Oh it's the purple essence account? The account that announces everything 5 minutes after it's announced elsewhere. The account that has never had a legitimate exclusive? That account? Great. Confirmed so. | |
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Making people who are more than willing to pay for music even consider just copying the music or illegally downloading it is bad business. I'll always pay Prince for his music, but since cd sales are falling off the deep end, giving more bang for the buck is a good business practice. He could release 20 cds with one song each on it if it was good business, but it isn't...bonus tracks and extra material is at least TRYING to care for your fans. Milking them for extra money in a bad economy is bad business. | |
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In the 80's albums were about 45 min each and were always preceded by singles that would then be on the albums. Those that bought the singles and the albums paid twice for the same song. Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors. | |
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RE: Album lengths I agree - in the 80s albums were shorter. Nobody cared. However Crystal Ball wasn't an "Album" per se. It was a random collection of outtakes. Those CD's could have been full with no detrimental effect to the overall feel. | |
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I feel ya except u forget a little thing: an album of stronger material for whom exactly? Because as u may have noticed it's not like we all agree on what's strong and what's not. If we've had only one album out of PlecEl and AOA who's to tell the lost songs wouldn't be my favorites, or yours... This is why this logic doesn't stand at all in the first place and why more is better. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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I'm sure you enjoy your $20 Face Down live tape. Great Value, huh? The $77 Lotus website, great, huh? The 40 minute Crystal Ball discs that you probably got a year after your credit card was charged...
The point is, Prince has been milking fans treating them like dirt, sometimes doing wonderful things like the NPGMC soundchecks, etc...but dropping the ball time after time, and making fans feel like garbage after spending thousands of their hard earned money on him, giving him a nice life...
93 minutes of music? Just make it 70-79, and release a disc of the outtakes for the diehards...
Somebody with Prince's track record on value for music should work harder to please fans...
But he doesn't HAVE to. He could release 50 cds with one song on them...some of you would praise him for that...
I just call it like I see it...one better album between PE and AOA would have sold a little more...not much, but maybe with some INTELLIGENT promotion....not some Silly girl bumbling on on and on about Power Generations, and ignoring Jimi Hendrix, and praising the Love Sex song as "her jam."
It's just a comedy of errors with this guy...
But I love him, and will support him...but I'll be critical, the same way I would be about an uncle that gets too drunk at a party...It's just being honest. | |
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1. Subjective to an extent. But, many music critics have pointed out that the songs are standard and quite unremarkable despite the strength of the album. In my own personal opinion, I wouldn't say they're crap, but they aren't great. 2. Erm. It's prince.org 3. Erm. ok? 4. This almost sounds like you're having a conversation with yourself. Obviously nobody can do what's being asked. One can only say that Bart's opinions are at one end of the spectrum. A lot of folks aren't impressed by the abulms. That's ok. I like 3 songs from the albulm--that's it. 3. But, the sequencing is his strongest in years. Further to Bart's point (in my own words), the strength of the sequencing doesn't mean the material itself is widely accepted as good. มีเพียงความว่างเปล่า 只有空虚 Dim ond gwacter 만 공허함이있다 唯一の虚しさがあります There is only the void. | |
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มีเพียงความว่างเปล่า 只有空虚 Dim ond gwacter 만 공허함이있다 唯一の虚しさがあります There is only the void. | |
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I bought LotusFlower at Target, $11.99 for 3 CDs, pretty good deal! My copy of Crytal Ball has 50 minutes per CD, don't know of a version with 40 min per disc. That said a compilation of outtakes from Prince SHOULD have been at least 70 mins per disc, but I digress...
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All it takes is to check the threads about slimming Emancipation, (or Lotus/MPLS, or these 2 new ones,) down to a single CD to see that there is NO consensus on what are the good songs to keep and what are the fillers to remove. Databank's got it right. The more Prince releases, the more each and every one of us can pick from and find the tracks we personally like. Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors. | |
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There is a good chance Revelation and Xcess Space will both be on the new album. There is a reason why Prince gave the ok for the public to preview those two unreleased songs for that Yahoo event (of the album releases of AOA and EP). Both of those songs sounds like the Prince I grew up on, and loved. [Edited 10/21/14 22:32pm] | |
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I still think its called The Ex's Face. Doesnt sound like the Prince I grew up on though. Doesn't sound like anything P has done before. Which leads me to believe it isnt on an NPG release that may, or may not, get an imminent release. No horns, all electronic. I think this song will either be on a future Prince and Josh release, or will end up in the vault, never to be heard of again. | |
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i've been thinking the same thing. they are really different songs. sort of like that acoustic track with 3EG is another thing entirely too. / the ex's face (i think it's called that too) is really different from all the other tracks that are rumoured to be at the album at this stage (stuff from last year, with horns). / "revelation" could be on it though. for some reason it reminds me a lot of "elixir" from the bria valente album. / here's to hoping we'll get both a Prince & The NPG and a NPGQ album. but how on earth he is planning to release one or both of them with the PR remaster also in the can, will be very interesting to see. / at the moment i'm more excited about new material, purely because prince makes it seem like he has zero interest in the remaster, and thus probably plans to only release the album as it is in better soundquality, with no extra material. it also doesn't bode well for any other remasters in the future. so if it's simply a choice between better sounding old stuff or brand new stuff, i'd rather have the new.
