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1993 (and older) video snippets questions

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH screams databank! It's becoming more and more difficult. Plenty of q's, few answers!

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WHERE DO THOSE COME FROM: TV BROADCAST OR LEAKS???

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- 1993_02_26 Los Angeles (My Name Is Prince in full)

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- 1993_03_11 Atlanta (Morning papers and Blue Light in full)

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- 1993_03_27 New York (When U Were Mine with Lenny Kravitz): 2 snippets, one is from MTV but the other????

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- 1993_04_17 Los Angeles (1st 8 minutes of the show): camera timing says leak but may have been aired partially, any idea?

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- The Undertaker: 2 versions, one "film" version credited to prince and the official version. Could the "film" version the alledged confidential release from December 1993?

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- 1993_08_27 Munich Aftershow (The Ride + Jailhouse Rock + Calhouse Square + race): similar to the MTV snippets we know but much longer and without MTV logo, WTF???

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PREVIOUSLY UNANSWERED RIDDLES

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- 1992/04/03: Tokyo, Thunder, 38 secs

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- 1992/04/16: Melbourne, Cream, 55 secs

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- 1992/01/18: Melbourse, Dr. Feelgood, 5:50

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- 1992/05/25: Ghent, Daddy Pop, 3:36

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- 1991 Rock In Rio: Supposedly only 45mn of that show had been aired on I-Sat in Brazil.Except that we have the full show circulating with the I-Sat logo on the full show. Though the latest leak didn't feature it my oldest leak segued from and into the TV channel's programs. Very puzzling, though, is the fact that the film's quality isn't the same all along so I have a theory for what it's worth: only 45mn were aired but the full show leaked and the aired parts had better quality than the leak, so someone edited them together to make it better. Either that or the guys from Uptown were mistaken and the whole thing was aired? ANy info somebody?

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- 1990_06_02 Rotterdam (1) - 17mn - Someone said earlier that this was a leak, not from TV, so unless someone says other wise I'll consider it a leak.

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- 1990_06_02 Rotterdam (2) - 8mn - This one is waaay more ambiguous, though a bit long for a TV snippet. Anyone knows?

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- 1990_06_02 Rotterdam (3) - 2mn - OK so this one is obviously from TV because it's written Purple Rain at the beginning and there's something written in Japanese in the end... Huh? Wait a sec: a snippet from the Rotterdam show was aired... in Japan?! That one beats me. Any info?

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- 1990_06_16 Paris - 30sec - Obviously a TV snippet from a French channel. Any confirmation?

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- 1990_06_19 London - 21mn - Looks like a leak to me, it's too long for TV. Any confirmation?

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- 1990_07_07 Cork (Pro) - 11mn - There's a logo from a TV Channel named Cork TV Multichannel so it's obviously from TV. The lucky bastards got 11 minutes, wow! ANy details regarding the extra broadcast date?

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- Now a few ?? regarding the La Coruna show, because to my knowledge there was ONE broadcast of that show and oh! looky looky here, now we have THREE versiosn circulating, except all of them have the same duration (give or take a minute) and the same TV logo on the screen, so allow me to ask you a big... WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT THE FUCK????

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- A somewhat similar question regarding the Tokyo show since we have:

--> Love Or Money version (songs in order)

--> TV version (songs not in order)

and to these 2 recent leaks I'd addthat I used to have

--> a DVD of the show in order but the intro featured a backstage ecene of Prince and the band before starting the show.

--> a recording from French TV (Canal +) which was the show not in order but edited down to one hour (and without the short B&W intro of the "TV version" above).

So what I'd LOOOOVE to know is where each of these 3 versions belong in terms of when and on which country and on which channel the've been broadcast for the first time. + I'm gonna have to compare songs to see if there have been some edits but that'll b a headache for another day

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- 1988_11_06 Los Angeles - 4mn - most likely from a Californian TV broadcast but can someone confirm???

