My impression -- two or three solid cuts, lots of meandering and filler, others picking up the slack.

I've never really understood these comparisons 2 older Prince projects.

That said......C&D is better.

I dont see much of a comparison either. C&D is a great album imo. But PE is much better overall.

EnDoRpHn said:

My impression -- two or three solid cuts, lots of meandering and filler, others picking up the slack.

Maybe you should stop comparing and moaning and just enjoy new music from Prince for what it is.

I swear Prince fans annoy me more than any other.

Why? Because he uses the Right The Wrong voice on the album? Only comparison I can hear.

C&D is MUCH better. But I can see where you're coming from.

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Graycap23 said:

I've never really understood these comparisons 2 older Prince projects.

That said......C&D is better.

^^^^This.

love both.

As much as i like to think of C&D as a straightforward rock album, it is certainly not that, more like a bunch of stuff put together with a rock attitude. Lotus and PE are more organic.

Sadly both C&D and PE have unexplicable rap segments, perhaps thats a common ground

Graycap23 said:

I've never really understood these comparisons 2 older Prince projects.

Exactly. Plectrum Electrum is Plectrum Electrum, and Chaos and Disorder is Chaos and Disorder. Different recordings from different eras, no comparisons needed.

EnDoRpHn said:

My impression -- two or three solid cuts, lots of meandering and filler, others picking up the slack.

PE is not exactly setting the world on fire...But C&D nearly destroyed that man's career....lol....Beyond "Dinner With Delores" and "I Like It There" and maybe two other joints that album needs to be forgotten...

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wow. Time seems to have been kind to C&D. Its barely an album and mainly a bunch of songs thrown together to get out of a contract and clearing out the decks for TGE. Other than I Will and Same December, I barely think of it. At the time it was hands down known as the "worst" prince album yet.

Verdict is still out on PE but at least its a more serious and cohesive set.

Ive never in 20 of years of C&D listened to the whole thing all the way through.. unless I put it on and fell asleep. PE is something I can listen to front to back without even thinking of skipping anything, which hasn't happened in a long time. PE (to me) is lightyears more coherent and solid an album than C&D.

murph said:

EnDoRpHn said:

My impression -- two or three solid cuts, lots of meandering and filler, others picking up the slack.

PE is not exactly setting the world on fire...But C&D nearly destroyed that man's career....lol....Beyond "Dinner With Delores" and "I Like It There" and maybe two other joints that album needs to be forgotten...

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I thought that as well until I played it a couple of years ago.

Aside from the focus on the guitar the albums are very different to me. But I can see how people would not share this sentiment.

Funnily enough I made this same comparison myself this morning on another forum I go on this morning. I feel its extremely close to Chaos & Disorder, throwaway funk rock and fun, very much like C&D. I see TicTacToe as this albums Dinner With Delores, a great little pop melody mixed in with the differrent vibe of the rest of the record.

Loving PE, not as much as Chaos but I'm in the minority here in loving it far more than AOA

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take the good 9 tracks on PE put em with the good 3 tracks on AOA and u have a great album.

I find me liking more tracks on PE than AOA

I am not sure if that is because I have already rinsed Clouds, U Know and BReakfast Cant Wait before listening to the AOA album therefore PE is fresher

SuperSoulFighter said:

I've only listened to Plectrum about three tiimes, but it seems to me that only Marz has the swagger of anything on C&D.

Chaos is much better. It's just NOBODY ever actually listened to it to find out. Since it came out in the days of physical cd releases, I just give it the "spots test." If the back of the cd is spotless, it has likely not been listened to. At used cd stores, the Chaos discs are spotless. The 1999, PR, SOTT usually have some scuffs on them.

Now I actually like the comparisons, as they are both rock albums. Stop This Train would've been much better with Prince on vocals...but nothing on PE can compare to Into The Light/I Will. And the first 3 tracks on C&D are hard to top...Pretzel Booty Logic anyone? Really? The live version on the horrible release party wasn't bad, but the wimpy cheerleader chant is beyond cringe-worthy, and let's face it, the song borrows a bit too heavily from "Ironman."

BobGeorge909 said:

SuperSoulFighter said:

These two albums have nothing in common except that they were recorded by the same artist. Chaos & Disorder was recorded to get out of his contract while PlectrumErectum was recorded to show off his new girl band.

One was recorded in a week according to reports and one over the length of time it takes to grow a fro.

u mean a "real" fro or off-the-rack?

I think the rock tracks on the album sound more like the rock tracks on Musicology than the rock tracks on Chaos & Disorder.

That bears well for PE then because on release many were luke warm to scathing of C&D but it has only gotten more and more popular as it aged.

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