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Reply #60 posted 10/17/14 6:27am

Noodled24

Superconductor said:

Aintturninround lyrics first two verses quickly typed:

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Born on the isle of pain

it is easy to find easy to blame

used to be gagged and bound

it's over now, it's truth we found

and we aint

no we aint turnin round

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get to the promised land

you got to go back to understand

everything comes from psalm

all that brave under the crown

and we aint

no we aint turnin round

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etc

I hear "Everything comes from sound/all vibrating under the crown"

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Reply #61 posted 10/17/14 6:30am

OldFriends4Sal
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Once upon a time in the land of Sinaplenty

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Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go

A feeling of self-worth (everybody's looking)
Will caress U (for the answers)
The size of the whole wide world will decrease (how the story started)
(and how it will end)
The love of God's creation will undress U
And time spent alone my friend, will cease

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Reply #62 posted 10/17/14 6:41am

Gohi

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A few months ago when I mentioned that 3EG sounds Christian influenced I was shouted down.

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Hannah and Josh in their interviews, they talk about their stint with Prince like it was some gift from God that they were destined for, and they are openly proselytising, and all this comes across as arrogant and naive imo.

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Maybe this is not felt that strong in the US where this way of talking about one's faith might be more common and accepted.

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I don't mind musicians having faith and practicing a religion. It can influence their music and can come out in their music and that is fine if it aligns with one's own worldview or spiritual view or it has some universal appeal.


It's very common in the US, sadly.

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Reply #63 posted 10/17/14 6:47am

Superconductor

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In some way I expect R&B and funk and soul to have spiritual or religious lyrics but not rock.

Rock music is usually only with religious messages when it's Christian rock. No?

Maybe I'm mistaken.

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Reply #64 posted 10/17/14 7:22am

lezama

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U2 has had overtly christian lyrics in their music before, I wonder if their fan board reacts like the little girl from the Exorcist when hearing them.. biggrin

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Im not even a christian, but its surprising to see so many people behaving judgmentally and bigotedly towards christians in the same way people claim christians are to them..

Change it one more time..
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Reply #65 posted 10/17/14 7:30am

OldFriends4Sal
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Superconductor said:

In some way I expect R&B and funk and soul to have spiritual or religious lyrics but not rock.

Rock music is usually only with religious messages when it's Christian rock. No?

Maybe I'm mistaken.

why would funk have spiritual or religious lyrics?

add to that Country music, Folk Music, also Raggae

And I would think you will find spiritual/religious tones in 'classic rock' or 60 rock/hippie rock etc

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Reply #66 posted 10/17/14 7:31am

OldFriends4Sal
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Gohi said:

Superconductor said:

A few months ago when I mentioned that 3EG sounds Christian influenced I was shouted down.

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Hannah and Josh in their interviews, they talk about their stint with Prince like it was some gift from God that they were destined for, and they are openly proselytising, and all this comes across as arrogant and naive imo.

.

Maybe this is not felt that strong in the US where this way of talking about one's faith might be more common and accepted.

.

I don't mind musicians having faith and practicing a religion. It can influence their music and can come out in their music and that is fine if it aligns with one's own worldview or spiritual view or it has some universal appeal.


It's very common in the US, sadly.

why is it sad?

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Reply #67 posted 10/17/14 7:42am

purplethunder3
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Uh, she does know the controversial musical history of Prince, doesn't she? lol Not to mention Led Zeppelin, Van Halen, and the Allman Brothers...

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #68 posted 10/17/14 7:45am

skywalker

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OldFriends4Sale said:



nosajd said:




OldFriends4Sale said:




But Prince has done that since Purple Rain era





True, but I don't believe he comes off as super preachy in most of his music (not specifically ayway), except for TRC, which imo the music certainly made of up for the preachy lyrics. Even though he's a supposed JW, it's not a major glowing them thru out his music. There may be hints of it here & there but it's usually subtle to a certain degree.





I really don't know why this is even an issue brought up on the org. Hanna Ford is not Prince, 3rd Eye Girl is not Christian Rock.


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And again, to some people just saying God is preachy, and to some just being positive in lyrics is preachy. I mean there were people on the org saying "I don't like LOL because it's too preachy"


I don't like it but not for those reasons.


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Sorry but people in general are known to be unrational and outspoke on a lot of stuff in general. And bitchy. There are a lot of music styles and messages I'm not into. So what. There are Prince albums I find booooring. So what.


Prince: God, 4 the Tears in Your Eyes, the Cross, Eye No, Anestesia, God Is Allive, Planet Earth and I'm skipping over a lot...



Agreed.
"New Power slide...."
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Reply #69 posted 10/17/14 8:48am

Noodled24

Superconductor said:

In some way I expect R&B and funk and soul to have spiritual or religious lyrics but not rock.

Rock music is usually only with religious messages when it's Christian rock. No?

Maybe I'm mistaken.

Purple Rain... Gold...

To be honest it'd probably be easier to list the Prince songs that have no spiritual/religious undertones or blatent lyrics.

