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Thread started 08/30/14 2:06pm

Se7en

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What's with all the gun references?

Ok, I found the gun reference in Fixurlifeup a little odd, not typical of Prince but at the same time not advocating or glamorizing guns.

Then another one in Pretzelbodylogic. One that almost tries to use guns for a "cool" factor.

Then, a third reference from the same era (this time from Prince's own song Clouds).

I'm just wondering why there are so many at the same time?



Fixurlifeup:

Lookin’ at the world through the barrel of a gun
Hands behind their back in a parked car

Pretzelbodylogic: Taste the bitter sweet, undone
Now we both too sleepy to get the gun


Clouds:

How do we engage?!
Bullying just for fun,
No wonder there's so many guns
Maybe we're better off in space!
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Reply #1 posted 08/30/14 2:20pm

MarcelS67

What is your point exactly?

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Reply #2 posted 08/30/14 2:23pm

Askani

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This is a guy who used to sing into a microphone shaped like a gun. shrug

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Reply #3 posted 08/30/14 2:37pm

Se7en

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MarcelS67 said:

What is your point exactly?



It's a question, not a point...wondering why there are so many gun references in his 2 new albums?

Is it the influence of much younger bandmates? Is it an attempt to sound "edgy"? Or is it a true social commentary? Even if it's the latter, 3 references is a bit much (no telling if there are still more on the album).
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Reply #4 posted 08/30/14 2:48pm

Love2tha9s

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I'd say its more of a statement on what he believes to be a culture with too many guns...if he's got that many references I guess he's really disturbed by it.

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Reply #5 posted 08/30/14 3:03pm

thedance

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also there's a 'Gun control' reference on the Controversy album cover.

plus Lovesign (the song) is about Gun control, isn't it??

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Reply #6 posted 08/30/14 3:27pm

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Or the gun in PR that his dad uses, Bob George and his 'it might be little but it's loud', or the gun that Papa uses to take aim and dies. They're horrible things, but really useful signifiers of power / violence / death that a writer in any art form can use - and I feel he uses the references well. If it's overuse then maybe it's getting towards cliche and lazy writing but I don't think so.

I think if we put our heads together we'd find a lot more gun references in his songs, it's about how the references are used and what they add or detract to the work as a whole. Living in the UK I'm listening to an American using the references so have to take on face value as being a reflection and a comment on the context and the society from which it is being produced.
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Reply #7 posted 08/30/14 3:46pm

iZsaZsa

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I think the noise at the end of "Gotta Broken Heart Again" is him blowing his brains out. He acts that out as well while on show for "Dolphin".
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Reply #8 posted 08/30/14 3:50pm

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iZsaZsa said:

I think the noise at the end of "Gotta Broken Heart Again" is him blowing his brains out.


eek lol

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Reply #9 posted 08/30/14 3:51pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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Askani said:

This is a guy who used to sing into a microphone shaped like a gun. shrug

yeah and by chance when i saw the cloud that looked like prince holding the gun mic i had to take a photo! Now it is my avatar!

But yeah Prince has a bunch of gun refrences in his songs... like he dose to money... weird

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Reply #10 posted 08/30/14 3:55pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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others: Litteral references: Sign O the Times Vicky Waiting My Name is Prince annie christianthe Future not litteral:love 2 the 9s

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Reply #11 posted 08/30/14 3:57pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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thedance said:

also there's a 'Gun control' reference on the Controversy album cover.

plus Lovesign (the song) is about Gun control, isn't it??

i do not think either was for gun control

In annie christian he seems to be saying that people react to things after the fact...someone gets shot then people cry gin control when the real problem is the person.

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Reply #12 posted 08/30/14 4:08pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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something is messed up with Editing!add to the listDance On!
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Reply #13 posted 08/30/14 4:08pm

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I think the older gun references had a contextual sophistication that's lacking from the new references (3EG and AOA). Now he just drops the word gun probably just for completing his bad rhymes.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Reply #14 posted 08/30/14 4:12pm

theblueangel

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From Days of Wild:

"I've got a tech 9 too, and it's called my brain

Shoot another brother, not today

Death from envy is the only way

I could tear shit up, y'all, that's my style

These are the days of wild."

There's another similar lyric in Judas Smile:

"Pinocchio mentality on levels more than nine

From now on, the only piece you'll ever get from me's my mind"

(It occurs to me that the Judas Smile lyric but be referring to his art as a "piece," but I always interpreted it as a gun).

