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Reply #90 posted 03/06/14 3:05pm

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Perhaps "Dudes" bump into Prince at partys because he's Cool as F*** and one of the biggest stars like erm EVER. Unfortunately for someone like him, that's the price of fame.

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This whole thread is bull cack.

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Reply #91 posted 03/06/14 3:18pm

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tobydavies said:

OP is an obvious troll.



Best ignored.


And here we are on page 4 already... bored2
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Reply #92 posted 03/06/14 3:19pm

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I'm gay as a $3 bill, out and proud. I have no problem with what Prince said AT ALL and I have no problem with some posters' humorous swipes at the OP AT ALL. Truth be told, if the concern trolls of this world spent as much time and energy fighting real, institutional homophobia (and other prejudices) as they do clutching pearls and sucking teeth over some hypersensitive "I know there's bigotry there somewhere!!!!" foolishness that only serves to distract and detract from the deserved targets, this world would be a much better place -- and my partner and I would have marriage rights instead of living under this state constitutional amendment that makes us second-class citizens.

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Reply #93 posted 03/06/14 3:23pm

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livewire said:

I'm gay as a $3 bill, out and proud. I have no problem with what Prince said AT ALL and I have no problem with some posters' humorous swipes at the OP AT ALL. Truth be told, if the concern trolls of this world spent as much time and energy fighting real, institutional homophobia (and other prejudices) as they do clutching pearls and sucking teeth over some hypersensitive "I know there's bigotry there somewhere!!!!" foolishness that only serves to distract and detract from the deserved targets, this world would be a much better place -- and my partner and I would have marriage rights instead of living under this state constitutional amendment that makes us second-class citizens.

Well said. Unfortunately, it's unlikley to break through the OP's self-importance.

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Reply #94 posted 03/06/14 4:11pm

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SuperSoulFighter said:

tobydavies said:

OP is an obvious troll.

Best ignored.

And here we are on page 4 already... bored2

You love it.

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Reply #95 posted 03/06/14 4:12pm

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filthyrichyuppie said:

In all your verbiage there's absoluely nothing new in terms of what's been brought up already - all of which I've sucessfully countered. I can't keep repeating myself.

Do you feel less accepted in the world because Prince might not let you sit on his lap?? Its ok dude, its not necessarily a homophobia thing as Im sure many gay people wouldn't want to be accosted by you either.

Pitiful. Just pitiful.

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Reply #96 posted 03/06/14 4:14pm

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Mindflux said:

livewire said:

I'm gay as a $3 bill, out and proud. I have no problem with what Prince said AT ALL and I have no problem with some posters' humorous swipes at the OP AT ALL. Truth be told, if the concern trolls of this world spent as much time and energy fighting real, institutional homophobia (and other prejudices) as they do clutching pearls and sucking teeth over some hypersensitive "I know there's bigotry there somewhere!!!!" foolishness that only serves to distract and detract from the deserved targets, this world would be a much better place -- and my partner and I would have marriage rights instead of living under this state constitutional amendment that makes us second-class citizens.

Well said. Unfortunately, it's unlikley to break through the OP's self-importance.

I love all the ad hominems. In debating circles, it's known as the weakest argument there is.

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Reply #97 posted 03/06/14 4:17pm

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livewire said:

I'm gay as a $3 bill, out and proud. I have no problem with what Prince said AT ALL and I have no problem with some posters' humorous swipes at the OP AT ALL. Truth be told, if the concern trolls of this world spent as much time and energy fighting real, institutional homophobia (and other prejudices) as they do clutching pearls and sucking teeth over some hypersensitive "I know there's bigotry there somewhere!!!!" foolishness that only serves to distract and detract from the deserved targets, this world would be a much better place -- and my partner and I would have marriage rights instead of living under this state constitutional amendment that makes us second-class citizens.

So, your problem is not with bigots but with people who don't act on their bogotry. Now I got you.

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Reply #98 posted 03/06/14 4:45pm

Mindflux

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filthyrichyuppie said:

Mindflux said:

Well said. Unfortunately, it's unlikley to break through the OP's self-importance.

I love all the ad hominems. In debating circles, it's known as the weakest argument there is.

That statement wasn't made to argue against your case (which also means it's not an ad hominem!). But thanks for proving my point.

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Reply #99 posted 03/06/14 4:56pm

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Here we go again...he should shut the shop. I would...
If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.

