OldFriends4Sale said:

I don't know a point where one becomes a real musician. so I suppose I should shut up.

But....lol...

Beyomd the obvious like Milli vanilli.....prince is trying to draw a distinction between people like him and...I unno...Justin bieber? He sings and prolly play keys or guitar or summin. But beyond skill level, there r clear distinctions. I think saying 'real' addresses the obvious but is also addresses the rookies who seemingly dont care about or care to lean more about the craft of music...its impact, its history, or its possibilities. Some use rudimentary skill as an avenue to fame and leave it at that. I think he's speaking more to that than complete, obvious fakers for which it too obvious to bother to state.

I've prolly repeated myself, prolly cuz I don't know clearly how to say what I'm thinking. So I wouldn't be offense if its taken with a grain of salt and/or ignored....lol...
I don't consider myself a real musician even tho I can play several instruments with some degree of proficiency because I don't intend to expound up that or take it anywhere or do anything even slightly constructive. ....imma just fart around with it.

Maybe I'm wrong to classify it as such...I unno...

Randomely found a photo of the hallway with the Rolling Stone cover blown up.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/64285153@N00/3035779569/in/photostream/

OldFriends4Sale said:

I understand your frustration. One shouldn't have to put so much thought into figuring out what someone says vs. what they actually mean, or the intent behind certain statements. It doesn't bother me to much tho. I think I do similar things often, that may be why it doesn't bug me much. I shouldn't do stuff like that...its not an effective way to communicate....but it sho can be fun...

babynoz said:

IstenSzek said:

it's funny how we've 'got nothing better in our lives', because we like to

talk about his past - which isn't even completely unrelated to the 'now',

since he's releasing a PR remaster this year - yet he's in the studio at

paisley park with Bobby Z and Taja Sevelle (and probably Elisa wasn't

far away either), walking along a corridor that literally has a timeline of

his carreer in pictures and awards

LOL....I think that we are the only two who noticed that.

He should be careful with his snarky statements though because while he is blessed with the talent to earn his living as a musician, what else does he himself really have in his life?

Jehovah don't like ugly.

Regarding the topic of Purple Rain 30th anniversary... Prince could simply show gratitude and keep it moving. Surprised that he actually connected with Apollonia while she was in town. Do you think Prince and Apollonia snapped a photo together, on the motorcycle from Purple Rain, while she was at Paisley?

IstenSzek said:

babynoz said:

LOL....I think that we are the only two who noticed that.

He should be careful with his snarky statements though because while he is blessed with the talent to earn his living as a musician, what else does he himself really have in his life?

Jehovah don't like ugly.

Oh I noticed that too, it's just like come on Prince

BobGeorge909 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

yeah it makes you a liar lol

Sometimes I'm late for work, is accurate

No not everything at face value Prince has says a lot of riddled things I know not to.

Then the 'I don't look back' 'real musicians thing is a lot different

Yes he should find a better way of saying it.

If he is focused on the now and only emphasizing that, do you think he is working on the remasters?

I understand your frustration. One shouldn't have to put so much thought into figuring out what someone says vs. what they actually mean, or the intent behind certain statements. It doesn't bother me to much tho. I think I do similar things often, that may be why it doesn't bug me much. I shouldn't do stuff like that...its not an effective way to communicate....but it sho can be fun...

lol no actually most things he does I just laugh at or brush off,

but those 2 statements are 2 he's been saying a lot and never really explaining what he means

the 'real' musicians I just don't know what he means -not really frustrated

the 'I don't go back' is just bs. of course PR is the crowning era of his lifetime and he's been running from it since. Everyone looks back, everyone borrows from our own pasts, everyone tryings to recapture something of our past or run from.

I remember back during the rel of Lotusflow3r he had John Blackwell and another person in listening to the music compare it to Controversy...

BobGeorge909 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

So when do you think one become a 'real musician'?

I'm asking because this is really about being creative being an artist

I mean he had Andy Allo on stage 'with real musicians' and it seems you could do just as much or more than Andy Allo (not trying to put her down at all) but she held the guitar more than played it, and played a tamborine more than the guitar she held.

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I know lots of people that can handle themselves on an instrument put aren't looking to be on stage or get a record deal.

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My point originally was if a person is alive and not a robot or alien, and can play an instrument it makes them a real musician (it was being playful) but the only musicians who are not 'real musicians' are those who can't actually play and are fronting themselves publically to be when a computer may be doing the work

I don't know a point where one becomes a real musician. so I suppose I should shut up. But....lol... Beyomd the obvious like Milli vanilli.....prince is trying to draw a distinction between people like him and...I unno...Justin bieber? He sings and prolly play keys or guitar or summin. But beyond skill level, there r clear distinctions. I think saying 'real' addresses the obvious but is also addresses the rookies who seemingly dont care about or care to lean more about the craft of music...its impact, its history, or its possibilities. Some use rudimentary skill as an avenue to fame and leave it at that. I think he's speaking more to that than complete, obvious fakers for which it too obvious to bother to state. I've prolly repeated myself, prolly cuz I don't know clearly how to say what I'm thinking. So I wouldn't be offense if its taken with a grain of salt and/or ignored....lol... I don't consider myself a real musician even tho I can play several instruments with some degree of proficiency because I don't intend to expound up that or take it anywhere or do anything even slightly constructive. ....imma just fart around with it. Maybe I'm wrong to classify it as such...I unno...

lol ok I wish he would slow down a bit and instead of saying as a throw away statement on stage or such, really explain that 'real musicians' bit. During the 1997/98 he really did a good job explaining the ins & outs of music. He didn't seem rushed and was very articulate. Again, he also talked about ie reviewed songs he did previously the same way they just did for the Purple Rain soundtrack.