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Reply #70 posted 10/17/14 9:06am

OldFriends4Sal
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Noodled24 said:

Superconductor said:

In some way I expect R&B and funk and soul to have spiritual or religious lyrics but not rock.

Rock music is usually only with religious messages when it's Christian rock. No?

Maybe I'm mistaken.

Purple Rain... Gold...

To be honest it'd probably be easier to list the Prince songs that have no spiritual/religious undertones or blatent lyrics.

actually Parade falls into that catagory

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Reply #71 posted 10/17/14 4:45pm

Superconductor

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Noodled24 said:

Superconductor said:

In some way I expect R&B and funk and soul to have spiritual or religious lyrics but not rock.

Rock music is usually only with religious messages when it's Christian rock. No?

Maybe I'm mistaken.

Purple Rain... Gold...

To be honest it'd probably be easier to list the Prince songs that have no spiritual/religious undertones or blatent lyrics.

I wouldn't categorise Purple Rain or Gold as rock music. confuse

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Reply #72 posted 10/18/14 7:29am

luvsexy4all

look at planet earth ---as it was written ..it shall be sung

[Edited 10/18/14 7:38am]

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Reply #73 posted 10/18/14 7:56am

djThunderfunk

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Superconductor said:

I wouldn't categorise Purple Rain as rock music.


Then, you would be wrong. The song, Purple Rain, is obviously rock and roll. As is Let's Go Crazy.

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Not dead, not in prison, still funkin'...
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Reply #74 posted 10/18/14 8:34am

MotownSubdivis
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The intolerance for Christianity in this thread is REAL.
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Reply #75 posted 10/18/14 8:55am

Embrace

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Indeed it is.

And it is strange, because Prince has always been a 'Christian' in his songs.

A 'sinner' yes, but that's core Christian teaching: we are ALL sinners.

But always about God and always - more or less - 'preaching' .

And still a certain segment of anti-religious Prince fanatcis take every opportunity they get to smash their nonsensical arguments on it. So emotional, it says more about themselves and where they are standing in their life, than on the music they pretend to be reacting to.

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Reply #76 posted 10/18/14 11:24am

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filthyrichyuppie said:

klick2me said:

I don't see 3rdeyegirl as christian rock. However, I applaud Hanna for speaking about her faith. I am also a believer and it makes me feel good to know that Prince has someone in his band who can share the word of God with him. I have seen the healing power of God and prophetically speaking, he has done wonders in my life. If Hanna has experienced what I have, Then I would say Prince has done well in hiring her. Right On Hanna! Don't let anybody get you down, girl!

klick

Love this kind of talk. All so wonderfully vague and meaningless. Sorry. No disrespect but what kind of healing powers are you talking about?

In the past, I'm sure you've have some kind of infection, right?. Did you trust in the healing powers of God or did you haul ass to a doctor and pick medical science? I think we both know what you did.

All I ask is that people get real. Nothing more.

Vague? Yes, but not meaningless. And yes, healed. Like as in sick, prayed for and than healed. But not from an infection, at least not yet. I don't expect you to understand, sprititually speaking. However, since you have no knowledge of the Christian faith, you really should refrain from putting one down. It's rude. But this is the Org and I expect it. Heck, with a username like your's, what should one really expect? No disrespect, bro or girl, whatever you are.

Back to the original post; My post was real in that I was commenting on 3rdeyegirl not being "christian rock". However, your response has nothing to do with the subject at hand. POLICE!!!

It's all good. I'm not mad at you. Too much negativity in the world. All we need is love. Make love not war. If you don't like my words about love, blame Prince; because his music did it to me. razz

klick

klick
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Reply #77 posted 10/18/14 11:24am

Noodled24

Superconductor said:

Noodled24 said:

Purple Rain... Gold...

To be honest it'd probably be easier to list the Prince songs that have no spiritual/religious undertones or blatent lyrics.

I wouldn't categorise Purple Rain or Gold as rock music. confuse

Purple Rain is an obvious rock anthem IMO. It's the closer to his Rock crossover album.

Gold is possibly more pop than rock but it has a similar rock anthem feel (the released version)

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Reply #78 posted 10/18/14 11:50am

dadeepop

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lezama said:

U2 has had overtly christian lyrics in their music before, I wonder if their fan board reacts like the little girl from the Exorcist when hearing them.. biggrin

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Im not even a christian, but its surprising to see so many people behaving judgmentally and bigotedly towards christians in the same way people claim christians are to them..

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You nailed it. Thanks for your intellectual honesty. I decided to speak out for the people who might not have felt comfortable doing so. I'd rather be talking about Prince's music on here, but I'll be damned if I'm going to put up with what is essentially social bullying. Tolerance shouldn't be a one-way thing.

"The password is what."
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Reply #79 posted 10/20/14 5:57am

OldFriends4Sal
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Noodled24 said:

Superconductor said:

I wouldn't categorise Purple Rain or Gold as rock music. confuse

Purple Rain is an obvious rock anthem IMO. It's the closer to his Rock crossover album.