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I agree. A remastered PR doesnt really interest me. I would be interested in any extra material, but the album itself sounds fine as it is to my ears. If all we are getting is better sound, then I would much prefer SOTT remastered as that really needs it. PR is mastered ok considering its age. And anyway, mastering by todays standards just means getting it as loud as possible doesnt it? Not neccessarily a good thing. | |
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That was my point. Back in the days Prince music sounded like nothing on the radio. It was a hybred of new musical sounds combined into one, creating a competely new sound. That's what I meant by saying "Xcess Face" is like the Prince I've grew up on, because it sounds completely different from other music of it's day. Let's face it, these past couple of years, Prince has been trying to sound like "what's popular" in terms of music, with mediocre results. I stand by my comment, that I feel both unreleased songs will be on this upcoming NPG album....but it's anyone's guess at this point. Now as for the upcoming release of "Purple Rain" Remaster, I'm sure it will also contain extended versions of the songs released during that time period. Now will it contain unreleased tracks? That's up in the air, because we have no idea, and Prince and Warner Bros aren't exactly hinting at what it will contain. I for one, am most looking forward to that, than any new music released by Prince and 3rdEyeGirl.
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Yup, I hear ya, and in that context I agree. | |
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Source? | |
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There are no official sources, just fans posting this info on twitter without mentioning their source. So, nothing real so far. | |
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. Interesting. How can you state as a "fact" that a song is good or that it is not good? What are the objective criteria for labelling a song "good" or "not good"? | |
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exactly! of all the 1978-1988 albums, PR is probably the one that sounds best, i might end up buyin most of the remasters, even if they are single discs (and if they are ever even released) but it's not something i would rush out to buy, or order online. it would be more like "i've got some money left over, shall I buy a book or shall I get Dirty Mind remastered?"
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It's quite possible, that I was not really serious about all my points. Still, I am sick of getting cds with well under 80 min of music. It's a dying format, and it might help get some more sales, but it really doesn't matter. | |
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We do represent two different era of fans though, I think. I checked out for periods of the boxsets and mail order period and had to play catch up later. | |
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I hope we get a new CD soon. One with more than 10-12 tracks. Sorry but I feel ripped off when I get only 12 tracks from Prince. The way soem of you are talking you would cut down Sign O the Times. I love every song off that album. I want MORE songs!! We waited so long for his to release more..yet he releases little. Funny casue he signs with WB and releases two CD's. in one yr.
Personally they both suck. I have been a fan since 1983. I don't want PR2 or Sign 2. I want the best he can come up with. AOA is not it. neither is 3rdeye.
AOA is the best he has released in 10 yrs but its not HIS best.
This is what happens when an artist has nothing left to say.
No one is there to challenge him.
No one to say..you did this already.
Not a producer.
Just someone to say "no you can do better."
I also want a more mature introspective prince. I know he can talk about sex/love/freedom/whatever... but want a mature price like John lennon in Double Fantasy.
I want him to challange US the listener. He has not done that since Rainbow Children. Everybody's lookin 4 the ladder, it's in the garage | |
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That comment actually came from Jester in conversation with Funkenberry. Jester had just came back from Paisley and seems pretty connected and 'favoured'. Songs to be included on the album, including Big City, Shades of Umber and 2 Young 2 Dare have been confirmed in an email from 3RDEYEGIRL to Funkenberry and he's posted them on his twitter account.
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I think my relationship to 's music is different to many here because I checked in in 89, after the "golden age", so even though at first I became a fan because of the classic albums when I got 'em all (90-91), I really loved them as being already something from the past, and therefore my holy grail was never for to "do it again": as years passed I enjoyed his new releases and "my" in the end was already a said to be on the decline, and I never really felt it that way, though. In terms of a personal experience of excitement, waiting for the next album and buying it on the day of release, it really started for me with D&P and the exciting years for me were the 90's, because I had the enthusiasm of youth and every new record was a new world to dive into. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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Prince got you to buy them both and you'll buy this next one and the next... and so on. Bad business indeed. When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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BartVanHemelen said:
. The core problem is crappy songs, and that hasn't been solved. Sure, AOA seems to have been compiled with some thought in mind, more than previous records, but it doesn't change the fact the songs aren't good. They are not good to you? The two disc have received good reviews and good sales despite an awful year for music sales and no promotion. | |
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