fnksoul said:

funkyhead said:

wow, i am impressed. O.K. Daft question are your figures Global or USA only?

[hope u r well btw dude!]

Pretty sure they were global sales but may be wrong, Will search my history when i get home, cant for the life of me find the page again in my work browser!

aye good ta mate you?

not 3 bad! Send me an org note, must meet up etc when next in town. Hope u r enjoying the albums, i'm blown away!

Does anyone know the REAL total sells of A.O.A, since the pre-order started????

Unfortunately, the new albums are huge flops out of the gate. By now, Warner Bros must be regretting its partnership with him.

[Edited 10/7/14 14:37pm]

RODSERLING said:

alandail said:

Are you sure your numbers include digital sales and are not just CD sales? If the numbers you quoted are only CD sales, the digital totals posted are certainly possible as digital accounts for the vast majority of sales.

Total sales : digital + physical copies, even preorder.

The US figure, still not complete is an estimation but really accurate.

The daily charts on UK, US and Japan showed that Prince charted higher the fisrt days of release, in the end of the week, Prince charts lower.

Why ? Because every prince's fan buy the CDs the first day, the other day it's just casual fans or consumers.

on the other hand, they most likely do not include sales through the WB website, or the official ordering pages, which were the outlets primarily promoted.

Identity said:

Unfortunately, the new albums are huge flops out of the gate. By now, Warner Bros must be regretting its partnership with him.

[Edited 10/7/14 14:37pm]

The new albums are NOT a flop! Barbera Streisand did way more promotion & she didn't sell very much herself. Muziq is just not selling much like it use to. did virtually no appearances besides his live webcast & still sold a respectable number.

U peeps are so negative & always quick to put out to pasture, like he is a has been lounge act or something. When just a few months ago he SOLD OUT a 50,000 seat ARENA!!!

Thank God he doesn't care what any of U fairweather fans think...

Replica said:

No promotion, no shows, no public appearance, no nothing after the release of the albums that would keep people interested in times where everything disappears in this information age where everything is competing for attention. Not surprised at all that the sales are low. The album is pretty damn good, and he got mostly good to great reviews. The last couple years ha really marked the death of album sales. Spotify and similar streaming apps are enormously popular, and most people don't pay for music anymore.

My sentiments exactly. I've loved lots of low sellers before. The truth is that much of Prince's fabulous years post-Purple Rain and up to Lovesexy were largely huge commercial disappointments at the time. All got many less than glowing reviews and even SOTT wasn't universally heralded at first, it just grew in stature over that year (with U Got the Look and eventually the concert film).

Now most of this music is considered classic but then just like today, Prince remains a press agent's nightmare.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Identity said:

Unfortunately, the new albums are huge flops out of the gate. By now, Warner Bros must be regretting its partnership with him.

[Edited 10/7/14 14:37pm]

The new albums are NOT a flop! Barbera Streisand did way more promotion & she didn't sell very much herself. Muziq is just not selling much like it use to. did virtually no appearances besides his live webcast & still sold a respectable number.

U peeps are so negative & always quick to put out to pasture, like he is a has been lounge act or something. When just a few months ago he SOLD OUT a 50,000 seat ARENA!!!

Thank God he doesn't care what any of U fairweather fans think...

How dare you call me a fairweather fan after I bought one those shitty, overpriced mugs last month on 3EG.com!

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Barbera Streisand did way more promotion & she didn't sell very much herself.

Oh really? In its debut week,Barbra's album topped US sales charts, selling over 196,000 copies. It slipped to No. 3 with 127,000 in second week, the lowest second week decline for a No. 1 debuting album since the week ending Feb. 16. Remarkably, Streisand has the smallest second-week drop for an album by an artist in almost four years.

all things considered,I'd say that Barbra's album is a hit.

feeluupp said:

