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Thread started 08/31/14 10:35am

Blixical

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Can you name 3 albums after 1995

that are better than 3 albums before 1994?

Me:

3121 ---> better than Batman

lotusflow3r ----> better than For You boxed

Emancipation ----> better than D&P boxed

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Reply #1 posted 08/31/14 10:36am

Stymie

I agree with you on Lotus. I never listen to the For You album other than Soft and Wet.

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Reply #2 posted 08/31/14 10:43am

databank

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Blixical said:

that are better than 3 albums before 1994?

Me:

3121 ---> better than Batman

lotusflow3r ----> better than For You boxed

Emancipation ----> better than D&P boxed

I find it hard to determine what is "better" than what in an absolute, but according to my own personal standards at least, I do believe that Lotusflow3r is better than For You and that Emancipation is better than D&P. As for Batman and 3121, I couldn't choose really.

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Reply #3 posted 08/31/14 10:47am

glamstar01

Rainbow Children better than Graffiti Bridge

Lotusflower better than Diamonds & Pearls

Emancipation better than for You

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Reply #4 posted 08/31/14 11:16am

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glamstar01 said:

Rainbow Children better than Graffiti Bridge

Lotusflower better than Diamonds & Pearls

These, plus:

Chaos and Disorder > For You

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Reply #5 posted 08/31/14 2:11pm

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I'll give on Emancipation being than For You but that's it. hmph!

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #6 posted 08/31/14 2:28pm

Love2tha9s

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3121 better than Batman? no can do on that one. Its the one out of the past 5 or so years when I go back and re-evaluate really nothing stands out to me on it. Sorta just right at or a lil' above average to me. Batman gets a lot of crap these days and a lot of people seem to hate on it but from the time I got it on tape till now when I have it on cd I really used to love and still really like that cd. I think only one song on it I constantly could skip and I can't say that about some later day albums.

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Reply #7 posted 08/31/14 3:23pm

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Love2tha9s said:

3121 better than Batman? no can do on that one. Its the one out of the past 5 or so years when I go back and re-evaluate really nothing stands out to me on it. Sorta just right at or a lil' above average to me. Batman gets a lot of crap these days and a lot of people seem to hate on it but from the time I got it on tape till now when I have it on cd I really used to love and still really like that cd. I think only one song on it I constantly could skip and I can't say that about some later day albums.

Electric Chair is a phenomenal song

If Prince came out with Batman now, I'd be more than happy. Great album

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Reply #8 posted 08/31/14 3:41pm

thedance

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I say no as well:

3121 is weak...... 5/10, and that's even a little too high, I only really like 2-3 songs there. Black Sweat and maybe the title track.

Batman is a lot better. Not as great as Lovesexy and the previous - but Batman is still a very good album.


Scandalous, Partyman, The Future, Vicki Waiting.. great songs. And the rest is good as well.

Batdance sounds like nothing else in this world, I love the collage of dialogue from the film, and the funky music. I have always loved Jack Nicholson and his voice suits Batdance in a fantastic way... I have great memories to 1989.

Batman is a 8/10 album imo. music

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Reply #9 posted 08/31/14 6:43pm

TrevorAyer

NO! Impossible! They simply don't exist. Not by a long shot. No chance in hell!

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Reply #10 posted 08/31/14 7:42pm

callimnate

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Thats a big NO!

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Reply #11 posted 08/31/14 9:58pm

novabrkr

Blixical said:

that are better than 3 albums before 1994?

Me:

3121 ---> better than Batman

lotusflow3r ----> better than For You boxed

Emancipation ----> better than D&P boxed


Well, yeah, no disagreement on those.

Not sure why there's a need for the boxed icon.

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Reply #12 posted 08/31/14 11:58pm

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For me, I would choose The Rainbow Children, Lotusflower, Old Friends 4 Sale, ONA (piano and voice) and even Xpectation over a few albums that predate 1995. And I'm not even going to use the box icon! biggrin I guess it's just a matter of personal taste.

[Edited 9/1/14 0:07am]

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Reply #13 posted 09/01/14 2:58am

funkaholic1972

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1. The Rainbow Children is better than D&P, although some individual tracks are really good on that last album.

