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what would be possible inclusions on an ATWIAD remaster? iirc there aren't that many tracks from this era that went into the vault, at least not that we know of. i'm sure there are a lot, but the ones that we have heard (about) are only a few, right? / would these count: all day, all night our destiny roadhouse garden / i can't really think of anything else. most of ATWIAD was recorded as they were on the road with the purple rain tour and not too long after the tour ended he started working on what would become parade. or do i have a serious black out regarding this whole period? / to me it seems like the one period that has the least stuff floating out there either heard or unheard. so it would be very interesting to see what would be included on a possible remaster as far as bonus tracks.
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An obvious one for me (that is very unlikely) is the complete "America" extended version, all 21 friggin minutes. "Girl" extended cut would be cool too.
Be interesting to hear the original version of the title track that the Coleman siblings produced which Prince then re-recorded for the album. I wonder if that's possible? | |
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Personally....
Around The World In A Day Paisley Park Condition Of The Heart Raspberet Beret Tamborine America Pop Life The Ladder Temptation Paisley Park (Extended Version) Raspberet Beret (Extended Version) Pop Life (Extended Version) America (Extended Version) 4 The Tears In Your Eyes (We Are The World Version)
Hello (Full Version) She's Always In My Hair (Full Version) Girl (Full Version) The Dance Electric (Unreleased Full Version) All Day, All Night Our Destiny Roadhouse Garden Love and Sex Nothing Compares 2 U Mutiny Screams of Passion Desire High Fashion Pop Life (Fresh Dance Mix) The Ladder (Piano Version) A Love Bizarre (Unreleased Full Version) 4 The Tears in Your Eyes (Live Aid Version)
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ah yes "the family", that whole project slipped my mind although i always considered it more like a sibling to the parade album since they share a certain atmosphere. / and the full version of The Dance Electric with prince on vocals:
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Just added All Day, All Night. How could I forget! | |
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There is an obvious overlap with each period. For me, The Family was the bridge between ATWIAD and Parade, but with Parade having so many outtakes of its own, I'll bundle the Family (and the AC / Romance 1600 work) with ATWIAD. | |
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don't even get me started on the Parade remaster 3rdeyeboy because that one is absolutely the one i'm looking forward to the most and here's what it would look like if i had my greedy little way: /
Parade: 01. Christopher Tracy’s Parade 02. New Position 03. I Wonder U 04. Under The Cherry Moon 05. Girls & Boys 06. Life Can Be So Nice 07. Venus de Milo 08. Mountains 09. Do U Lie? 10. Kiss 11. Anotherloverholenyohead 12. Sometimes It Snows In April / Parade 2: 01. Kiss [Single Version] 02. Kiss [Extended Version] 03. Love Or $ [Short] 04. Love Or $ [Long] 05. Mountains [Extended Version] 06. Alexa de Paris 07. Alexa de Paris [Extended Version] 08. Girls & Boys [Edit] 09. Anotherloverholenyohead [Edit] 10. Anotherloverholenyohead [Extended Version] / Parade 3: 01. An Honest Man [Vocal] 02. Sexual Suicide 03. Stella & Charles 04. Neon Telephone 05. Junk Music 06. Others Here With Us 07. Evolsidog 08. Old Friends 4 Sale 09. All My Dreams 10. Come Elektra Tuesday 11. Heaven 12. An Honest Man [Instrumental]
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What about.....
Manic Monday 100MPH Kiss (Acoustic) Spash Go Bedtime Story
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much as i would love almost all of the related artist tracks with prince on vocals, this is one of the few that i absolutely can't imagine being sung by anyone other than jill jones, her version is simply definitive imo. / but yes, Splash! and Go. oh jeez, we're probably setting ourselves up for a huge letdown here but what the heck, at least we'll have had our fun now.
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No those 3 are a totally different direction
They did rehearse Go in France at thhe show America was videoed
Go also has the same flow of Splash Adonis & Bathsheba and a few others
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i know what you mean, but it's not really about flow as much as it is about putting tracks on there that were recorded after the sessions for the previous album and before serious sessions began for the next project. . adonis and bathsheba is from august 86 iirc . the tracks i mentioned were all recorded in june of 84, abou 2 or 3 weeks before the release of purple rain. so they would kind of fit as the first tracks recorded toward a new album. . it's a slippery slope with all this stuff and it will be very interesting to see what will be put on which remaster - if we're even getting these kind of songs at all because only prince knows yet what he will put on the remastered albums. it could be just bsides and 12" but let's hope not.
