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Reply #30 posted 03/12/14 10:20pm

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chrisslope9 said:

I think he will be remembered the we Van Goh , Picasso, and Miles Davis are remembered.

And Amadeus.

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Reply #31 posted 03/13/14 12:00am

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1999, Purple Rain, Kiss, Assless pants, Slave, TAFKAP...... end.

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Reply #32 posted 03/13/14 2:51am

Rebeljuice

Prince was one of a handful of pop music acts that broke the mold in the 80s. He created some fantastic pop music at his peak and set trends for other pop musicians to follow. And that is how he will probably be remembered by and large.

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Having said that, Im sure there will be nods to his abilities as a live musician and whilst his guitar and piano abilities will never go down as being the best in the business, he will no doubt get praise for those abilities. He will probably also get some kudos for his ability to change genres, not just over the course of his career, but also on the same album sometimes.

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I imagine the name change will never go unmentioned and the classic "the artist formerly known as the artist formally known as Prince" will continue to precede any article written about him for the rest of time.

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As for the vault... Who knows. Is prince looking after it or is it like the recycle bin on our computers? Maybe he sees it as a junk yard that he occassionally raids but is otherwise unfit for purpose. And when he dies someone has been instructed to right-click and select "Empty Trash".

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Or maybe he has whole compiled albums ready for release for decades to come after he has gone? All the film footage in itself, if it has been preserved could make for one hell of a fantastic documentary (or four).

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Most likely though, and as unfortunate as I think this is, I think the vault will never see the light of day and when he goes, the keys go with him. Forever to remain a mystery.

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Reply #33 posted 03/13/14 2:55am

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Prince will live forever.
"Still Crazy 4 Coco Rock"
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Reply #34 posted 03/13/14 3:15am

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Some very noble & loyal responses but who can deny that Prince didn't heed the example of MJ's career. "They hail u then they nail u"

If he had watched closer the ridicule and alienation MJ received after his crazy antics P WOULD NOT have done the whole TAFKAP thing and mute interviews in veils and WORST of all imho the who Youtube/fansite drama.

He runs the risk of (much like MJ) being remembered as an old miserable scrooge-like paranoid eccentric witha penchant for yonger women and a cult following of outcast freaks who like 'real music by real musicians' lol I mean what exactly is that really? Is that the same as a 'new power generation' or a 'Paisley Park' or 'UpTown' or any of the other number of imaginary things Prince thinks up shares with us and we just accept REGARDLESS of the fact that if Joe Average who works in KFC started saying "My spirit told me to call myself an unpronouncable number" he'd be lock up in Arkham along with the Joker n The riddler lol

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Bottom line. Prince is now 50whatever n has about 12-15 years to:

Have a kid

Be married 4 life

Release some memorable new amazing music anthems

Make up with his fans 4 years of bullshit n betrayl

Lose that Afro neutral

Do a world reunion tour with the Revolution (instant god status)

Get rid of Shelby & any other hangers on and work with sexy ppl again (cos that's what P does. Sheena Easton couldn't sing 4 shit but she was fine doh) nod

Get rid of his 'old fashion music & old ideas' and actually wake up to 'real modern music by real modern musicians'

Stop being a dick and release the vault

Start playing the nasty songs again (If god can 4give those outfits he wears he damn sure can 4give a few f words n shit)

Yeah smile

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Reply #35 posted 03/13/14 10:07am

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he will be remembered as one of the great music figures of the 20th century...along with such artists as the beatles..stevie wonder..rolling stones..bob dylan..stevie wonder and david bowie...his music will live on long after we are all dead...

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Reply #36 posted 03/13/14 5:12pm

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These threads pop up every so often, mostly because someone is really longing for the Vault to be opened up and released.

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He will be remembered mostly for how groundbreaking and controversial he was in the 80s, but also for helping to pioneeer Internet music distribution and fighting for artists' rights.

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Musically, he will mostly be remembered for the music that is on The Hits/B-Sides and not much after. I am not saying he did not have great/good work after, I am saying that the world populace and future generations will only know the Hits.

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Personally, I would hope that there is some sort of "legacy" plan in place to release his music in a controlled and respectful way.

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Lastly, I would like to see Paisley Park be donated to either the Minnesota public schools or some children's organization to foster music performance and teaching.

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Reply #37 posted 03/13/14 5:17pm

nursev

dont wanna talk about this...it'll make me cry.
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Reply #38 posted 03/14/14 12:17am

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blackbob said:

he will be remembered as one of the great music figures of the 20th century...along with such artists as the beatles..stevie wonder..rolling stones..bob dylan..stevie wonder and david bowie...his music will live on long after we are all dead...

