I do mornings at a Christian radio station, 106.3 WCTL in Erie PA. I wouldn't play Prince on the air...ever LOL

There is definitely some boring stuff we play but there is also TobyMac, LeCrae, Newsboys, Mandisa, Jamie Grace, Grits and tons of stuff I really like. Just like any other style of music.

I don't normally talk about my faith here. Not the place. I come here because I enjoy Prince's music. Have most of my life.

[Edited 10/21/14 22:06pm]

Superconductor said:

There is a big difference between Prince's spiritual side which has been in his music since day one, and his preaching after the JW conversion. Before, he would tell us what he believed in and would paint a picture that could be interpreted in many ways. Later, he was preaching in a way that told us what we should believe in, no ifs and buts, including quotations of scripture.

I dont want to be told what I must believe in. At the same time, I dont mind being told what he believes in, just dont preach at me.

Anyway, AOA is devoid of any preaching so hopefully he has gotten it out of his system. Plus, there is a lot of raunchy innuendo which is good. Maybe we will hear the word "fuck" again soon too! Then we can finally say we have come full circle and welcome back our badass Prince once and for all.

Rebeljuice said:

There is a big difference between Prince's spiritual side which has been in his music since day one, and his preaching after the JW conversion. Before, he would tell us what he believed in and would paint a picture that could be interpreted in many ways. Later, he was preaching in a way that told us what we should believe in, no ifs and buts, including quotations of scripture.

I dont want to be told what I must believe in. At the same time, I dont mind being told what he believes in, just dont preach at me.

Anyway, AOA is devoid of any preaching so hopefully he has gotten it out of his system. Plus, there is a lot of raunchy innuendo which is good. Maybe we will hear the word "fuck" again soon too! Then we can finally say we have come full circle and welcome back our badass Prince once and for all.

Well said!

djdaffy1227 said:

I do mornings at a Christian radio station, 106.3 WCTL in Erie PA. I wouldn't play Prince on the air...ever LOL

There is definitely some boring stuff we play but there is also TobyMac, LeCrae, Newsboys, Mandisa, Jamie Grace, Grits and tons of stuff I really like. Just like any other style of music.

I don't normally talk about my faith here. Not the place. I come here because I enjoy Prince's music. Have most of my life.

[Edited 10/21/14 22:06pm]

not even Whitecaps? give it a few spins maybe..........it might catch on

3rdeyedude said:

Stymie said:

I swaer people act like they just met Prince yesterday.

and yet again, it's always the religious once who are the most judgemental........funny how that works

...The hypocrisy is real too.

Rebeljuice said:

There is a big difference between Prince's spiritual side which has been in his music since day one, and his preaching after the JW conversion. Before, he would tell us what he believed in and would paint a picture that could be interpreted in many ways. Later, he was preaching in a way that told us what we should believe in, no ifs and buts, including quotations of scripture.

I dont want to be told what I must believe in. At the same time, I dont mind being told what he believes in, just dont preach at me.

Anyway, AOA is devoid of any preaching so hopefully he has gotten it out of his system. Plus, there is a lot of raunchy innuendo which is good. Maybe we will hear the word "fuck" again soon too! Then we can finally say we have come full circle and welcome back our badass Prince once and for all.

Why do you feel the need to hear the "f" word from Prince or desire him to be a "badass" again? That Prince is long gone, and I don't think he's returning. Prince has always been a spiritual person, and I don't think anything is going to change that. From the beginning, Prince has shown that he loves God, and if you love God, you don't feel the need to swear/cuss/curse/use foul language/etc., nor do you want to, because that's not a part of God. When you love God, you desire to please Him not offend or sin against Him. That's where I think that Prince is in his life right now, and when you're at that point in your life, nothing's going to change you and make you go back to your old ways, nor do you want to.

djdaffy1227 said:

I don't normally talk about my faith here. Not the place.

Thank you.

