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Thread started 09/22/14 5:40am

KingSausage

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What song did Prince butcher the most by the time of its release?

Looking at songs as they were initially conceived or recorded compared to how they sounded when they were actually released, I think Prince butchered Tick Tick Bang more than any other song. The original, unreleased version is fantastic. The version released on GB is a partial birth abortion set to music. It's fucking terrible. Add the "video" (shitty scene from the shitty movie) and it just gets worse.

What's your pick for Most Butchered Song?
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Reply #1 posted 09/22/14 5:42am

thedance

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Extraloveable is fantastic.. worship

The re-load version is terrible IMHO......... cry

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[Edited 9/22/14 5:43am]

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Reply #2 posted 09/22/14 5:53am

thedance

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About Graffiti Bridge


also:

We Can Funk &
Can't Stop This Feeling I Got
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the originals are so much better.... heart

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Reply #3 posted 09/22/14 6:00am

WorldofPeace

thedance said:

About Graffiti Bridge


also:

We Can Funk &
Can't Stop This Feeling I Got
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the originals are so much better.... heart

I like the album version of Can't stop this feeling i got, I like the unreleased version of Soft & Wet(2) more than the album version , it seems more funky to me , but i ain't saying he butchered the released version biggrin

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Reply #4 posted 09/22/14 6:01am

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Endorphinemachine.

Probably one of his GREATEST songs from the 90's and yet he managed to give it a keyboard massacre for the Gold release. mad

Thank goodness for crystal clear bootlegs. cool
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Reply #5 posted 09/22/14 6:17am

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Gold. The unreleased version is way better. The released TGE version's keyboards are ridiculous.
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Reply #6 posted 09/22/14 6:39am

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I'd love to hear the version of Lovesexy described by Eric Leeds, before the layers of production were added. From the way he described it, the album was radically different at one point. I love the album as it is, but always interested in alternate versions and different permutations. I agree with Tick Tick Bang, the original had such punch and more urgency, sometimes it is better to go with your original gut feeling and not over think things.
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Reply #7 posted 09/22/14 6:55am

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Data Bank. The Revolution version is a live groove with a sense of fun that sounds like no one else, the released Time version is just a mess of try-hard rubbish. Didn't even realise there was a good song in there until I heard the bootleg.

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Reply #8 posted 09/22/14 7:09am

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Too early to think, but off the top of my head..

Extralovable. Im not a fan of the reloaded, updated versions confused

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Reply #9 posted 09/22/14 7:19am

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old friends 4 sale...original is perfect as it is ...the released version ruins it completely..

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Reply #10 posted 09/22/14 7:25am

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I wouldn't count remakes like Tick Tick Bang, Large Room With No Light, Extra Lovable...all were at least 8 years old at the time, the last two over 25 years old.

Endorphinmachine is probably the biggest crime. In fact, most of the Gold Experience is overproduced. It would have been interesting to see what the album would have looked like had he not been fighting with Warners. Interactive, though not a perfect song, is better than We March. The interludes talking over the music was a huge crime. As bad as interludes are, they should never go over the music like in BJB...Jam & Lewis went crazy with interludes, and Prince likes to copy trends...so it is what it is.

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Reply #11 posted 09/22/14 7:33am

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stillwaiting said:

I wouldn't count remakes like Tick Tick Bang, Large Room With No Light, Extra Lovable...all were at least 8 years old at the time, the last two over 25 years old.



Endorphinmachine is probably the biggest crime. In fact, most of the Gold Experience is overproduced. It would have been interesting to see what the album would have looked like had he not been fighting with Warners. Interactive, though not a perfect song, is better than We March. The interludes talking over the music was a huge crime. As bad as interludes are, they should never go over the music like in BJB...Jam & Lewis went crazy with interludes, and Prince likes to copy trends...so it is what it is.



I always listen to the 10,000 Wallpaper (?) boot now instead of TGE or Come. It's just better.
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Reply #12 posted 09/22/14 7:39am

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stillwaiting said:

I wouldn't count remakes like Tick Tick Bang, Large Room With No Light, Extra Lovable...all were at least 8 years old at the time, the last two over 25 years old.

Endorphinmachine is probably the biggest crime. In fact, most of the Gold Experience is overproduced. It would have been interesting to see what the album would have looked like had he not been fighting with Warners. Interactive, though not a perfect song, is better than We March. The interludes talking over the music was a huge crime. As bad as interludes are, they should never go over the music like in BJB...Jam & Lewis went crazy with interludes, and Prince likes to copy trends...so it is what it is.

