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Reply #480 posted 04/20/14 7:02am

lwr001

funksterr said:

laurarichardson said:

funksterr said: ----The truth of the matter is you have no idea if the revolution is being screwed or if he walked out on the Kobalt deal.Until yesterday we the public did not even know this was the works and none of know the terms of the deal. Bottom line Prince is winning and the fans are winning.

This deal has been rumored to be in play for a while. People have been posting about it on this site for years. The surprising thing is that Prince agreed to it. The possibility of the deal itself, though, was known for a long time. I expected should it happen though, that it would be accompanied by a Purple Rain reunion tour, with new music from Prince and The Revolution and The Time, maybe even The Family. I still think that it is a minor possibility, but the news that 3EG is part of the deal, more than likely means there won't be any Revolution reunions... ever. If not now, on the 30th anniversary of their biggest selling album, then there would be no reason to ever do it. So that's surely the end of that.

He started negotiations when Lyor and Kevin Liles were in charge..They are my sisters former DEfJam cohorts. P wasnt feeling them and waited to see what the new regime would be like

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Reply #481 posted 04/20/14 7:06am

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The remasters mean little to me. I can live with the sound quality of the old recordings. The bonus material and new material is what I will be most interested in.
I'm most happy for Prince getting his masters back, watching things unravel in the early 90s, it was not the most pleasant time for Prince. Finally reaching the deal to get them back he has to be full of happiness! Right now, I'm more happy for what Prince is getting out of the deal, vs. What we may or may not get.
What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #482 posted 04/20/14 7:13am

jaypotton

Despite the fact that as a fan I am delirious about the prospect of properly mastered albums from 78-89 (I am assuming there is little need to remaster those that were recorded digitally in the first place)...

One thing does worry me. According to various biographies the authors have interviewed different engineers that worked for Prince. One consistent thing that comes across is Prince's apparent disregard for looking after the master tapes he has in his vault. At one point several got water damage when there was a leak at Paisley Park. Apparently HM Buff epeatedly pleaded with Prince to let him digitally transfer all the master tapes and/or "bake them" to protect them from distortion. Prince never let him.

SO...if/when Prince does start regaining his master tapes from Warners then there is the distincgt possibility he will just throw them in the vault and they will go to ruin meaning...

These WB remasters may be the one and only chance to get this done right!

'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
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Reply #483 posted 04/20/14 7:13am

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Has anyone else realized that this has been in the works for some time?


The Purple Rain is set to come out June? Say June 24th (a Tuesday and the day before PR's 30th anniversary).


So this almost has to be well undeway if not completed.


I said it the other topic: Prince was meeting with WB some time ago...and it was speculated it could be about getting the masters back and a PR anniversary addition. He was also said to have been at PP and in the vault as well.

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Reply #484 posted 04/20/14 7:22am

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For thoes worried that others may get a raw deal: this deal can not alter, infringe, or limit any rights or claims any other person may have to ownership partial or whole of any of the master recordings.


That is not the same as did Prince just rip people off at the time of creation. Which we know he did a few of THE TIMEs.

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Reply #485 posted 04/20/14 7:31am

Mong

The master tapes were transferred a long time ago, as were all the individual parts for every track on every album.

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Reply #486 posted 04/20/14 7:38am

jaypotton

Mong said:

The master tapes were transferred a long time ago, as were all the individual parts for every track on every album.

Source? Which master tapes you referring to? The WB released albums or the unreleased Vault material?

'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
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Reply #487 posted 04/20/14 8:57am

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There's actually something strangely comforting seeing a Prince single with the name 'Warner Brothers' attached to it.

[Edited 4/20/14 10:04am]

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Reply #488 posted 04/20/14 9:01am

Milty

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jaypotton said:

3rdeyeboy said:

If they want one person who will be objective over the remaster planning, they need someone who can bring oversight, of the era. Not Questlove, or Funkenberry, Larry or 3rd eye. They need to call Alan Leeds.

yeahthat

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Reply #489 posted 04/20/14 9:40am

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funksterr said:

This deal has been rumored to be in play for a while. People have been posting about it on this site for years. The surprising thing is that Prince agreed to it. The possibility of the deal itself, though, was known for a long time. I expected should it happen though, that it would be accompanied by a Purple Rain reunion tour, with new music from Prince and The Revolution and The Time, maybe even The Family. I still think that it is a minor possibility, but the news that 3EG is part of the deal, more than likely means there won't be any Revolution reunions... ever. If not now, on the 30th anniversary of their biggest selling album, then there would be no reason to ever do it. So that's surely the end of that.

nod

This was posted here several months ago.