Superconductor said:

That's the thing: Prince has not "always been a christian in his songs". His philosophy or spirituality as expressed in his songs has been and continues to be a mix of christian and other beliefs including esoteric and blending sexual with spiritual. Akashic records. Egyptian. His thing about the third eye / pineal gland is pure esoteric/new age stuff.

True, but overall it's been a 'Christian' influence.

the Akashic records and Egyptology is something only heard on the Rainbow Children album

I think I remember a slight mention of Pharoh in the One (NPS)

Yes he's somehow blend other idealogies at times, but a lot of that stuff could go anywhere

the 3rd Eye song on the Truth is something I don't see him making much lyrical connection to, especially the 3rd Eye Girl concept isn't really much that I know of. If it is I wonder if Hanna would have issue with it.

3rdeyedude said:

Stymie said:

I swaer people act like they just met Prince yesterday.

and yet again, it's always the religious once who are the most judgemental........funny how that works

I strongly doubt that. Judgemental is a human experience and your post about Hanna and this music is judgemental. How do excuse yourself?

ludwig said:

djdaffy1227 said:

I don't normally talk about my faith here. Not the place.

Thank you.

Actually most members do not.

The only time some will speak out is in the P&R thread. When certain atheists/agnostic judge/challenge their beliefs.
We had on who specifically said last year, it was his purpose in creating threads to try to turn as many away from their beliefs as possible

...

I know there is a heaven, I know there is a hell
Listen 2 me people, I got a story to tell
I know there was confusion lightnin' all around me
That's when I called his name don't U know he found me

No! Is what Spooky Electric say, it's not OK
But I know love is the only way till my dying day
No - til my dying day I'll be OK
Cuz Lovesexy is the one til my day is done
Hundalasiliah

I know there is a devil because he talks so loud
He makes U do things that your friends do, hang out with the crowd
But my Lord he is so quiet when He calls your name
When U hear it your heart will thunder
U will want 2 hear it every day

No! (people) Is what Spooky Electric say (everbody say)
But don't U know that I know
Love is the only way, til my dying day
No - Til my dying day I'll be OK
Cuz Lovesexy is the one til my day is done
Hundalasiliah

Alright y'all, everybody in the house (serve it up, Frankie)
Here's what I want U 2 do
Raise your hand up, straight in the air
Swing it 2 the right, savoir faire
Up on the 2, swing on the 4
Everybody on the dancefloor

Sha-ho, sha-ho, sha-ho, sha-ho
Sha-ho, sha-ho, sha-ho, sha-ho

Y'all ain't got it together
Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead

Raise your hand up, straight in the air

(let's get it up, let's get it up)

Yeah

Say no
(say no) No - if U can't find your way - everybody say
(say no) No - if U're afraid, everybody ain't got it made
(Say no) - if U want a drug other than the God above
No - if U need a drink every single day...
Blow that devil away!

Say yes
Yes - if U want this feeling called love
(come on 'ya, say)
Yes - if U want it now raise your hand 2 the man above
(Yes) Up on the 2, swing right on the 4
We want everybody 2 open this door!

Say no - if U don't wanna live life under the gun
(I know) We know a better way 2 have some fun
(I know) I know - there is a heaven and a hell
I know there is a heaven and a hell

OldFriends4Sale said:

Superconductor said:

That's the thing: Prince has not "always been a christian in his songs". His philosophy or spirituality as expressed in his songs has been and continues to be a mix of christian and other beliefs including esoteric and blending sexual with spiritual. Akashic records. Egyptian. His thing about the third eye / pineal gland is pure esoteric/new age stuff.

True, but overall it's been a 'Christian' influence.

the Akashic records and Egyptology is something only heard on the Rainbow Children album

I think I remember a slight mention of Pharoh in the One (NPS)

Yes he's somehow blend other idealogies at times, but a lot of that stuff could go anywhere

the 3rd Eye song on the Truth is something I don't see him making much lyrical connection to, especially the 3rd Eye Girl concept isn't really much that I know of. If it is I wonder if Hanna would have issue with it.