While I can't deny Endorphinmachine was miles better without the cowbell. The overall production on the Gold experience worked well I think. The shiney shiney production value was part of the albums theme. I also think the segues work very well - although they made more sense in the context of "The Dawn" triple cd set with songs correctly catagorised under each heading/segue.

His biggest crime in terms of butchering a song IMO - Everyday is a winding road. He took a great song both lyrically and musically and attempted to make it into a 1994 sounding house song. It just didn't work on any level.

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Reply #13 posted 09/22/14 7:41am

RODSERLING

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old friends 4 sale...original is perfect as it is ...the released version ruins it completely..

Never heard the original version, but I really love the official version. i don't understand the complaints about this one.

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Reply #14 posted 09/22/14 7:45am

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RODSERLING said:



blackbob said:


old friends 4 sale...original is perfect as it is ...the released version ruins it completely..



Never heard the original version, but I really love the official version. i don't understand the complaints about this one.


X2. He didn't butcher this one he altered it. That said the original sparse piano version is better imo.
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Reply #15 posted 09/22/14 7:57am

novabrkr

Oh, FunkNRoll. No doubt.

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Reply #16 posted 09/22/14 8:02am

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although maybe not fitting with the premise of your original post, i'd have to say 'purple house'. i can't believe the hendrix family released that turd.

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Reply #17 posted 09/22/14 8:05am

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Probably "Fury". That's the first one I thought of. The SNL live version was blistering hot but the studio version was bland and plastic.

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Reply #18 posted 09/22/14 8:21am

lombard

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Probably "Fury". That's the first one I thought of. The SNL live version was blistering hot but the studio version was bland and plastic.

I agree with this one !

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Reply #19 posted 09/22/14 8:29am

novabrkr

The studio version of "Fury" might have always been like that. He just did a more energetic live version of it on TV before the album was released and many fans were disappointed.

Regardless, I'd say the studio version fits the 3121 album better than any hypothetical all-out rock version of it. That way the track also reminded more of his own output with the 1999-style synths and it wasn't such a direct Hendrix homage track.

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Reply #20 posted 09/22/14 8:46am

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Farfunknugin said:

RODSERLING said:



blackbob said:


old friends 4 sale...original is perfect as it is ...the released version ruins it completely..



Never heard the original version, but I really love the official version. i don't understand the complaints about this one.


X2. He didn't butcher this one he altered it. That said the original sparse piano version is better imo.

Plus the lyrics are more personal, which is probably why he didn't want it out there.
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Reply #21 posted 09/22/14 8:48am

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novabrkr said:

Oh, FunkNRoll. No doubt.



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Reply #22 posted 09/22/14 9:12am

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thedance said:

About Graffiti Bridge


also:

We Can Funk &
Can't Stop This Feeling I Got
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the originals are so much better.... heart

We Can Funk on GB is the original version based off the 1982/83 version. The 1986 We Can Funk is the actual remake. I love both of them. As for Extralovable, Prince really screwed that one up. The original is pure classic Prince while the remake is garbage.

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Reply #23 posted 09/22/14 10:32am

novabrkr

The GB version of "We Can Funk" might be based on the original recording, but he must have added a whole lot that wasn't there originally. I doubt even the chorus ("I'm testing positive 4 the funk"...) was there in any form.

Not that I have anything against the GB version myself (hell, it's the best track from that time period that George Clinton is on), but I do prefer the DF era version.

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Reply #24 posted 09/22/14 10:40am

xpertluva

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Zannalee comes to mind.

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Reply #25 posted 09/22/14 11:15am

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Joy In Repetition without its intro on Graffiti Bridge.
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Reply #26 posted 09/22/14 11:27am

novabrkr

Just because of the intro? It's hardly that long. I wouldn't consider that "butchering".


The Linn sound was out by the time he did GB, so I can understand the need to update it. I'm not sure why he included the party chatter sequence from Lovesexy though.

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Reply #27 posted 09/22/14 11:29am

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Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic.

It sounds so good...on the Small Club boot.

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Reply #28 posted 09/22/14 12:01pm

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blackbob said:

old friends 4 sale...original is perfect as it is ...the released version ruins it completely..

yeahthat

Everybody stop on the 1...GOOD GOD! Uhh!
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Reply #29 posted 09/22/14 12:30pm

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SuperSoulFighter said:

Farfunknugin said:
X2. He didn't butcher this one he altered it. That said the original sparse piano version is better imo.
Plus the lyrics are more personal, which is probably why he didn't want it out there.


Yes, and now he's singing inane lyrics with the same passion. That's what makes the whole song -one of his greatest- completely ridiculous ...

And do the people who think the original Tick, Tick Bang also think the original Feel U Up, Irresistible Bitch, and U are better? Because then there's something wrong with you...

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