I was told by an Nashville insider a couple of weeks ago.From the info I was given this reunion of WB & Prince is for his legacy with a promise by WB to restore the full Prince legacy to glory.

We shall see.

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Reply #490 posted 04/20/14 9:56am

OnlyNDaUsa

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muleFunk said:

funksterr said:

This deal has been rumored to be in play for a while. People have been posting about it on this site for years. The surprising thing is that Prince agreed to it. The possibility of the deal itself, though, was known for a long time. I expected should it happen though, that it would be accompanied by a Purple Rain reunion tour, with new music from Prince and The Revolution and The Time, maybe even The Family. I still think that it is a minor possibility, but the news that 3EG is part of the deal, more than likely means there won't be any Revolution reunions... ever. If not now, on the 30th anniversary of their biggest selling album, then there would be no reason to ever do it. So that's surely the end of that.

nod

This was posted here several months ago.

I was told by an Nashville insider a couple of weeks ago.From the info I was given this reunion of WB & Prince is for his legacy with a promise by WB to restore the full Prince legacy to glory.

We shall see.

yeah there was a topic here some time ago that Prince was at WB. And the speculation was over the masters, re-masters, and a PR anniversary set.

again again (based on the report that it will be issued in june (but I am also hearing not until late summer-AUG perhaps) the work on PR-30 *30 tracks?* would be near complete. *but then again they were tweaking Ultimate until real close to its release. *who was that orger that was working on it? I forgot his name???

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Reply #491 posted 04/20/14 9:57am

udo

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Found on schkopi:

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1984 : Lets Go Crazy

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1990 : Get Off

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1995 : Endorphine Machine

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1999 : Baby Knows

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2007 : The One U Wanna C

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As you can see the wavforms present us with less and less dynamic range in a sort of loudness war. This means worse sound for wrong reasons.

If this is going to be the WB remaster treatment ([insert_your_deity] forbid!) I won't like them new CD's except maybe for the unheard stuff.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #492 posted 04/20/14 10:17am

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Thank you for the comparison, Udo. Yep, there needs to be quality people on this.

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
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Reply #493 posted 04/20/14 10:43am

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I would LOVE 2c and 2 have a double-disc set of "Dirty Mind" (original recording + tracks from the vaults!) My #1 favorite Prince album on EARTH!!! smile

[Edited 4/20/14 10:45am]

Hungry? Just look in the mirror and get fed up.
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Reply #494 posted 04/20/14 10:49am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

muleFunk said:

nod

This was posted here several months ago.

I was told by an Nashville insider a couple of weeks ago.From the info I was given this reunion of WB & Prince is for his legacy with a promise by WB to restore the full Prince legacy to glory.

We shall see.

yeah there was a topic here some time ago that Prince was at WB. And the speculation was over the masters, re-masters, and a PR anniversary set.

again again (based on the report that it will be issued in june (but I am also hearing not until late summer-AUG perhaps) the work on PR-30 *30 tracks?* would be near complete. *but then again they were tweaking Ultimate until real close to its release. *who was that orger that was working on it? I forgot his name???

I dunno the name lol but I heard real good things about PR including the release of the full version of Computer Blue.

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Reply #495 posted 04/20/14 11:35am

JudasSmile

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muleFunk said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

yeah there was a topic here some time ago that Prince was at WB. And the speculation was over the masters, re-masters, and a PR anniversary set.

again again (based on the report that it will be issued in june (but I am also hearing not until late summer-AUG perhaps) the work on PR-30 *30 tracks?* would be near complete. *but then again they were tweaking Ultimate until real close to its release. *who was that orger that was working on it? I forgot his name???

I dunno the name lol but I heard real good things about PR including the release of the full version of Computer Blue.

I think it may have been jseven.

U been bamboozled, hoodwinked, took.
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Reply #496 posted 04/20/14 11:41am

babynoz

udo said:

Found on schkopi:

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1984 : Lets Go Crazy

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1990 : Get Off

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1995 : Endorphine Machine

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1999 : Baby Knows

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2007 : The One U Wanna C

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As you can see the wavforms present us with less and less dynamic range in a sort of loudness war. This means worse sound for wrong reasons.

If this is going to be the WB remaster treatment ([insert_your_deity] forbid!) I won't like them new CD's except maybe for the unheard stuff.



Gee...on the other thread they would have us believe that The Breakdown is the only song to suffer this treatment, lol

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #497 posted 04/20/14 11:45am

lwr001

Nik West

did her thing on the album. We were jammin to it last night at the listening party.