The Egyptian influences were not only around TRC. Prince has been using Egyptian hieroglyphs such as the eye and the Ankh well before TRC. The Symbol album has a pyramid on the back cover/booklet. The Symbol album used a lot of other Egyptian imagery, the promotion of that album reeked of Egypt. And what about the 3 Chains o Gold video??

I distinctly remember that period.

1contessa said:

From the beginning, Prince has shown that he loves God, and if you love God, you don't feel the need to swear/cuss/curse/use foul language/etc., nor do you want to....

You've heard Prince prior to Emancipation? Anyway, thanks for the preach, a waste of time, but good effort. I think im now going to play a song by Prince about him wanting to fuck the taste out of somebodys mouth... You may have heard it.

Rebeljuice said:

1contessa said:

From the beginning, Prince has shown that he loves God, and if you love God, you don't feel the need to swear/cuss/curse/use foul language/etc., nor do you want to....

You've heard Prince prior to Emancipation? Anyway, thanks for the preach, a waste of time, but good effort. I think im now going to play a song by Prince about him wanting to fuck the taste out of somebodys mouth... You may have heard it.

Wow, that's just one out of a few hundred songs. How many more can you think of? Don't be such a fucking dick man.

Superconductor said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

True, but overall it's been a 'Christian' influence.

the Akashic records and Egyptology is something only heard on the Rainbow Children album

I think I remember a slight mention of Pharoh in the One (NPS)

Yes he's somehow blend other idealogies at times, but a lot of that stuff could go anywhere

the 3rd Eye song on the Truth is something I don't see him making much lyrical connection to, especially the 3rd Eye Girl concept isn't really much that I know of. If it is I wonder if Hanna would have issue with it.

The Egyptian influences were not only around TRC. Prince has been using Egyptian hieroglyphs such as the eye and the Ankh well before TRC. The Symbol album has a pyramid on the back cover/booklet. The Symbol album used a lot of other Egyptian imagery, the promotion of that album reeked of Egypt. And what about the 3 Chains o Gold video??

I distinctly remember that period.

Wow, so he used a pyramid and the 'eye' on the Symbol album. 'Geez, oh my God', a freaking Pyramid and an 'Eye' as Symbols... can you get to that?!
'Gosh'. Don't be such a knee-jerk atheist with these slumpy 'retords'.

Point being: Prince has NEVER EVER stopped writing as a 'Christian' in his lyrics. And there is nothing you can do to change that.

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[Edited 10/25/14 16:59pm]

Rebeljuice said:

1contessa said:

From the beginning, Prince has shown that he loves God, and if you love God, you don't feel the need to swear/cuss/curse/use foul language/etc., nor do you want to....

You've heard Prince prior to Emancipation? Anyway, thanks for the preach, a waste of time, but good effort. I think im now going to play a song by Prince about him wanting to fuck the taste out of somebodys mouth... You may have heard it.

He started mixing it all in around Controversy really good

He actually had no 'religious' lyrics/references (that I can recall prior to Controversy) and Parade had nothing. No 'nasty nor religious'

.

Can U relate?

.

Whatever U heard about me is true

I change the rules and do what I want 2 do

I'm in love with God, it's the only way

Cause U and I know we gotta die one day

If U think I'm crazy, you're probably right

But I'm gonna have fun every mutha fuckin night

If U like 2 fight, you're a double drag fool

I'm going 2 another life, how about U?

.

I love that song -Let's Pretend We're Married

Superconductor said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

True, but overall it's been a 'Christian' influence.

the Akashic records and Egyptology is something only heard on the Rainbow Children album

I think I remember a slight mention of Pharoh in the One (NPS)

Yes he's somehow blend other idealogies at times, but a lot of that stuff could go anywhere

the 3rd Eye song on the Truth is something I don't see him making much lyrical connection to, especially the 3rd Eye Girl concept isn't really much that I know of. If it is I wonder if Hanna would have issue with it.

