly Stone boots with each other, and Prince himself last year mentioned having boots of Liana La Havas.

4. Prince HIMSELF sent unreleased songs to at least 2 others last year. You wondered where the pristine Adonis & Bathsheba came from? Hell - a great deal of songs got leaked in the first place because Prince would just hand out tapes to all sorts of people. Cosmic Day, Everybody Wants.... And Traffic Jam came from a Paisley Park tape for artists who might be interested in using one of his songs.

5. Prince asked fans to vote for fhtheir favorite bootlegs at the PP celebration so that he could compile a tracklist for CB2.

6. If you read this thread, I've been critical of Eye on more than one occasion.

7. My being a mod has nothing to do with this conversation. I'm not promoting anything - just acknowledging it's existence and looking to discuss it as a fan.

8. It's painfully obvious when certain orgers will take any opportunity to have a shot at a moderator. Every reasonable member of this board can see that.

9. What else ya got? How about we get back on topic now?

10. Anyone heard this boot yet?

djThunderfunk said:

TheEnglishGent said:

The free labels got pissed off putting stuff out and then seeing the profit labels sell it a short while after.

Doesn't make sense to me either.

Pay label's trying to profit from free label's work is as enevitable as them trying to profit from Prince's work. That's what they do.

Real Prince fans that are into bootlegs know that FBG deserves more of our thanks than Eye.

In the past, yes, but now its Eye supplying the demand. FBG/4DF etc could have played Eye at their own game with this and released their own version earlier, but when was the last time one of these labels released uncirculating outtakes? Dont get me wrong im not defending Eye and their rehash releases, but on this occasion they arw the ones giving people what they want (and fro me it will be free anyway) so for that they get props

Which would indicate that money has changed hands for these outtakes. Kind of a throwback to how bootlegging used to be years ago, except there was much more money in it.

Screw all this arguing about the mods crap! Has anyone actually HEARD this yet? It was "sold out" so apparently someone somewhere bought it and I highly doubt it was average Joe. I'm not opposed to buying boots, hell, that's the era I come from, but this one ain't cheap and shipping to America ain't either.

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KlyphIsBackAgain said:

Screw all this arguing about the mods crap! Has anyone actually HEARD this yet? It was "sold out" so apparently someone somewhere bought it and I highly doubt it was average Joe.

This!!

I want the extended Hot Wit U remix (and no, I'm not joking)!!

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

Screw all this arguing about the mods crap! Has anyone actually HEARD this yet? It was "sold out" so apparently someone somewhere bought it and I highly doubt it was average Joe. I'm not opposed to buying boots, hell, that's the era I come from, but this one ain't cheap and shipping to America ain't either.

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As soon as it's out, someone will upload it.

The orger who says that "real" Prince fans are more thankful to free labels than to Eye makes a really dumb statement. I'm more thankful to Eye, and I'm certainly as "real" a fan as him. Apart from being a real fan, I'm also respectful of other tastes and preferences, which he isn't. Free labels don't press CDs, so I choose Eye and will continue buying their stuff.

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All these orgers saying "real Prince fans are like this or are like that" are simply embarrasing themselves. "Real" Prince fans are diverse, thankfully, and I'm glad I'm a real fan who are not like those who have the cliched phrase "real fan" always in their mouth.

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evebody want what they don't got and the ones you have not heard before ( don't let him fool ya is not muddy like some thought that it might be) are full versions in perfect quality as listened to some of it . The majority of other other stuff i heard are in better quality than i have ever heard like around world in a day, elephants and flowers .

I think they probably got hold of the free labels work that they would not share as eye do not usually remaster things .

Moonbean leves is perfect quality like someone said as is neon telephone perfect quality. Both a step up on what i have ever heard before. .Some of the extended version like batdance, trust i am not sure whether they have been release before. As i say the majority are in perfect quality and the rest are very close to it.

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master said:

evebody want what they don't got and the ones you have not heard before ( don't let him fool ya is not muddy like some thought that it might be) are full versions in perfect quality as listened to some of it . The majority of other other stuff i heard are in better quality than i have ever heard like around world in a day, elephants and flowers .

I think they probably got hold of the free labels work that they would not share as eye do not usually remaster things .

Moonbean leves is perfect quality like someone said as is neon telephone perfect quality. Both a step up on what i have ever heard before. .Some of the extended version like batdance, trust i am not sure whether they have been release before. As i say the majority are in perfect quality and the rest are very close to it.

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Thanx 4 the feedback & what about Purple Rain Demo & LCDriver instru?.....is TrafficJam..the full instru or something else (vocals?)

Thanx

master said:

evebody want what they don't got and the ones you have not heard before ( don't let him fool ya is not muddy like some thought that it might be) are full versions in perfect quality as listened to some of it . The majority of other other stuff i heard are in better quality than i have ever heard like around world in a day, elephants and flowers .