LW	TW	artist / album		label	sales index	% change
--	1	BLAKE SHELTON		WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE	101,841	--
		BRINGING BACK THE SUNSHINE
--	2	LADY ANTEBELLUM		CAPITOL NASHVILLE	72,938	--
		747
3	3	BARBRA STREISAND		COLUMBIA	71,932	-44%
		PARTNERS
1	4	TONY BENNETT & LADY GAGA		COLUMBIA/INTERSCOPE	54,909	-58%
		CHEEK TO CHEEK
--	5	PRINCE		NPG/WARNER BROS.	43,200	--
		ART OFFICIAL AGE
2	6	KENNY CHESNEY		BLUE CHAIR/COLUMBIA NASH	40,182	-69%
		THE BIG REVIVAL
9	7	MAROON 5		222/INTERSCOPE	33,852	+33%
		V
--	8	THE SCRIPT		COLUMBIA	24,321	--
		NO SOUND WITHOUT SILENCE
6	9	CHRIS BROWN		RCA	22,362	-37%
		X
--	10	PRINCE & 3RDEYEGIRL		NPG/WARNER BROS.	21,524	--

Are those teh final numbers? Did Prince have two top 10 albums?

feeluupp said:

LW	TW	artist / album		label	sales index	% change
--	1	BLAKE SHELTON		WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE	101,841	--
		BRINGING BACK THE SUNSHINE
--	2	LADY ANTEBELLUM		CAPITOL NASHVILLE	72,938	--
		747
3	3	BARBRA STREISAND		COLUMBIA	71,932	-44%
		PARTNERS
1	4	TONY BENNETT & LADY GAGA		COLUMBIA/INTERSCOPE	54,909	-58%
		CHEEK TO CHEEK
--	5	PRINCE		NPG/WARNER BROS.	43,200	--
		ART OFFICIAL AGE
2	6	KENNY CHESNEY		BLUE CHAIR/COLUMBIA NASH	40,182	-69%
		THE BIG REVIVAL
9	7	MAROON 5		222/INTERSCOPE	33,852	+33%
		V
--	8	THE SCRIPT		COLUMBIA	24,321	--
		NO SOUND WITHOUT SILENCE
6	9	CHRIS BROWN		RCA	22,362	-37%
		X
--	10	PRINCE & 3RDEYEGIRL		NPG/WARNER BROS.	21,524	--

Wow! Where did you get this from?... Will be interesting to see how much Vinyl will be sold after that.

Less than 1 week AOA is #57 and PE is #154 on the U.S. iTUNES charts.

cloUwds said:

feeluupp said:

LW	TW	artist / album		label	sales index	% change
--	1	BLAKE SHELTON		WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE	101,841	--
		BRINGING BACK THE SUNSHINE
--	2	LADY ANTEBELLUM		CAPITOL NASHVILLE	72,938	--
		747
3	3	BARBRA STREISAND		COLUMBIA	71,932	-44%
		PARTNERS
1	4	TONY BENNETT & LADY GAGA		COLUMBIA/INTERSCOPE	54,909	-58%
		CHEEK TO CHEEK
--	5	PRINCE		NPG/WARNER BROS.	43,200	--
		ART OFFICIAL AGE
2	6	KENNY CHESNEY		BLUE CHAIR/COLUMBIA NASH	40,182	-69%
		THE BIG REVIVAL
9	7	MAROON 5		222/INTERSCOPE	33,852	+33%
		V
--	8	THE SCRIPT		COLUMBIA	24,321	--
		NO SOUND WITHOUT SILENCE
6	9	CHRIS BROWN		RCA	22,362	-37%
		X
--	10	PRINCE & 3RDEYEGIRL		NPG/WARNER BROS.	21,524	--

Wow! Where did you get this from?... Will be interesting to see how much Vinyl will be sold after that.

This is from hitsdailydouble.The Billboard charts will be out tomorrow.

HITS Daily Double: Buildi...ales Chart

feeluupp said:

in this digital age, the playlist and streaming are king. Album sales are probably a dying breed. A true barometer of chart success would be to count the number of listens to a song on sites like Spotify along with individual song downloads.

Would be interesting to see how many downloads of the prereleased songs there were for each album.

Hmm So my apologies, it does seem them figures from iTunes I found were incorrect.