The Egyptian influences were not only around TRC. Prince has been using Egyptian hieroglyphs such as the eye and the Ankh well before TRC. The Symbol album has a pyramid on the back cover/booklet. The Symbol album used a lot of other Egyptian imagery, the promotion of that album reeked of Egypt. And what about the 3 Chains o Gold video??

I distinctly remember that period.

Yes he did start playing with imagery around LoveSymbol period, but it was mostly imagery, not lyrical. I guess Mayte being trained in Middle Eastern dance he incorporated the visuals. But I'm still scanning thru lyrics now, and I don't see/hear Egyptology in the lyrics.

And of course Prince has added very light slices of ideals that I don't know how to put my finger on, but mostly the lyrical influences as far as religion is christian in origin.

Stuff like Paisley Park -the ideal is another level of Prince Utopia (Uptown Erotic City) and it's his 'image a world' beliefs, but not of some other religious ideals that I know of.

Rebeljuice said:

There is a big difference between Prince's spiritual side which has been in his music since day one, and his preaching after the JW conversion. Before, he would tell us what he believed in and would paint a picture that could be interpreted in many ways. Later, he was preaching in a way that told us what we should believe in, no ifs and buts, including quotations of scripture.

I dont want to be told what I must believe in. At the same time, I dont mind being told what he believes in, just dont preach at me.

Anyway, AOA is devoid of any preaching so hopefully he has gotten it out of his system. Plus, there is a lot of raunchy innuendo which is good. Maybe we will hear the word "fuck" again soon too! Then we can finally say we have come full circle and welcome back our badass Prince once and for all.

Maybe it was how easily it mixed in with his Utopian 'Eden' of Erotic City/Paisley Park

But I think by 1982 it was clear what direction Prince came from 'spiritually'

I mean God:the Dance Electric is from Genesis,

4 the Tears In Your Eyes is '4 God so loved the world he gave his Son'

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usage of words like sin, salvation, the cross, 'save me Jesus I was a fool...' God is Love Love is God Boys & Girls Love God Above, God Is Alive, the Ladder- God Shed His Grace on Thee America, during the 1982-1987/88 usage of apocolyptic imagery in the lyrics ie the end of the world-the return of christ, Hello I'm fine, cause I know that the Lord is Coming Soon...I know there is a Devil, But my Lord he is so quiet, I'm in Love with god it's the only way...Oh Silly man that's not how it works, should I go 2 church on Sunday, should I stay at home and pray, Father the son is gone...

I mean it really is throught the lyrics and pretty clear his direction.

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Yes there is something about the JW conversion (not challenging his beliefs) that I also notice it seemed more like dogma(I think that's the word I want) Maybe because after the 1980s I don't see the utopia-ish scene that I was able to blend he denominational shift to.

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If he curse again, it makes no difference. Thru some of his hottest period he did not curse on the albums, unless 1 or 2 words. Purple Rain -no curses except for Erotic City, ATWIAD I don't recall any curse words -Girl ext 'your ass is so tight' Parade no cursing/no religous. SOTT probably only on Housequake? Nothing I recall on Lovesexy or Batman. If I'm clear on this his 'Purple Reign hottest years, the albums were not using curse words to be naughty'

OldFriends4Sale said:

Embrace said:

dadeepop said:

come on, y'all

you know your hatred for Christians is just a smokescreen for your anger against God
take a look around at this world

how can we find fault in Hannah compared to everything else going on

she's one of the sweetest people around

let's start hammering on all the evil in this world before we start blaming all that is good

Embrace said:

Rebeljuice said:

You've heard Prince prior to Emancipation? Anyway, thanks for the preach, a waste of time, but good effort. I think im now going to play a song by Prince about him wanting to fuck the taste out of somebodys mouth... You may have heard it.

Wow, that's just one out of a few hundred songs. How many more can you think of? Don't be such a fucking dick man.

Wind your fucking neck in. I was replying in context to what was said: "From the beginning, Prince has shown that he loves God, and if you love God, you don't feel the need to swear...". I pointed out Prince's "need" to swear somewhat after "the beginning". And yes, I can think of many other examples too. Get it?

