RRA said:

livewire said:

Although some obviously hate it, I like "Breakfast Can Wait" a great deal. It was a pleasant surprise to learn that it's getting an official release on the new album. I figured it was a lost gem at this point -- although not too lost, I guess. "Rolling Stone" did include it in their list of the top 100 songs of 2013 (placing at #44).

Yeah I don't get why some fans just hate that song. Then again you have Orgers who think Prince hasn't done anything right since the 1980s or the 90s or whatever magical number thay have in their heads when Prince Milk went bad. BCW is a good track. Not a homerun, but a catchy trademark Prince sultry jam. Plus the whole Camille thing at the eni

That's just amusing.

I like Breakfast Can Wait. It's kinda throwaway but it's a funky, clever little throwaway. And it did get a bit of publicity when the single was issued. Perhaps WB even requested it, who knows.

I don't mind it being on there.

Dr. Funkenberry's spreecast revealed nothing. lol these insiders that he spoke with do not know shit. lol

itsjustaroundthecorner said:

Larry Graham is still here?

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my hopes are totally dashed.

sad.

^


Larry f*cking Graham.....

2020 said:

Two words make me very uncomfortable about all of this - Larry Graham UGH

itsjustaroundthecorner said:

Larry Graham is still here?

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my hopes are totally dashed.

sad.

I 2nd That!

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Vannormal said:

Mentioning 'club bangers', I do hope Fallinluv2nite will not be on the new album... And... what?! Larry's back in the game ? That really is some bad news. That means Prince's still heavy into the JW shit. And that's really bad news for the Purple Rain remastering, given the lyrical content of that absolute classic. Damn, I'm scared now...

Prince only played Larry's bass on his new album!!

Which means Larry is still leaching around .... Or did Larry UPS, FedEx or DHL ship his bass in for him to use?

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thedance said:

itsjustaroundthecorner said:

Larry Graham is still here?

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my hopes are totally dashed.

sad.

^


Larry f*cking Graham.....

I see several people don't like Mr JW himself! Watchtower = Falsetower or should I say Twistedtower would be a better term.

[Edited 4/25/14 22:50pm]

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Astasheiks said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Prince only played Larry's bass on his new album!!

Which means Larry is still leaching around .... Or did Larry UPS, FedEx or DHL ship his bass in for him to use?

[Edited 4/25/14 22:36pm]

Another album that will never be released??? BOOOOOORING.

did anyone catch Jeromes section....what did he have to say?

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Astasheiks said:

Which means Larry is still leaching around .... Or did Larry UPS, FedEx or DHL ship his bass in for him to use?

[Edited 4/25/14 22:36pm]

Jesus, K, now people actually hate LG's bass too?!!!. R U people READING?....PRINCE PLAYED LG's FRICKEN BASS...LG DID NOT PLAY ON THE ALBUM !!!!

Prince has enough money to own a Hundred Basses; If he is playing LGs Bass then LG is still hanging around Paisley Park or Minneapolis spreading his False Teachings!

TheKnowledge said:

This was played a PP tonight. Closest other Prince album would be The Chocolate invasion, not Purple Rain.

Interesting. But is it good?

Just listened to whole spreecast... Nik West said that Prince told her he drove over to Larry Graham's house and borrowed his base. So that is different to Larry being on the album!

TheKnowledge said:

This was played a PP tonight. Closest other Prince album would be The Chocolate invasion, not Purple Rain.

hmmm that's NOT good at all, no no no!!!!

jaypotton said:

TheKnowledge said:

This was played a PP tonight. Closest other Prince album would be The Chocolate invasion, not Purple Rain.

hmmm that's NOT good at all, no no no!!!!

TheEnglishGent said:

jaypotton said:

hmmm that's NOT good at all, no no no!!!!