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The problem we face is Prince never really recorded "sessions" like most artists. He pumped out stuff all the time. | |
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oh, you're right! i forgot about the bsides, many of which were recorded well after the albums 'they belong to' were released. but they obviously do belong to that specific era. / i wonder if this is giving prince the same headache at the moment and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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I mean they just don't feel or sound like anything on ATWIAD to me (at least) . In that 1984-1985/86 period we could put together at least 10 albums that sound totally different . Like ATWIAD sounds like a different direction of the Purple Rain sound And songs like (Roadhouse Garden, Our Destiny, Manic Monday, 4 the Tears in Your Eyes, Dance Electric, etc) sound like another direction of the Purple Rain sound Then there is the Family sessions with that Purple Rain direction before they changed 2 a more Parade era sound:Desire, Nothing Compares 2 U, Felline etc . These kinds of discussions just get me all hot and bothered lol
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Here's my hope for these very exciting remasters, from most interesting to least so for me: 1. Songs that we've never even heard of. 2. Songs for which we have titles and some recording info, but there's no circulating outtake. 3. Songs for which the circulating outtakes are incomplete, unfinished, or very low quality. In this category, I'd love to hear finished high quality versions of Go and Can I Play With U, although they might fit better with Parade. 4. Songs that are unreleased, but we already have decent versions in circulation. 5. Previously released rarities. Extended versions. B-sides. 6. Remastered versions of the album tracks. Basically, I want to hear stuff that's new! (new to the fans at least) "Love & honesty, peace & harmony" | |
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Good luck fitting all that lot on 2 CD's. | |
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There's the version of ATWIAD with the funky bass, but apart from that I'm struggling to think of anything else unreleased which could go on it. Presumably there are some demo versions of the other tracks on the album which aren't circulating. If so, it would be nice to have a solo piano version of The Ladder, like the one from the end of that documentary, as I've always thought the studio version was horribly over-produced (never liked that pretentious story at the beginning either.)
Yeah, there's kind of a problem with any potential remastering project including bonus tracks, because if you only stick to the tracks that were intended for the album you're going to miss a whole lot of vault stuff recorded at the same time. Perhaps a digital store would be the best place for those tracks, where you can buy individual ones you're interested in, or groupings of songs by time period. Heavenly wine and roses seems to whisper to me when you smile...
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Would The Flesh count as a good bonus disc since the first sessions were in December 25th
If so this is what I would put on a Deluxe Edition..... I'd include The Flesh and The mini concert from the America Video Shoot
Disc 1 (Remastered Album and Bside Edits) Around The World In A Day Paisley Park Condition Of The Heart Raspberry Beret Tamborine America Pop Life The Ladder Temptation Hello (Edit) She's Always In My Hair (Edit) Girl (Edit) 4 The Tears In Your Eyes (We Are The World) 4 The Tears In Your Eyes (Acoustic)
Disc 2 (Extended Mixes and B Sides) Raspberry Beret (New Mix) Hello (Fresh Dance Remix) Pop Life (Extended) Pop Life (Fresh Dance Remix) Girl (Extended) Paisley Park (Remix She's Always In My Hair (Extended) America (Extended)
Disc 3 (Demo's and The Flesh) Around The World In A Day (Demo) Strange Relationship (With Wendy Lisa and David percussion and sitar) Our Destiny Roudhouse Garden All Day All Night Junk Yard (The Flesh) Up From Below (The Flesh) Y'All Want Some More? (The Flesh) A Couple Of Miles (The Flesh) Shake Something (The Flesh)
Disc 4 DVD (The Videos, America Mini Concert and MTV Interview)
The Video's Raspberry Beret Paisley Park 1 Paisley Park 2 America 4 The Tears In Your Eyes
Mini Concert America Take 1 (Live at Theatre De Verdure 1985.10.27) America Take 2 (Live at Theatre De Verdure 1985.10.27) Let's Go Crazy (Live at Theatre De Verdure 1985.10.27) Little Red Corvette (Live at Theatre De Verdure 1985.10.27) Purple Rain (Live at Theatre De Verdure 1985.10.27)