dbpdexter said:

Prince is a hipocrite.He didn't have any problems with anniversaries when he preformed with beyonce during the 20 anniversary...oh,but wait,that's when he was promoting and tying PR 20 anniversary in with musicology to promote his tour so it's alright to reminisce when theres money to be made,otherwise we all just don't have lives.Prince is out of touch and says things just because he thinks he sounds clever and mysterious.

this is true, he does the anniversary shows

I said the same, he may think he's sounding deep, but it just sounds disconnected to real life human experiences

He was talking about anniversaries when he was freshly married in 1997 too

laurarichardson said:

funksterr said:

The names change but the game stays the same. That reads an awful lot like the 3121 articles. Which themselves reads a lot like the Graffiti Bridge era Rolling Stone article or maybe it was Details magazine back then. Either way Prince is sooo busy, and he's surrounded by yes men. 3rdEyeGirl is referenced the same way The Game Boyz and NPG was back in the day. The Finding Nemo thing though is unsettling. To think adults, with no kids, are making rock music while watching Disney cartoons, is weird in a bad way. Like the story of Micheal Jackson carrying around a baby doll because he had no kids. Very WTF-ish. It could be a lot worse. Like Whitney Houston or Rick James worse, but still. I'm sure no one there actually wants to watch that fucking cartoon, but they KNOW, if they admit it, they are azz out. I'd bet the ass-kissing competition around Prince breeds some pretty intense competition. It's human nature. Some of those folks don't like each other, but they can't let Prince see it. "Who wants to watch Nemo, again?" "Ooh, I do, Prince, I totally do!" Can you imagine reporting for work, knowing the boss is going to make you watch FINDING FUCKIN NEMO and you have to pretend to be cool with it. He couldn't pay me enough to put up with that shit. "Hey, let's watch Nemo in our pajamas and play Monopoly!" "Yeah, let's get some milk and cookies." At some point Prince is going to pass out binkies and have everyone fitted for diapers. Can you imagine how two-faced these folks have to be to put up with Prince's shit? It just occurred to me, but everybody working for Prince has to be some slick MF's. They absolutely haaave to be.

He is not paying you or forcing you to pay attention to him. For all we know he has had everybody and their mama going on about Purple Rain this month. He just wants to move forward and their is nothing wrong with that if he went out on a PR reunion tour he would get trashed by most of the oh so talented and wise orgers as being a nostaglia act. He cannot win for losing with some of you.

Would love to see some of you get off the Purple boat and let the rest of us enjoy the remasters and the new music without the bitching and snarking.

how can you enjoy the new music and remasters of the Purple music when it's not out yet?

luv2tha99s said:

BobGeorge909 said:

OldFriends4Sale said: I can play songs, parts, and fiddle around. I'm not of a caliber, imo to perform or know music as a craft. I can cook, but i ain't no chef. I hadn't noticed the post. I wasn't trying to ignore you. My bad.

I'm in a similar situation myself. I play piano, guitar, drums, and futz around with music software. I'm not a PROFESSIONAL musician, but a "real musician" nonetheless. Just because I don't make money at it(yet), doesn't mean I'm not. Don't sell yourself short.

I agree, either you are real or not BobGeorge909 is a real musician

many people sing dance paint play for their own enjoyment and peace,

I don't think he was less of a real musician pre 1976 vs now

lwr001 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

well remember Prince didn't do a lot of interviews, so I doubt it between 1987-1989 I don't think he did any

And that interview in question, Prince brought up Let's Go Crazy, it was talking about the music freely (I noticed he was a lot more open during 1996-1999) he talked a lot about the Revolution members the Time, he talked about anniversaries(being married at the time) talked about unreleased music having talked about Make Yo Momma Happy Sexual Suiced and some others, he talked about he creation of a lot of his music during that time period, like he did in that piece about Let's Go Crazy

I don't anylize everything that comes out of his mouth. But just stop saying 'I Don't Look Back'

it is possible to revist your past w/out being all in for nostalgia sake. I do beleive he has accomplished that..Will Smiths' ex of Hollywood exes was talkign about Mayte and the breakup.. She stated that she knows him and when he is done , he is done..there really is no rear view mirror..So, i think he doesnt want to be held captive by the past; i get that

If you had a bad past... who would be nostalgic for it?

A lot of what Mayte is talking about is easily accomplished by anyone. I mean just because Prince might do it doesn't mean it's a healthy response either. People detach by cutting off emotions.

Consequence of Sound reported on a Facebook post on Apollonia's page, discribing the event, which now seems to have been taken down:

4:42 A.M. in Minneapolis , just had a private concert by Prince and 3rdEyeGirl at Paisley Park....Ida on Bass , Donna on Guitar and Hannah on Drums. They play loud and HARD. Heard new music that was dope! He had a cool chair for me on the stage at his side and I sat there transfixed on every note, every move, every vocal. After every song I yelled and clapped my ass off. It was so amazing it made me sweat. These ladies are so talented and beautiful. I was charmed. And Prince....my heart still skip’s a beat. Paisley Park is a fun place. He showed me all my images painted on the walls. “Hey thats me!!!” I said , he just laughed in that cool way he that does. The biggest room will be The Purple Rain room….he will have us painted there, huge murals. “My big head gonna be up there?” He just laughed and laughed.

It was recently reported Prince has a new song inspired by a meme featuring a still of him and Apollonia from the "Purple Rain" movie.