Hmmm Nik West talked about "classic Prince" etc. TCI is NOT classic Prince. Any of the albums from 78-96* could class as classic Prince (ie before Prince albums became pastiches of what is expected of a Prince album - ie cover too many styles to show how versitile P is)o

*Yes I do class Come, TGE and C&D as classic Prince. Others will claim only the 80s albums count but not me. AND I will say that I love 3121 and first disc of Lotusflw3r so still enjoying modern Prince too (just not expecting anything groundbreaking anymore, just solid and consistent would be good)

I was at PP tonite from 10pm-2am and they did not play the new CD (well maybe 1 new song or at least one song I didn't know ;p) Otherwise, breakfast can wait remix which is really good, and other usual Prince songs.

No performance aside Solomon...

Thought I'd throw that in...

[Edited 4/27/14 1:56am]

jaypotton said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Hmmm Nik West talked about "classic Prince" etc. TCI is NOT classic Prince. Any of the albums from 78-96* could class as classic Prince (ie before Prince albums became pastiches of what is expected of a Prince album - ie cover too many styles to show how versitile P is)o

*Yes I do class Come, TGE and C&D as classic Prince. Others will claim only the 80s albums count but not me. AND I will say that I love 3121 and first disc of Lotusflw3r so still enjoying modern Prince too (just not expecting anything groundbreaking anymore, just solid and consistent would be good)

I was just being sad with you, Chocloate Invasion comparisons are not good. At least it wasn't a Slaughterhouse comparison though.

The hate 4 Larry Graham is irrational and based on religious discrimination only. He's a living legend of funk and his 2012 album was awesome (nothing groundbreaking but funky as hell!). There's a very SMALL step between dissing a man for the color of his skin and doing it for his religious beliefs. If Graham wasn't a JW, everyone would be like "wow, too cool". I never read people complaining that Maceo Parker b on a Prince album, still Larry and Maceo are quite similar in terms of generation, musical achievements and importance to the history of Black music. Larry Graham is an awesome bass player and y'all know it, and it also was reported constantly by anyone who ever met him that he's a very kind, warm and generous man. So please show some respect at least for the musician if not for the man.

databank said:

The hate 4 Larry Graham is irrational and based on religious discrimination only. He's a living legend of funk and his 2012 album was awesome (nothing groundbreaking but funky as hell!). There's a very SMALL step between dissing a man for the color of his skin and doing it for his religious beliefs. If Graham wasn't a JW, everyone would be like "wow, too cool". I never read people complaining that Maceo Parker b on a Prince album, still Larry and Maceo are quite similar in terms of generation, musical achievements and importance to the history of Black music. Larry Graham is an awesome bass player and y'all know it, and it also was reported constantly by anyone who ever met him that he's a very kind, warm and generous man. So please show some respect at least for the musician if not for the man.

But is Maceo a JW...?

Anyway, even though cultmembers are known to pray on the weak, you can't really blame Larry for Prince's dismal output of the last 18 years. The well had already dried up.

Half my family is JW and as long as we're not discussing religion, they can be quite nice

Pentacle said:

databank said:

The hate 4 Larry Graham is irrational and based on religious discrimination only. He's a living legend of funk and his 2012 album was awesome (nothing groundbreaking but funky as hell!). There's a very SMALL step between dissing a man for the color of his skin and doing it for his religious beliefs. If Graham wasn't a JW, everyone would be like "wow, too cool". I never read people complaining that Maceo Parker b on a Prince album, still Larry and Maceo are quite similar in terms of generation, musical achievements and importance to the history of Black music. Larry Graham is an awesome bass player and y'all know it, and it also was reported constantly by anyone who ever met him that he's a very kind, warm and generous man. So please show some respect at least for the musician if not for the man.

But is Maceo a JW...?

Anyway, even though cultmembers are known to pray on the weak, you can't really blame Larry for Prince's dismal output of the last 18 years. The well had already dried up.