Now that's a cold statement right there, cold as a compliment!!! cool biggrin nod headbang

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Reply #39 posted 03/14/14 12:22am

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Mandingo said:

I can remember 2009 when MJ died. Yes I was sad because MJ music was the 2nd most played soundtrack to my life. But the other reason was that I thought that now , ppl would not remember MJ who had a sell out show at the O2 and showed the world that he was still the 'king of Pop' instead they would reember the accussed paedophile and plastic surgery addict who died of a drug overdose sad

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If Prince passed in the late 70's/early 80's he would have been rememerd as a star. A quirky talent that never reached his full potential Amy Winehouse or James Dean esque

If Prince went in the early 80's (post dirty mind) he would have been remembered like lead singer from Thin Lizzy, Phil Lynott or Kurt Kobain kinda figure. You know a star, a powerhouse who had so much more to give.

If he passed in the late 80's (Post PR, SOTT, Batman) he would have been up there as an icon like Freddie mecury or Marilyn Monroe

If Prince went in the early 90's after the symbol album he ould have been up there with the rock god's, the likes of Elvis & Jimi Hendrix

After the whole hoo hah with the name change, Emancipation & other run of the mill albums I'd say P rince who passed in the early 2000's would have been rememerd as a cult figure, weirdo who changed his name and lost his way. The music would have taken 2nd place to the controversy.

So now how would he be remembered? A respected musical icon genius like Ray charles or a Count Basie bandleader or maybe as a modern day tragic Mozart figure who's brilliance and gift was often met with obstacles of ego and personal drama..

For me I will (If I outlive him) remember Prince as the greatest performer, most electrifying musician and most daring/captivating composer I have ever heard or seen. I wonder how the world will remember him.

And 2ndly Cold-Arse Thread, That's something to think about. Heck, he could be this while we are all alive "most electrifying musician and most daring/captivating composer I have ever heard or seen."

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Reply #40 posted 03/14/14 12:53am

novabrkr

Mandingo said:

Bottom line. Prince is now 50whatever n has about 12-15 years to:


wtf, most people live much longer than that these days, especially if they can afford healthcare. This isn't 1814.

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Reply #41 posted 03/16/14 7:29am

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novabrkr said:

This isn't 1814.

But he is from the USA.

That iis a limiting factor during life and perhaps also in times of need. (care)

OTOH he had time to think and has some cash.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #42 posted 03/16/14 8:52am

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novabrkr said:



Mandingo said:



Bottom line. Prince is now 50whatever n has about 12-15 years to:





wtf, most people live much longer than that these days, especially if they can afford healthcare. This isn't 1814.


What Mandingo means is not that Prince only has 15 years left to live but that, at 70, he will be too old for the things mentioned. Whether that's true or not is another matter. Toots Thielemans just retired and he was over 90 years old.
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Reply #43 posted 03/16/14 9:00am

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And to answer the question, I think Prince will be remembered as one of the best rock musicians of his generation. Not on the same level as Hendrix or JB or Elvis, but pretty close. The crazy stuff surrounding the name change was just a phase. But I really hope he'll make another great album!
He said he withdrew the Black Album because "when we die, we will be remembered by the last thing we did"
And I dont want to remember him from Do't U Wanna Fall in Love 2Nite or Prerzlbodylogic!
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Reply #44 posted 03/17/14 5:25am

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I think he will be not only remembered among the greatest of all time (seriously), but also he will be remembered as possibly the greatest of his generation - either tied with or slightly better than MJ.

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There is a "cool" factor that Prince has in addition to his legacy of music that others don't have. Even if his new albums aren't that good, the persona is still there and his Dorian Gray looks will keep him in the media for a long time.

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Reply #45 posted 03/17/14 5:28am

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I am currently unprepared to answer this question. I'll come back whenever I feel he has finished kicking the ass of everyone else in the game. cool

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Reply #46 posted 03/17/14 6:05am

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SuperSoulFighter said:

And to answer the question, I think Prince will be remembered as one of the best rock musicians of his generation. Not on the same level as Hendrix or JB or Elvis, but pretty close. The crazy stuff surrounding the name change was just a phase. But I really hope he'll make another great album! He said he withdrew the Black Album because "when we die, we will be remembered by the last thing we did" And I dont want to remember him from Do't U Wanna Fall in Love 2Nite or Prerzlbodylogic!

I don't think that statement is really true for musical artists. I believe the overall body of work speaks more than the last album. Having said that, I DO believe that certain things outside of music (like nipplegate for Janet Jackson or the anti-Bush statements from Dixie Chicks, etc) can really harm an artist even IF the music is outstanding afterward.

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Reply #47 posted 03/17/14 6:16am

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He will be remembered for his vocal acrobatics, his Purple Rain album and controversial appearances during the 80s.