Cause and effect
hey, hey, hey

Iif had the chance to do it all again
I wouldn't change a thing, except my next of kin
There's something on the tip of my tongue
-got a taste for sin
If you stamp your passport full of regret
You have nothing to remember but a lot to forget
Leave no enemies, leave no debt

Made in the image of gods intellect

Superconductor said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yes he did start playing with imagery around LoveSymbol period, but it was mostly imagery, not lyrical. I guess Mayte being trained in Middle Eastern dance he incorporated the visuals. But I'm still scanning thru lyrics now, and I don't see/hear Egyptology in the lyrics.

And of course Prince has added very light slices of ideals that I don't know how to put my finger on, but mostly the lyrical influences as far as religion is christian in origin.

Stuff like Paisley Park -the ideal is another level of Prince Utopia (Uptown Erotic City) and it's his 'image a world' beliefs, but not of some other religious ideals that I know of.

Yes indeed. I've been looking at lyrics also in symbol album and others to find any reference to Egypt or other, i.e. non christian, themes pre TRC and haven't found any so far. It was odd even then that the Symbol album had the egyptian imagery but the music and lyrics were not related to that at all. The vibe in those days in the religious lyrics was quite different to today's religious lyrics. Then it was a search and a yearning, now it's a statement.

He's reused Mendacity in the Rainbow Children from I Rock, Therefore I Am

Welcome to mendacity, sign your name
See the world so pretty, wealth and fame
They can put you on the field (Yeah)
But you won't get in the game (Wo no)
How many suckers knew that before they came (Woo yeah)
Now you know
.

This was noise! "So be it," said the Wise One, and
gladly obliged with an INVISIBLE DEED. The Banished Ones accepted and
returned to their place of birth in MendaCity. As 4 the Rainbow Children,
they began deconstructing the Digital Garden.

As prophesied, the Wise One and his woman were tempted by the Resistor. He,
knowing full well the Wise One's love 4 God, assimilated the woman first and
only. Quite naturally, chaos ensued and she and 5 others were banished from
the rainbow.4ever.
.
The Wise One who understood the law that was handed down from God long ago,
held fast in his belief that the Lord would bring him another one who loved him so.

.

The Banished Ones approaching the palace shouted obscenities. They tried 2
confuse the Rainbow Children and dethron their king. Using the lies promoted
by the whosepapers, hellavisions, and scagazines- The Banished Ones
constructed a Digital Garden around the palace that extended throughout the
world. Furthermore they demanded compensation 4 their time spent in the
palace b4 the exile. This was noise! "So be it," said the Wise One, and
gladly obliged with an INVISIBLE DEED. The Banished Ones accepted and
returned to their place of birth in MendaCity. As 4 the Rainbow Children,
they began deconstructing the Digital Garden. Door to door they went in
search of those willing to do The Work

.

From all over, the people came 2 do The Work. And with every phase of the
deconstruction the Everlasting Now became evermore reality. Everywhere the
people were witnessing a change, but the alchemy occurred most in the Muse.

.

.
As she fell in2 the Sensual Everafter, out of bodyout of mind,
she stroked her hair a hundred times.
And as she fell deeper in2 the hypnotic unwind, he counted his way in2 the suggestive mind.
Planting a seed that bears fruit on the tree,
he said, repeat after me.repeat after me.repeat after me.1+1+1 is 3

.

Rebeljuice said:

Embrace said:

Wow, that's just one out of a few hundred songs. How many more can you think of? Don't be such a fucking dick man.

Wind your fucking neck in. I was replying in context to what was said: "From the beginning, Prince has shown that he loves God, and if you love God, you don't feel the need to swear...". I pointed out Prince's "need" to swear somewhat after "the beginning". And yes, I can think of many other examples too. Get it?

Sorry, no I don't get it. The post you replied to may have been factually incorrect about him not "feeling the need to swear", but that was not my point. It was your tone. It came out like you were just being a jerk.