Still he scored a respectable 8th and 11th in the UK Album chart overall, goes to show his shows here paid off a little even if its not great numbers of sales, neither are any other albums these days. #

You cant really say they are flops when for someone to have such a long absence from the charts who isn't massive in peoples minds these days with little promo work done it isnt too bad.

Imagine if he had done promo though? Its a shame and maybe a bit of a kick in the teeth to Warner Brothers and he knows this I'd imagine.

Can't help but think if he had done Glasto this year he may have occupied the number 1 spot? Its a massive audience to reach.

LW	TW	artist / album		label	sales index	% change
--	1	BLAKE SHELTON		WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE	101,841	--
		BRINGING BACK THE SUNSHINE
--	2	LADY ANTEBELLUM		CAPITOL NASHVILLE	72,938	--
		747
3	3	BARBRA STREISAND		COLUMBIA	71,932	-44%
		PARTNERS
1	4	TONY BENNETT & LADY GAGA		COLUMBIA/INTERSCOPE	54,909	-58%
		CHEEK TO CHEEK
--	5	PRINCE		NPG/WARNER BROS.	43,200	--
		ART OFFICIAL AGE
2	6	KENNY CHESNEY		BLUE CHAIR/COLUMBIA NASH	40,182	-69%
		THE BIG REVIVAL
9	7	MAROON 5		222/INTERSCOPE	33,852	+33%
		V
--	8	THE SCRIPT		COLUMBIA	24,321	--
		NO SOUND WITHOUT SILENCE
6	9	CHRIS BROWN		RCA	22,362	-37%
		X
--	10	PRINCE & 3RDEYEGIRL		NPG/WARNER BROS.	21,524	--

really sold 64,724 copies! If U combine both albums. Which are both really his. That is really good, with virtually no tv appearances or having to leave his Paisley Park complex. Besides sending 3RDEYEGIRL out to do innerviews & minor overseas appearances. He is sitting pretty.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

really sold 64,724 copies! If U combine both albums. Which are both really his. That is really good, with virtually no tv appearances or having to leave his Paisley Park complex. Besides sending 3RDEYEGIRL out to do innerviews & minor overseas appearances. He is sitting pretty.

AOA will never reach the 100 k mark in the US. That's a big failure, promotion or not. It will be out of all top 40 in the world next week, probably some sort of record.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

really sold 64,724 copies! If U combine both albums. Which are both really his. That is really good, with virtually no tv appearances or having to leave his Paisley Park complex. Besides sending 3RDEYEGIRL out to do innerviews & minor overseas appearances. He is sitting pretty.

Prince wouldnt get out of bed for the money that those numbers generate.

AOA and PE sold 55 % of the week sales on the first day...

It's amazing how much you (Rosderling) care about Prince NOT having success whatsoever. I've lost count of your "hate" statements on different topics on here. Beats me why people like you are doing on a Prince fan site.

Marco81 said:

It's amazing how much you (Rosderling) care about Prince NOT having success whatsoever. I've lost count of your "hate" statements on different topics on here. Beats me why people like you are doing on a Prince fan site.

You don't get it at all. As much as i don't like theses 2 shits, I'm really disappointed by the low sales. I'm just reporting, predicting, analizing and commenting sales as they are. That's all. I'm not gonna say "yes that's amazing ! 60 k sales with 2 albums the 1st week ! wonderful numbers !".

I predicted here from the start that it was a big mistake marketingly talking to release 2 albums the same day, to not release a single and a video one month before the release of the albums, etc.

People here were like "shut your fuck up, Warner knows so much better than you, the industry changed, etc." pfff.