2. 20Ten is better than For You

3. Errrr....

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Reply #14 posted 09/01/14 3:13am

thisisreece

The Rainbow Children is better than Love Symbol (and a lot of pre 1995 albums)

Lotusflower is better than Diamonds and Pearls

3121 is better than For You

The Vault: Old Friends 4 Sale is better than Batman

Hundalasiliah!
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Reply #15 posted 09/01/14 3:33am

Bambi82

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It's hard to say what's "better" but for me, I prefer Chaos over For You and Graffiti Bridge.

Everybody stop on the 1...GOOD GOD! Uhh!
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Reply #16 posted 09/01/14 3:39am

RODSERLING

I will never understand the diss about BATMAN and DP, and the love of LOTUSFLOWER, a very weak album (3 instrumentals that seem to be sampled directly from an erotic movie, 1 cover (CRIMSON AND CLOVER), a low dynamic range, DREAMER much better on live, etc.).

BATMAN is a fantastic soundtrack, very tied to the movie and its spirit.

DP is a very ecclectic album, lyrically and musically both album are Prince at its best. SACANDALOUS is maybe my all time favourite song.

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Reply #17 posted 09/01/14 3:53am

MIRvmn

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TRC is better than D&P
Lotusflow3r is better than Batman
Emancipation is better than For You
Welcome 2 The Dawn
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Reply #18 posted 09/01/14 5:22am

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Reply #19 posted 09/01/14 6:28am

novabrkr

Emancipation is better than For You, Prince (s/t), Batman OST, Graffiti Bridge, D&P, Symbol and Come.

TRC is better than For You, Prince (s/t), Batman OST, Graffiti Bridge, D&P, Symbol and Come. I'm a bit undecided on if it's better than ATWIAD, but it's close to a tie at least.

All of the albums he's released after TRC are at least better than For You and Prince (s/t) (c'mon, the first two albums really are cheesy). Many of them are better than Batman OST and Graffiti Bridge (as albums, because as much as I like about 50% of the songs on Batman OST and Graffiti Bridge, they're pretty pointless as album releases).

Rave is better than Prince (s/t), which I think is his weakest album along with NPS.

Wasn't that hard.

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Reply #20 posted 09/01/14 6:31am

novabrkr

Oh yeah, I forgot Chaos & Disorder and The Truth. They're both better than the first two albums.

Crystal Ball has some of the best songs he's released after SOTT (mainly the SOTT era outtakes wink ).

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Reply #21 posted 09/01/14 9:12am

Blixical

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novabrkr said:

Blixical said:

that are better than 3 albums before 1994?

Me:

3121 ---> better than Batman

lotusflow3r ----> better than For You boxed

Emancipation ----> better than D&P boxed


Well, yeah, no disagreement on those.

Not sure why there's a need for the boxed icon.

The box emoticon is because there are fans umong us who would chop into little pieces and boil me in a brothy soup.

มีเพียงความว่างเปล่า rose 只有空虚 rose Dim ond gwacter rose 만 공허함이있다 rose 唯一の虚しさがあります wilted There is only the void.
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Reply #22 posted 09/01/14 9:54am

databank

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Blixical said:

novabrkr said:


Well, yeah, no disagreement on those.

Not sure why there's a need for the boxed icon.

The box emoticon is because there are fans umong us who would chop into little pieces and boil me in a brothy soup.

Misleading thread title BTW? I first thought u just asked if we could name 3 albums after 1995, PERIOD, and I thought "Wow! I'll be damned if there's someone here who can't!"

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Reply #23 posted 09/01/14 10:07am

novabrkr

Is it really that unusual for the fans that they prefer Emancipation over D&P, for example? I'd estimate that about 50% of the fans prefer Emancipation and about 50% prefer D&P. I can't be too far off with that one. The appreciation for D&P has certainly diminished over the years.

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Reply #24 posted 09/01/14 3:34pm

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3 albums worth mentioning are the Rainbow Children, N.E.W.S and One Night Alone

B.t.w. I have it on good authority that Emancipation has been used a form of torture on prisoners in the wars in the middle east. Detainees seemed to break very fast hearing that album. Only few managed to hold out information until the 3rd disc. But even U.S. officials stopped using the album because it had a "too severe inpact" on the long term mental health of the people.