Prince dominated the 80s with his style and persona, I think that alone gives him an iconic status.

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Reply #48 posted 03/17/14 6:17am

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Se7en said:

SuperSoulFighter said:

And to answer the question, I think Prince will be remembered as one of the best rock musicians of his generation. Not on the same level as Hendrix or JB or Elvis, but pretty close. The crazy stuff surrounding the name change was just a phase. But I really hope he'll make another great album! He said he withdrew the Black Album because "when we die, we will be remembered by the last thing we did" And I dont want to remember him from Do't U Wanna Fall in Love 2Nite or Prerzlbodylogic!

I don't think that statement is really true for musical artists. I believe the overall body of work speaks more than the last album. Having said that, I DO believe that certain things outside of music (like nipplegate for Janet Jackson or the anti-Bush statements from Dixie Chicks, etc) can really harm an artist even IF the music is outstanding afterward.

I don't know, though. The day MJ died, EVERYONE was a fan again. Even people who weren't fans before. Watching the media do a complete 180 like it did, pretending the hadn't treated him like shit for the last 15 years of his life, was almost as hard to stomach as the fact that he was gone. So, at least as far as he was concerned, the negative wasn't much of a factor anymore.

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Reply #49 posted 03/17/14 7:04am

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Bambi82 said:

Se7en said:

I don't think that statement is really true for musical artists. I believe the overall body of work speaks more than the last album. Having said that, I DO believe that certain things outside of music (like nipplegate for Janet Jackson or the anti-Bush statements from Dixie Chicks, etc) can really harm an artist even IF the music is outstanding afterward.

I don't know, though. The day MJ died, EVERYONE was a fan again. Even people who weren't fans before. Watching the media do a complete 180 like it did, pretending the hadn't treated him like shit for the last 15 years of his life, was almost as hard to stomach as the fact that he was gone. So, at least as far as he was concerned, the negative wasn't much of a factor anymore.

I think all 'artists' are appreciated to a higher level after they die

No doubt everything will open up and people will discover Prince in a way they haven't been able to alive. ie videos, music, singles, concert footage, vault releases etc

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Reply #50 posted 03/17/14 10:18am

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I think his reputation for releasing great music has been tarnished over the last twenty years or so, to the point where today most biographies usually include a paragraph citing his lack of quality control (if they're being kind) in the latter part of his career.

I hear Purple Rain in shopping centres and it'll always be a staple of reality singing contests, so hopefully the quality of his best work is what is in the public psyche. Whether the media encourage the public to look beyond the hits is another matter but I hope some are intrigued.

I've sometimes thought that if he'd come to a sad end a la Buddy Holly in 1988 after the last of the Lovesexy gigs, his reputation would have been sky high (forgive the pun) forever more. He would truly have been up there with Michael Jackson in the public's eye and artistically he was beyond criticism.

As it stands, he will still receive alot of kudos for his career, but the latter part will be glossed over and the news snippets will just show some footage from Purple Rain and maybe a picture of him with 'slave' written on his cheek. That'll be it, and it'll be down to the music magazines and websites to truly spread the word about the sheer breadth of his abilities and achievements.

"I'm much too hot to be cool"
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Reply #51 posted 03/17/14 10:25am

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Scotsman1999 said:

I think his reputation for releasing great music has been tarnished over the last twenty years or so, to the point where today most biographies usually include a paragraph citing his lack of quality control (if they're being kind) in the latter part of his career.

I hear Purple Rain in shopping centres and it'll always be a staple of reality singing contests, so hopefully the quality of his best work is what is in the public psyche. Whether the media encourage the public to look beyond the hits is another matter but I hope some are intrigued.

I've sometimes thought that if he'd come to a sad end a la Buddy Holly in 1988 after the last of the Lovesexy gigs, his reputation would have been sky high (forgive the pun) forever more. He would truly have been up there with Michael Jackson in the public's eye and artistically he was beyond criticism.

As it stands, he will still receive alot of kudos for his career, but the latter part will be glossed over and the news snippets will just show some footage from Purple Rain and maybe a picture of him with 'slave' written on his cheek. That'll be it, and it'll be down to the music magazines and websites to truly spread the word about the sheer breadth of his abilities and achievements.

I wasn't ready. cry

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Reply #52 posted 03/17/14 10:37am

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Scotsman1999 said:

I think his reputation for releasing great music has been tarnished over the last twenty years or so, to the point where today most biographies usually include a paragraph citing his lack of quality control (if they're being kind) in the latter part of his career.

I hear Purple Rain in shopping centres and it'll always be a staple of reality singing contests, so hopefully the quality of his best work is what is in the public psyche. Whether the media encourage the public to look beyond the hits is another matter but I hope some are intrigued.