Because of this low sales we can say goodbye to :

- the reedition of PR with extra material AND huge promotion

- the reedition of all the prince catalogue at WB with extra material

- new albums from Prince in physical form

WB should have been, like I said, release the PR reedition first this summer, creating a buzz, and then months after the two albums, with making Prince sign a contract stating he has the obligations to :

- shoot a new music video

- perform on tv

- make a worldwide tour

in 3 words : promote the album

cloUwds said:

feeluupp said:

LW	TW	artist / album		label	sales index	% change
--	1	BLAKE SHELTON		WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE	101,841	--
		BRINGING BACK THE SUNSHINE
--	2	LADY ANTEBELLUM		CAPITOL NASHVILLE	72,938	--
		747
3	3	BARBRA STREISAND		COLUMBIA	71,932	-44%
		PARTNERS
1	4	TONY BENNETT & LADY GAGA		COLUMBIA/INTERSCOPE	54,909	-58%
		CHEEK TO CHEEK
--	5	PRINCE		NPG/WARNER BROS.	43,200	--
		ART OFFICIAL AGE
2	6	KENNY CHESNEY		BLUE CHAIR/COLUMBIA NASH	40,182	-69%
		THE BIG REVIVAL
9	7	MAROON 5		222/INTERSCOPE	33,852	+33%
		V
--	8	THE SCRIPT		COLUMBIA	24,321	--
		NO SOUND WITHOUT SILENCE
6	9	CHRIS BROWN		RCA	22,362	-37%
		X
--	10	PRINCE & 3RDEYEGIRL		NPG/WARNER BROS.	21,524	--

Wow! Where did you get this from?... Will be interesting to see how much Vinyl will be sold after that.

Vinyl = 3% of music sold. In the US market, it would give : 1300 for AOA and 650 for PE. It seems unlikely WB will be crazy enough to print theses vinyls, anywhere in the world, especially with the feud they surely have now.

Makes me wonder why, seeing the low numbers of the top ten, billboard doesn't count the sales of the vinyl in the total. Sales would be a little bit higher.

prince has 2 top ten albums in the same week in the usa...japan...holland and switzerland..aoa is top ten in most charts around the world...how is this a flop ?...cds are not selling anymore...i didnt realise that cd sales had fallen soo much in the last few years but i doubt online sales at warners are included in these figures...streaming from spotify and other sites isnt included..

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prince sold over 180,000 copies of lotusflower in the first week in the usa...so his sales have fallen nearly 75 per cent in five years..so prince fans are getting their music from other sources now...the same for the music industry in general...it wont be long before cds are withdrawn altogether and charts will be compiled from downloads and streaming which should give us a more accurate picture of what people are buying and listening to.

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i said years ago that a download fee should be added to internet access which allows you to download whatever you want..music..movies..whatever...and the fee should be distributed to the copyright owners depending on the amount of downloads people make of their product..this is the only workable way to do it imo..and would hopefully stop artists like prince from being so anal about his music being freely available on the internet.

[Edited 10/8/14 6:30am]

[Edited 10/8/14 6:31am]

blackbob said:

prince has 2 top ten albums in the same week in the usa...japan...holland and switzerland..aoa is top ten in most charts around the world...how is this a flop ?...cds are not selling anymore...i didnt realise that cd sales had fallen soo much in the last few years but i doubt online sales at warners are included in these figures...streaming from spotify and other sites isnt included..

.

prince sold over 180,000 copies of lotusflower in the first week in the usa...so his sales have fallen nearly 75 per cent in five years..so prince fans are getting their music from other sources now...the same for the music industry in general...it wont be long before cds are withdrawn altogether and charts will be compiled from downloads and streaming which should give us a more accurate picture of what people are buying and listening to.

.

i said years ago that a download fee should be added to internet access which allows you to download whatever you want..music..movies..whatever...and the fee should be distributed to the copyright owners depending on the amount of downloads people make of their product..this is the only workable way to do it imo..and would hopefully stop artists like prince from being so anal about his music being freely available on the internet.

[Edited 10/8/14 6:30am]

[Edited 10/8/14 6:31am]

With a music video, performance tv, tv ads, a real presence in social media, a hit in the top 40, and only one album released, Prince would have topped the charts with more than 100 k this week.

LOTUS FLOWER benefited from much more promotion.

With chart based on streaming, Prince would not be relevant anymore. Physical sales is what he needs to be on top.

Top FNAC (greatest retailer OF MUSIC in France) sales for the week of 29 september

#3 AOA

PE not in the top 10.

AOA and PE were #2 and #3 on amazon.fr during the week of release.