Gold is possibly more pop than rock but it has a similar rock anthem feel (the released version)

Right Purple Rain is definately a Rock anthem

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Reply #80 posted 10/20/14 5:59am

OldFriends4Sal
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luvsexy4all said:

look at planet earth ---as it was written ..it shall be sung

Just like the countless bodies
That revolve around the sun
Planet Earth must now come into balance with the One,
That caused it all to be
Then we'll see His kingdom come,
So shall it be written, so shall it be sung

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Reply #81 posted 10/20/14 12:02pm

OperatingTheta
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Rebeljuice said:

So are Josh and Hannah JWs? Judging by their devotion to a god as outlined above, it must have been extremely difficult to not throw some god stuff onto the albums. What about the other 2 girls, they also look up to a god-like mythical being?

Hannah appears to be a born-again Christian, along with Joshua. Born-again's and JW's aren't particularly compatible. Well, strictly speaking, no other Christian denomination (particularly Christendom) is as JW's consider them as part of Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion, due to be destroyed very soon.

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Reply #82 posted 10/20/14 1:49pm

3rdeyedude

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Superconductor said:

A few months ago when I mentioned that 3EG sounds Christian influenced I was shouted down.

.

Hannah and Josh in their interviews, they talk about their stint with Prince like it was some gift from God that they were destined for, and they are openly proselytising, and all this comes across as arrogant and naive imo.

.

Maybe this is not felt that strong in the US where this way of talking about one's faith might be more common and accepted.

.

I don't mind musicians having faith and practicing a religion. It can influence their music and can come out in their music and that is fine if it aligns with one's own worldview or spiritual view or it has some universal appeal.


Yeah, and from the looks of the replies in this thread, seems like they get easily offended.

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Reply #83 posted 10/20/14 1:56pm

3rdeyedude

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nosajd said:

3rdeyedude said:

Hey, who knows why I don't like the new stuff....................maybe it is because it all sounds like religious watered-down, light FM, contemorary christian radio R&B / light rock bullshit to me. It's sad that I have to put his music into a category now but if the shoe fits............

It is just an opinion.

I thought it was ok to have opinions here on the org, no?

What sounds so religious to you, just curious?

Nothing specific. I think it just belongs on a Christian Rock radio station. What other kinds of radio stations can you imagine hearing this shit on?

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Reply #84 posted 10/20/14 4:18pm

Stymie

Embrace said:

^

Indeed it is.

And it is strange, because Prince has always been a 'Christian' in his songs.

A 'sinner' yes, but that's core Christian teaching: we are ALL sinners.

But always about God and always - more or less - 'preaching' .

And still a certain segment of anti-religious Prince fanatcis take every opportunity they get to smash their nonsensical arguments on it. So emotional, it says more about themselves and where they are standing in their life, than on the music they pretend to be reacting to.

yeahthat

I swaer people act like they just met Prince yesterday.

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Reply #85 posted 10/21/14 4:26pm

3rdeyedude

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Stymie said:

Embrace said:

^

Indeed it is.

And it is strange, because Prince has always been a 'Christian' in his songs.

A 'sinner' yes, but that's core Christian teaching: we are ALL sinners.

But always about God and always - more or less - 'preaching' .

And still a certain segment of anti-religious Prince fanatcis take every opportunity they get to smash their nonsensical arguments on it. So emotional, it says more about themselves and where they are standing in their life, than on the music they pretend to be reacting to.

yeahthat

I swaer people act like they just met Prince yesterday.

and yet again, it's always the religious once who are the most judgemental........funny how that works

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Reply #86 posted 10/21/14 5:00pm

datdude

YOU started this ish, by "judging" from a friggin' post elsewhere about Hannah's beliefs and then pasted your God hating disdain onto an album you had already decided you disliked but now you had MORE 'reason' to dislike it. GTFOH!

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Reply #87 posted 10/21/14 5:21pm

Stymie

3rdeyedude said:



Stymie said:




Embrace said:


^



Indeed it is.


And it is strange, because Prince has always been a 'Christian' in his songs.


A 'sinner' yes, but that's core Christian teaching: we are ALL sinners.


But always about God and always - more or less - 'preaching' .


And still a certain segment of anti-religious Prince fanatcis take every opportunity they get to smash their nonsensical arguments on it. So emotional, it says more about themselves and where they are standing in their life, than on the music they pretend to be reacting to.




yeahthat



I swaer people act like they just met Prince yesterday.




and yet again, it's always the religious once who are the most judgemental.....funny how that works

im agnostic but still agree with embrace's post.
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Reply #88 posted 10/21/14 9:35pm

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That's the thing: Prince has not "always been a christian in his songs".
His philosophy or spirituality as expressed in his songs has been and continues to be a mix of christian and other beliefs including esoteric and blending sexual with spiritual. Akashic records. Egyptian. His thing about the third eye / pineal gland is pure esoteric/new age stuff.
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[Edited 10/21/14 21:37pm]
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Reply #89 posted 10/21/14 9:48pm

MoBettaBliss

3rdeyedude said:

Stymie said:

yeahthat

I swaer people act like they just met Prince yesterday.

and yet again, it's always the religious once who are the most judgemental........funny how that works



i've actually found over the years that on this site, it's just the opposite

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