No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.

Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Putting words in other people's mouths will only get you elected.

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Reply #15 posted 08/30/14 4:26pm

KingSausage

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There's at least one gun reference in Sex Shooter. smile
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Reply #16 posted 08/30/14 4:43pm

mikeyaddict

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No guns. No problem. No people to use the guns. No problem. Which of these can we actually remove from the equation?
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Reply #17 posted 08/30/14 4:59pm

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KingSausage said:

There's at least one gun reference in Sex Shooter. smile



lol

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Reply #18 posted 08/30/14 5:36pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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Postivity!

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Reply #19 posted 08/30/14 5:45pm

warning2all

-"Pop Pop Pop go the pistol/Bang Bang Bang go the gun!" (Love sign)

-"I got a Gun/ you think I don't?/Then What's this!?/Oh you quiet now!" (Bob George)

-"Uzi gun" (Dance On)

-Christopher Tracey gets shot (Under the Cherry Moon)

-Clarence Williams shoots himself (Purple Rain)

-"He shot John Lennon!/Shot him down cold!" (Annie Christian)

-"I shot the boy,huh/twice in the head" (Shy)

-"Tottin' a matching gun" (Sign o the Times)

Didn't then girl in Graffiti Bridge get shot by Morris Day?
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Reply #20 posted 08/30/14 5:50pm

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warning2all said:

-"Pop Pop Pop go the pistol/Bang Bang Bang go the gun!" (Love sign) -"I got a Gun/ you think I don't?/Then What's this!?/Oh you quiet now!" (Bob George) -"Uzi gun" (Dance On) -Christopher Tracey gets shot (Under the Cherry Moon) -Clarence Williams shoots himself (Purple Rain) -"He shot John Lennon!/Shot him down cold!" (Annie Christian) Didn't then girl in Graffiti Bridge get shot by Morris Day?

there is a controversy poster with Prince holding a gun

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Reply #21 posted 08/30/14 5:52pm

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warning2all said:

Didn't then girl in Graffiti Bridge get shot by Morris Day?


So you are thinking Moris shot her, and at the end Morris and Prince made up? lol
She was hit by a jeep lol

You might be confused. The kid did have a gun, As i recall at one point had thoughts of suicide

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Reply #22 posted 08/30/14 6:00pm

warning2all

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warning2all said:


Didn't then girl in Graffiti Bridge get shot by Morris Day?


So you are thinking Moris shot her, and at the end Morris and Prince made up? lol
She was hit by a jeep lol

You might be confused. The kid did have a gun, As i recall at one point had thoughts of suicide



Haha- you're right! I'm wrong. I thought Morris blew her away. Weird.

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Reply #23 posted 08/30/14 7:40pm

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I think the noise at the end of "Gotta Broken Heart Again" is him blowing his brains out.

I always wondered what that was.

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Reply #24 posted 08/30/14 8:07pm

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SoulAlive said:

iZsaZsa said:

I think the noise at the end of "Gotta Broken Heart Again" is him blowing his brains out.

I always wondered what that was.



I think it's a slamming door.

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Reply #25 posted 08/31/14 5:20am

iZsaZsa

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"Tony, shoot that piece of shit!" (The Flow)
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Reply #26 posted 08/31/14 5:46am

Se7en

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I've been a fan since 1982 (1999). I know there are a lot of gun references in his 36 years of releasing albums.

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My question was why are there so many NOW? If you consider AOA and PE to be a somewhat joint release (with overlapping players, themes and even an overlapping song) then essentially you have 3 gun references in the same era. And also in 3 of the songs that were released first.

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Reply #27 posted 08/31/14 6:06am

iZsaZsa

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Se7en said:

I know there are a lot of gun references in his 36 years of releasing albums. My question was why are there so many NOW?

I don't understand. What has changed? Or why not now?
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Reply #28 posted 08/31/14 6:08am

thedoorkeeper

Gun = Penis
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Reply #29 posted 08/31/14 6:10am

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Se7en said:

I've been a fan since 1982 (1999). I know there are a lot of gun references in his 36 years of releasing albums.

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My question was why are there so many NOW? If you consider AOA and PE to be a somewhat joint release (with overlapping players, themes and even an overlapping song) then essentially you have 3 gun references in the same era. And also in 3 of the songs that were released first.

Maybe because there a lot of nutters shooting people in schools and a nine year old girl shoots a instructor with a Uzi in that accident.

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