Half my family is JW and as long as we're not discussing religion, they can be quite nice

Maceo isn't a JW, that's my point: we're talking religious discrimination here..

databank said:

The hate 4 Larry Graham is irrational and based on religious discrimination only. He's a living legend of funk and his 2012 album was awesome (nothing groundbreaking but funky as hell!). There's a very SMALL step between dissing a man for the color of his skin and doing it for his religious beliefs. If Graham wasn't a JW, everyone would be like "wow, too cool". I never read people complaining that Maceo Parker b on a Prince album, still Larry and Maceo are quite similar in terms of generation, musical achievements and importance to the history of Black music. Larry Graham is an awesome bass player and y'all know it, and it also was reported constantly by anyone who ever met him that he's a very kind, warm and generous man. So please show some respect at least for the musician if not for the man.

I very much agree with what is written here. I must admit that my views in the past were biased due to the religious beliefs of LG and for that matter also Prince. The JW faith does not apeal to me at all, and my experience with it as an ousider, though interested in human and spiritual development have not been very positive. However listening to LG interviewed by the Peach and Black crew defenitely gave me a very positive impression of LG as a human, a very nice, honest, humble and cheerful fellow that would be great company to be around with. As for LG bass skills ... come on guys ... this is the guy inventing slapping and picking ...

funkyhead said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Jesus, K, now people actually hate LG's bass too?!!!. R U people READING?....PRINCE PLAYED LG's FRICKEN BASS...LG DID NOT PLAY ON THE ALBUM !!!!

Its a disgrace that Larry Prince's closest friend gets so hated on here. Eye never had a problem with Prince's spritual awakenings. Everybody changes, Prince has always been interchangeable...He is Gemini.

TheEnglishGent said:

jaypotton said:

Hmmm Nik West talked about "classic Prince" etc. TCI is NOT classic Prince. Any of the albums from 78-96* could class as classic Prince (ie before Prince albums became pastiches of what is expected of a Prince album - ie cover too many styles to show how versitile P is)o

*Yes I do class Come, TGE and C&D as classic Prince. Others will claim only the 80s albums count but not me. AND I will say that I love 3121 and first disc of Lotusflw3r so still enjoying modern Prince too (just not expecting anything groundbreaking anymore, just solid and consistent would be good)

I was just being sad with you, Chocloate Invasion comparisons are not good. At least it wasn't a Slaughterhouse comparison though.

EGent - I know you were - I just continued my train of thought - not aimed at you!

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

funkyhead said:

Jesus, K, now people actually hate LG's bass too?!!!. R U people READING?....PRINCE PLAYED LG's FRICKEN BASS...LG DID NOT PLAY ON THE ALBUM !!!!

Its a disgrace that Larry Prince's closest friend gets so hated on here. Eye never had a problem with Prince's spritual awakenings. Everybody changes, Prince has always been interchangeable...He is Gemini.

JWs don't believe in Geminis.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

funkyhead said:

Jesus, K, now people actually hate LG's bass too?!!!. R U people READING?....PRINCE PLAYED LG's FRICKEN BASS...LG DID NOT PLAY ON THE ALBUM !!!!

Its a disgrace that Larry Prince's closest friend gets so hated on here. Eye never had a problem with Prince's spritual awakenings. Everybody changes, Prince has always been interchangeable...He is Gemini.

Hmm really tough call and other posters are right that seemingly hating on someone for their religious beliefs is as bad as for the colour of your skin!

Personally I do not feel strongly about Larry Graham either way and obviously do not know the man! His bass playing is superb but his singing does not appeal (I did buy two albums off the back of Prince bringing him to my attention).

For me I do not like Prince being a JW (and it was through Larry that P became a JW). Apart from the music one of the things that drew me to Prince in the early 80s was his all inclusive approach to people, sexuality and spirituality. He embraced and welcomed peoples of any creed, colour, sexuality or religious belief. He espoused a belief in God that also accepted and allowed for people to be sexual (which is a human condition).

The JW are the antithisis of this. They are not inclusive or accepting of difference in any way. Being a JW has caused Prince to say some really awful things including dissing Wendy & Lisa for being gay! It has also changed the lyrical content of his songs, some of which contain sexist and racist messages! Personally I think that is a real shame!

THAT is where some of the hate for Larry Graham comes from. Hate is not deserved but dislike for changing someone who was so open into someone who is so closed is actually well deserved IMHO.