I've sometimes thought that if he'd come to a sad end a la Buddy Holly in 1988 after the last of the Lovesexy gigs, his reputation would have been sky high (forgive the pun) forever more. He would truly have been up there with Michael Jackson in the public's eye and artistically he was beyond criticism.

As it stands, he will still receive alot of kudos for his career, but the latter part will be glossed over and the news snippets will just show some footage from Purple Rain and maybe a picture of him with 'slave' written on his cheek. That'll be it, and it'll be down to the music magazines and websites to truly spread the word about the sheer breadth of his abilities and achievements.

what awards show a few years ago that had a 'Prince Tribute' where Patti Labelle hacked up Purple Rain?

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1st oof all... an extremely weak tribute

2nd Trey Songz and Patti Labelle (ROYALLY) jacked up Purple Rain

3rd all the songs performed where from his Classic period:Purple Rain, Let's Go Crazy If I Was Your Girlfriend & Adore

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It says a lot

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Reply #53 posted 03/17/14 10:58am

rafael

hopefully i will never know....

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Reply #54 posted 03/17/14 2:41pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Scotsman1999 said:

I think his reputation for releasing great music has been tarnished over the last twenty years or so, to the point where today most biographies usually include a paragraph citing his lack of quality control (if they're being kind) in the latter part of his career.

I hear Purple Rain in shopping centres and it'll always be a staple of reality singing contests, so hopefully the quality of his best work is what is in the public psyche. Whether the media encourage the public to look beyond the hits is another matter but I hope some are intrigued.

I've sometimes thought that if he'd come to a sad end a la Buddy Holly in 1988 after the last of the Lovesexy gigs, his reputation would have been sky high (forgive the pun) forever more. He would truly have been up there with Michael Jackson in the public's eye and artistically he was beyond criticism.

As it stands, he will still receive alot of kudos for his career, but the latter part will be glossed over and the news snippets will just show some footage from Purple Rain and maybe a picture of him with 'slave' written on his cheek. That'll be it, and it'll be down to the music magazines and websites to truly spread the word about the sheer breadth of his abilities and achievements.

what awards show a few years ago that had a 'Prince Tribute' where Patti Labelle hacked up Purple Rain?

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1st oof all... an extremely weak tribute

2nd Trey Songz and Patti Labelle (ROYALLY) jacked up Purple Rain

3rd all the songs performed where from his Classic period:Purple Rain, Let's Go Crazy If I Was Your Girlfriend & Adore

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It says a lot

That was the BET Awards, though.. they never really do it big.

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Reply #55 posted 03/17/14 5:38pm

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Everyone gets two deaths. The first and most obvious one is you die.

The second and final death, afforded to most people throughout history, is the last time someone on planet earth speaks your name or discusses you. After that, you're really gone.

Prince will be discussed far beyond you and me that's for sure.

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Reply #56 posted 03/17/14 5:48pm

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Marrk said:

Everyone gets two deaths. The first and most obvious one is you die.

The second and final death, afforded to very few throughout history, is the last time someone on planet earth speaks your name or discusses you. After that, you're really gone.

Prince will be discussed far beyond you and me that's for sure.

I got goosebumps. I had never thought of it this way.. neutral

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Reply #57 posted 03/17/14 6:04pm

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Bambi82 said:

Marrk said:

Everyone gets two deaths. The first and most obvious one is you die.

The second and final death, is the last time someone on planet earth speaks your name or discusses you. After that, you're really gone.

Prince will be discussed far beyond you and me that's for sure.

I got goosebumps. I had never thought of it this way.. neutral

Pity i messed up my original statement a bit. But someone told me that about twenty years ago and it kind of stuck with me. That will happen to most people. So we got to do what we can to be better while we're here.

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Reply #58 posted 03/17/14 6:14pm

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Marrk said:

Bambi82 said:

I got goosebumps. I had never thought of it this way.. neutral

Pity i messed up my original statement a bit. But someone told me that about twenty years ago and it kind of stuck with me. That will happen to most people. So we got to do what we can to be better while we're here.

[Edited 3/17/14 18:07pm]

Well you're my someone.. I will always remember that. The more you think about it the harder it is to comprehend.

How did you mess it up?

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Reply #59 posted 03/18/14 12:01pm

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In “Reconfigured,” we take liberties with revisionism by reediting, reimagining, and resequencing a particular album or albums in an effort to reconfigure the work into a stronger whole. Without a doubt, Prince’s musical output in the 1980s remains one of the most consistently innovative runs in pop music history. The only artists that immediately come to mind as matching or surpassing consistency, quality, and volume of Prince’s 1980s output are the similarly legendary runs of David Bowie and Stevie Wonder [...]

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