Whenever I realy feel I've messed things up and I feel really useless than I always listen to a few tracks of that album and realise that even the best of us fuck shit up every now and then.

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Reply #25 posted 09/01/14 3:41pm

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I can't tell you which is "better" than which. I can only tell you what I prefer.

"Good", "better", "best", "bad", "worse", "worst" - all subjective.
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Reply #26 posted 09/14/14 4:24pm

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Yep. Co-signing on 'Batman' which was an 'event' probably more than any other Prince album because it obviously had this larger context of up until that point in history, the largest grossing film of all time. I had just finished college for the summer and was bound for foreign lands on the release-day and was freaking because I wouldn't be able to have time to get the album, come home, tape it and then go on my journey. So for onl the second time, I bought an album on cassette, hit play on the coach to the ship to the new city and basically didn't stop playing it for about 7 months. That album, the movie and the singles became part of an odyssey including finding a girl who was just as into Prince and all sorts of incredible milestones with each release like the Mark Moore Batdance remix (VERY hard to get hold of), the 'Arms of Orion'/'Feel U Up' snack and the sensational Purple Party Mix on the Partyman 12" which I debuted late one night from a balcony VERY LOUD to great approval from neighbours (the track seemed to go on forever).
Add to that auxiliaries like catching every occurence of the Batdance video on TV, the 60's Batman TV shows which were being re-run every morning, the 'Electric Chair' and 'Partyman' premieres on MTV (which had my girlfriend WETTING HERSELF with excitement) and then the incredible AUGUST 11 Batman movie premiere at a cinema full of smokin' jamaicans and not fogetting The Scandalous Sex Suite which was the ultimate 'sex record' (I can still se the shock on my gf's face when she said 'OMG Prince is giving Kim Basinger an orgasm!')
I mean...PURLEASE....this was a never to be repeated extravaganza of Princedom extraordinaire!

More than any of the tracks, 'Trust' can still pump endorphins via time travel from that period for me. I can taste and smell phantom lingerings if that track comes on anywhere at any time.

And long long long after it was all over, I had a rebirth of plaing it a lot after someone posted that 'Electric Chair' SNL performance on YouTube wich I had never seen. Still my absolute top Prince on TV moment.



Can't understand why anybody was down on it. It was SENSATIONAL

And I must say that 3121 did remind me of it in many ways.
I'LL TAKE TWO!!





Love2tha9s said:

3121 better than Batman? no can do on that one. Its the one out of the past 5 or so years when I go back and re-evaluate really nothing stands out to me on it. Sorta just right at or a lil' above average to me. Batman gets a lot of crap these days and a lot of people seem to hate on it but from the time I got it on tape till now when I have it on cd I really used to love and still really like that cd. I think only one song on it I constantly could skip and I can't say that about some later day albums.

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Reply #27 posted 09/14/14 5:25pm

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The real question is whether or not I like Graffiti Bridge more than anything after 1995, and, while I actually like it, I'd struggle to find anything after 1995 that I like less than Graffiti Bridge other than Planet Earth and New Power Soul, and even that would be a toss-up. With that said, I like Lotusflow3r/MPLS more than I like Graffiti Bridge, The Rainbow Children more than I like The Gold Experience, Parade, or Come, and I like Emancipation more than I like For You and Come, but just barely.

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I will add that this is an interesting question because it really is an analysis of songs versus concepts. For instance, there is nothing I like on The Rainbow Children more than I like "Kiss," "Girls and Boys," and "Anotherloverholnyohead," but TRC is just funkier, more consistent, and has more interesting songs than Parade for my tastes.

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Reply #28 posted 09/14/14 6:25pm

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Ohh, I simply couldn't answer that question! smile To me, it's kind of like asking, "Which of your younger children do you like better than your older children?"...& I couldn't possibly prefer any post-'95 Prince albums--let alone 3--over his pre-'95 albums, because I love them ALL so very, very much... biggrin

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