I think they probably got hold of the free labels work that they would not share as eye do not usually remaster things .

Moonbean leves is perfect quality like someone said as is neon telephone perfect quality. Both a step up on what i have ever heard before. .Some of the extended version like batdance, trust i am not sure whether they have been release before. As i say the majority are in perfect quality and the rest are very close to it.

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So have you uploaded it, Master...?

love2thenines2003 said:

master said:

evebody want what they don't got and the ones you have not heard before ( don't let him fool ya is not muddy like some thought that it might be) are full versions in perfect quality as listened to some of it . The majority of other other stuff i heard are in better quality than i have ever heard like around world in a day, elephants and flowers .

I think they probably got hold of the free labels work that they would not share as eye do not usually remaster things .

Moonbean leves is perfect quality like someone said as is neon telephone perfect quality. Both a step up on what i have ever heard before. .Some of the extended version like batdance, trust i am not sure whether they have been release before. As i say the majority are in perfect quality and the rest are very close to it.

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Thanx 4 the feedback & what about Purple Rain Demo & LCDriver instru?.....is TrafficJam..the full instru or something else (vocals?)

Thanx

purple rain demo . is the unedited 1st avenue performance of it i think but they may have work on it studio. It is difficult to say unless l go back and listen to it on makings of rain , its very good sound but not one of best soung quality wise on release. I like traffic jam it is full version. it is just an instrumental and perfect sound but it is just music no singing by prince.

Lady cab driver i feel it is just the music without vocals to thats song. I think it was perfect quality.You will know by checking track lengh whether there is more to it than that.

Maybe some one else can help with instrumentals as not to sure what info you want on them.

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master said:

love2thenines2003 said:

Thanx 4 the feedback & what about Purple Rain Demo & LCDriver instru?.....is TrafficJam..the full instru or something else (vocals?)

Thanx

purple rain demo . is the unedited 1st avenue performance of it i think but they may have work on it studio. It is difficult to say unless l go back and listen to it on makings of rain , its very good sound but not one of best soung quality wise on release. I like traffic jam it is full version. it is just an instrumental and perfect sound but it is just music no singing by prince.

Lady cab driver i feel it is just the music without vocals to thats song. I think it was perfect quality.You will know by checking track lengh whether there is more to it than that.

Maybe some one else can help with instrumentals as not to sure what info you want on them.

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Thanx 4 clarifications...so i suppose with all your feedbacks that EMPTY ROOM (1985) is in fact the 1993 version well known by the fans & in circulation since a long time!

PS>Have u more comments about this Studio Set?

Thanx in advance 1 more!

I hope some of it starts leaking soon.

People seem to be hearing parts of it. The only sample I've found is of Love Never has to say goodbye and that we already have.

This could be a really great set if it lives up to the claims.

Traffic Jam in Full with Perfect sound.

Everybody want what they don't got in full with perfect sound

Moonbeam Levels with perfect sound

Neon Telephone with perfect sound

Eternity with Perfect sound

Possessed with perfect sound

Don't let him Fool ya with perfect sound. I've got the full song but only in real bad quality.

Those alone make this is very tempting set.

Why isn't Cosmic Day on this?

love2thenines2003 said:

Javi said:

The orger who says that "real" Prince fans are more thankful to free labels than to Eye makes a really dumb statement. I'm more thankful to Eye, and I'm certainly as "real" a fan as him. Apart from being a real fan, I'm also respectful of other tastes and preferences, which he isn't. Free labels don't press CDs, so I choose Eye and will continue buying their stuff.

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All these orgers saying "real Prince fans are like this or are like that" are simply embarrasing themselves. "Real" Prince fans are diverse, thankfully, and I'm glad I'm a real fan who are not like those who have the cliched phrase "real fan" always in their mouth.

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Alright! Relax....

Sorry for twisting your panties.

How 'bout this:

Other than those who don't know how to find, download, and burn (if they need an actual disc), and/or those who can afford to dump loads of cash on something the rest of us get for free, and/or those that are unaware when labels like Eye press the work of of labels like FBG and pass it off as their own.... all the other "real" Prince fans other than those I just mentioned, know that FBG and other free fan labels deserve our thanks and respect more than Eye and other profit labels.

Feel better now?

One last thing: Real Prince fans don't need validation from other real Prince fans to know that they are real Prince fans...

thedawnofanewera said:

Is cosmic day officially floating now. Are we finally going to hear it in its entirety??????

A handful of people have it, but I believe whilst it's a longer version than the commonly circulating clip, it's still not the full thing, but has the second verse and second chorus.

Extremely few people have the entire thing, it would seem.