MTV Interview [Edited 4/22/14 5:07am] [Edited 4/22/14 5:08am] [Edited 4/22/14 5:09am] | |
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The Family and Romance 1600 outtakes/prince versions of these songs belong with the Family and Romance 1600 remasters, leave them outta ATWIAD!!! And P's rendition of All Day, All Night would be better on the Jill Jones remaster. As for The Dance Electric it'd be complicated I think, for whoever now owns the masters of André's version owns the instrumental track and therefore P could have trouble releasing his own version without a proper licence, but I may be wrong. .. Tracklist of ATWIAD remaster box-set oughta include: . CD1: The original album As such. . CD2-3: The non-album tracks: Pt. 1 - The B-Sides - 4 The Tears In Your Eyes - 2:49 (not technically a b-side but u know) - She's Always In My Hair - 3:37 - Hello - 3:24 - Girl - 3:47 Pt. 2 - The alternate takes: - 4 The Tears In Your Eyes - 3:24 (the acoustic version from The B-Sides) - Paisley Park (Remix) - 6:57 - Raspberry Beret (New Mix) - 6:36 - She's Always In My Hair (New Mix) - 6:32 - Pop Life (Fresh Dance Mix) - 6:19 - Hello (Fresh Dance Mix - 6:12 - America - 21:37 (the extended version) - Girl - 7:36 (the extended version) - America - 21:31 (the Black Archives compilation edit, a bit ridiculous I'll admit but hell...) Pt. 3 - The music videos takes: - Paisley Park - 3:36 (the edit from the music video) - Raspberry Beret - 4:18 (the mix from the music video) - America - 9:53 (the live version from the music video) . CD 3-4 The Unreleased 2 80 minutes CD's of outtakes and unreleased mixes from 84-85. . DVD1 The full Nice show from which the video from America was taken (if pro-shot in its entirety) The 3 music videos. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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A hell of a good list overall but how about we create a Parade dream tracklist thread instead? And... where's Splash?! O_O A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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See, there is so much to go on to the Parade remaster, that the Family album demos would not have a spot other than the ATWIAD deluxe edition.
Right??? | |
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IstenSzek said: don't even get me started on the Parade remaster 3rdeyeboy because that one is absolutely the one i'm looking forward to the most and here's what it would look like if i had my greedy little way: /
Parade: 01. Christopher Tracy’s Parade 02. New Position 03. I Wonder U 04. Under The Cherry Moon 05. Girls & Boys 06. Life Can Be So Nice 07. Venus de Milo 08. Mountains 09. Do U Lie? 10. Kiss 11. Anotherloverholenyohead 12. Sometimes It Snows In April / Parade 2: 01. Kiss [Single Version] 02. Kiss [Extended Version] 03. Love Or $ [Short] 04. Love Or $ [Long] 05. Mountains [Extended Version] 06. Alexa de Paris 07. Alexa de Paris [Extended Version] 08. Girls & Boys [Edit] 09. Anotherloverholenyohead [Edit] 10. Anotherloverholenyohead [Extended Version] / Parade 3: 01. An Honest Man [Vocal] 02. Sexual Suicide 03. Stella & Charles 04. Neon Telephone 05. Junk Music 06. Others Here With Us 07. Evolsidog 08. Old Friends 4 Sale 09. All My Dreams 10. Come Elektra Tuesday 11. Heaven 12. An Honest Man [Instrumental]
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NOT RIGHT.
They belong to The Family deluxe edition, no-where-else!
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Parade Era Prince would have enjoyed that
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Is it not Prince singing those Family demos? I wouldn't put Apollonia's demo of "Manic Monday" on the Bangles deluxe edition, but I think it could go on a Apollonia 6 deluxe, for instance.
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wouldn't All Day All night be on Purple Rain? it was performed at the 84 birthday show before the album came out She Believed in Fairytales and Princes, He Believed the voices coming from his stereo
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bigd74 said: wouldn't All Day All night be on Purple Rain? it was performed at the 84 birthday show before the album came out No because Purple Rain was pretty much in the can. All Day, All Night was never going to be on PR. But, it really could go with either ATWIAD or Purple Rain because it was intended for neither but recorded between both... [Edited 4/23/14 15:44pm] Chili Sauce. | |
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