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Reply #498 posted 04/20/14 11:51am

sunlite

It would be great if 'Roadhouse Garden' or even 'Dream Factory' saw the light of day.
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Reply #499 posted 04/20/14 11:59am

redflag

It's at times like this I really miss Tangerine17.

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Reply #500 posted 04/20/14 1:06pm

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3rdeyeboy said:

If they want one person who will be objective over the remaster planning, they need someone who can bring oversight, of the era. Not Questlove, or Funkenberry, Larry or 3rd eye. They need to call Alan Leeds.

This. Alan has a history with Prince, and knows what he's doing. I hope Prince sees the light of day about needing help with his legacy. Now, if Mr. Leeds would be willing to work with him is another story... question

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Reply #501 posted 04/20/14 1:11pm

EddieC

Elle85n09 said:

3rdeyeboy said:

If they want one person who will be objective over the remaster planning, they need someone who can bring oversight, of the era. Not Questlove, or Funkenberry, Larry or 3rd eye. They need to call Alan Leeds.

This. Alan has a history with Prince, and knows what he's doing. I hope Prince sees the light of day about needing help with his legacy. Now, if Mr. Leeds would be willing to work with him is another story... question

Alan worked on The Hits/The B-Sides, didn't he? So maybe he's who they're already looking at. He has done some talking to people about Prince, so I hope he hasn't ticked the man off.

The talking hasn't been bad in anything I've seen, but Prince seems to get upset about odd things sometimes.

[Edited 4/20/14 13:12pm]

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Reply #502 posted 04/20/14 2:14pm

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[Edited 4/20/14 23:06pm]

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Reply #503 posted 04/20/14 2:18pm

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andykeen said:

Remaster Come and TGE with out takes ohgoon

It could happen, if the earlier albums sell enough to justify it.

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Reply #504 posted 04/20/14 3:40pm

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redflag said:

It's at times like this I really miss Tangerine17.

Tangerine17 was Mathieu Bitton. He's posted on Twitter that he's submitted his wish to be involved with this project to Prince.

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Reply #505 posted 04/20/14 3:48pm

bashraka

Meshell Ndegeocello ‏@OfficialMeshell 30m http://www.bbc.co.uk/news...s-27081344 … in 2002 Prince called me a "house nigga" for making a record for Warner Bros. Past is prelude aint it

Meshell Ndegeocello ‏@OfficialMeshell 22m One should never air dirty laundry but sure is funny how the world works and how perceptions often trump truth

Meshell Ndegeocello ‏@OfficialMeshell 21m And even the truth is murky water ...

3121 #1 THIS YEAR
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Reply #506 posted 04/20/14 3:57pm

Drix

I had hope this would happen, but to see the news this morning was amazing..

I really hope they can a gree on a good set of unreleased material for this one, and not just a remix or two. This needs to be done right, and I hope this has been in the works for a long time if they are to release PR this june!

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Reply #507 posted 04/20/14 3:59pm

mynameisnotsus
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bashraka said:

Meshell Ndegeocello ‏@OfficialMeshell 30m http://www.bbc.co.uk/news...s-27081344 … in 2002 Prince called me a "house nigga" for making a record for Warner Bros. Past is prelude aint it



Meshell Ndegeocello ‏@OfficialMeshell 22m One should never air dirty laundry but sure is funny how the world works and how perceptions often trump truth



Meshell Ndegeocello ‏@OfficialMeshell 21m And even the truth is murky water ...



Woah - he went there with Meshell?? disbelief
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Reply #508 posted 04/20/14 4:08pm

Militant

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bashraka said:

Meshell Ndegeocello ‏@OfficialMeshell 30m http://www.bbc.co.uk/news...s-27081344 … in 2002 Prince called me a "house nigga" for making a record for Warner Bros. Past is prelude aint it

Meshell Ndegeocello ‏@OfficialMeshell 22m One should never air dirty laundry but sure is funny how the world works and how perceptions often trump truth

Meshell Ndegeocello ‏@OfficialMeshell 21m And even the truth is murky water ...

Well, the difference is that in 2002 Warners was still largely the same company that it was when Prince left in 1996. Digital was still a new thing, CD's were still selling large numbers, YouTube didn't exist, iTunes existed only as a media manager and not as a store...... I could go on.

Warners in 2014 is a completely different label.

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Reply #509 posted 04/20/14 4:42pm

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oops some of that as based on a blog from 2013 since then they pulled all songs from the online stores...seems the series was over done and died an early death. So no reason to even go there.

[Edited 4/20/14 16:47pm]

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