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- Lovesexy Dortmund: what are the differences, if any, between the so-called "Japanese" version and the laser disc version? And when was that Japanese version aired in Japan? And on what channel/program.

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- 1988_08_30 Hamburg Aftershow: was this aired on TV or not? Stillwaiting said he thought only a snippet from it was aired but he wasn't sure so we still don't know.

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- The Paisley Park SOTT live snippet from December 1987 is NOT from the UK version of the Omnibus doc. Is it from the american "Prince of PP" version or if not, from where?

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MANY THX biggrin

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Reply #1 posted 05/05/14 9:21am

ThomasBjj

yeah, I don't know.

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Reply #2 posted 05/05/14 10:33am

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ThomasBjj said:

yeah, I don't know.


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Reply #3 posted 05/05/14 10:28pm

Bellarose12

Prince did When U Were Mine with Lenny Kravitz in concert I believe he did it at Radio City I also believe he did some concert benefit in Harlem. I know the NY news shows had snippets.
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Reply #4 posted 05/07/14 10:00am

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Bellarose12 said:

Prince did When U Were Mine with Lenny Kravitz in concert I believe he did it at Radio City I also believe he did some concert benefit in Harlem. I know the NY news shows had snippets.

So not only MTV. Interesting, thx smile

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Reply #5 posted 05/07/14 11:35am

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databank said:

- 1992/05/25: Ghent, Daddy Pop, 3:36

Never seen this, but most likely form a news report or a tv show?

Dunno what's in your list, but once upon a time I saw a lot of footage from Prince's Nude Tour gig in Werchter, Belgium on the tv show "Man Bijt Hond" which suggested to me that somewhere in some archive (most likely Belgian broadcaster VRT) there is a fantastic recording of at least part of the opening of that concert, icnluding soundboard sound.

- 1990_06_02 Rotterdam (1) - 17mn - Someone said earlier that this was a leak, not from TV, so unless someone says other wise I'll consider it a leak.

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- 1990_06_02 Rotterdam (2) - 8mn - This one is waaay more ambiguous, though a bit long for a TV snippet. Anyone knows?

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- 1990_06_02 Rotterdam (3) - 2mn - OK so this one is obviously from TV because it's written Purple Rain at the beginning and there's something written in Japanese in the end... Huh? Wait a sec: a snippet from the Rotterdam show was aired... in Japan?! That one beats me. Any info?

Premiere of that tour, so plenty of news crews from all around the world were present. I wouldn't be too surprised at long clips, Dutch TV at the time was very music friendly and I wouldn't be surprised if one of the many music shows played a long clip. (But I also wouldn't be surprised if some enterprising Prince fan worked at a tv archive and liberated footage he found there.)

- A somewhat similar question regarding the Tokyo show since we have:
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So what I'd LOOOOVE to know is where each of these 3 versions belong in terms of when and on which country and on which channel the've been broadcast for the first time. + I'm gonna have to compare songs to see if there have been some edits but that'll b a headache for another day

The Tokyo show has often been rebroadcasted over the years (I recall watching it a couple of years ago around Christmas/New Year, and IIRC I saw various reports around that time of it appearing on TV in other countries too), so pinning down specific versions to specific broadcasts seems nearly impossible.

- The Paisley Park SOTT live snippet from December 1987 is NOT from the UK version of the Omnibus doc. Is it from the american "Prince of PP" version or if not, from where?

Aren't there multiple versions of the Omnibus doc? I recall watching a broadcast of it some years ago and noticing several differences; I think the one they sold to other channels was re-edited in some places.

(Ugh, it would be so much easier if you could actually point people to those clips so they could watch them in order to identify them...)

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Reply #6 posted 05/09/14 5:04am

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- 1992/04/16: Melbourne, Cream, 55 secs
This was played on a show called hey hey it's Saturday as a preview/ review to the upcoming Sydney shows on the D & P tour in Australia.
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Reply #7 posted 05/09/14 5:45am

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:38? Really? sad

Everybody stop on the 1...GOOD GOD! Uhh!
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