"True to his status as the last enigma in music, Prince crashed into London this week in a ball of confusion" The Times 2014
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Reply #100 posted 03/06/14 4:56pm

nursev

Prince needs personal space like we all do...I wish a bitch would try to sit in my lap!
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Reply #101 posted 03/06/14 5:05pm

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filthyrichyuppie said:

livewire said:

I'm gay as a $3 bill, out and proud. I have no problem with what Prince said AT ALL and I have no problem with some posters' humorous swipes at the OP AT ALL. Truth be told, if the concern trolls of this world spent as much time and energy fighting real, institutional homophobia (and other prejudices) as they do clutching pearls and sucking teeth over some hypersensitive "I know there's bigotry there somewhere!!!!" foolishness that only serves to distract and detract from the deserved targets, this world would be a much better place -- and my partner and I would have marriage rights instead of living under this state constitutional amendment that makes us second-class citizens.

So, your problem is not with bigots but with people who don't act on their bogotry. Now I got you.

No, you CLEARLY haven't "got me" at all. In fact, if that nonsense you posted is what you took from my comments then I'm not responding any further because I'll just end up making myself crazy by engaging you. Carry on...

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Reply #102 posted 03/06/14 5:19pm

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edster777 said:

Perhaps "Dudes" bump into Prince at partys because he's Cool as F*** and one of the biggest stars like erm EVER. Unfortunately for someone like him, that's the price of fame.

doody

This whole thread is bull cack.

I bumped into him once and totally freaked the fuck out. But remember, he is talking about dudes and not 3rdeyedudes.

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Reply #103 posted 03/06/14 5:53pm

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Mindflux said:

filthyrichyuppie said:

I love all the ad hominems. In debating circles, it's known as the weakest argument there is.

That statement wasn't made to argue against your case (which also means it's not an ad hominem!). But thanks for proving my point.

Sorry, do u know what ad hominem means? You just admitted to it again.

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Reply #104 posted 03/06/14 6:24pm

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By chance, did the OP of this thread write this article or is it merely coincidence?

http://gawker.com/prince-...1537896202

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Reply #105 posted 03/06/14 6:59pm

wonder505

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I dont see anything wrong with that. As a female my friends and I get together and talk about how much we dont like when "dudes" do it towards us and we're straight. But no one will make a big deal about that.

Just another case of overuse of political correctness.

You're not a straight man so it has no gay connotations when it happens to you.

I'm the exact hetereo version of this scenario and nobody will think that my reaction is wrong. but if i were a guy then it becomes "homophobic"

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Reply #106 posted 03/06/14 8:36pm

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UncleGrandpa said:

By chance, did the OP of this thread write this article or is it merely coincidence?



http://gawker.com/prince-...1537896202


Got to be the same...

STFU
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Reply #107 posted 03/06/14 8:41pm

Stymie

You are not the only person to feel this way. Two of my friends, both long time orgers, have expressed sadness at this.
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Reply #108 posted 03/06/14 9:09pm

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Some people in this politically correct world like nothing more than to look for reasons to be offended even when no offence was intended.

These people suck.

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Censorship is ALWAYS wrong, no matter who is doing it or how noble their motivation.
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Reply #109 posted 03/07/14 2:04am

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I thought it was a typically tired expression of thinly veiled homophobia. It reminded me of a time on some live boot (is it the Celebration?) where a guy from the crowd screams "I love you, Prince!" and Prince says something like, "Whoaa, that voice was WAY too deep to be saying 'I love you'", with his voice dripping with disgust. (As if saying you love a music icon at a concert means you want to have gay sex with them then and there).

This example on Arsenio was to me much less blatant than that, but the sentiment is still there.

No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.

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Reply #110 posted 03/07/14 2:26am

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theblueangel said:

I thought it was a typically tired expression of thinly veiled homophobia. It reminded me of a time on some live boot (is it the Celebration?) where a guy from the crowd screams "I love you, Prince!" and Prince says something like, "Whoaa, that voice was WAY too deep to be saying 'I love you'", with his voice dripping with disgust. (As if saying you love a music icon at a concert means you want to have gay sex with them then and there).

This example on Arsenio was to me much less blatant than that, but the sentiment is still there.


Wth?

Crazy.

:nuts:

I really cant believe how much people read into things.
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Reply #111 posted 03/07/14 3:05am

dJJ

theblueangel said:

I thought it was a typically tired expression of thinly veiled homophobia. It reminded me of a time on some live boot (is it the Celebration?) where a guy from the crowd screams "I love you, Prince!" and Prince says something like, "Whoaa, that voice was WAY too deep to be saying 'I love you'", with his voice dripping with disgust. (As if saying you love a music icon at a concert means you want to have gay sex with them then and there).

This example on Arsenio was to me much less blatant than that, but the sentiment is still there.




I don't think he was being homophobic at the Arsenio Hall show.

However, that does not mean he is not homophobic.


I just haven't seen any homophobic expressions by him the last 2 years.

If he is, he seems to be bothered by male homoseksuality. I did not hear any example of disdainful remarks about female homoseksuality?


And I don't have the same ideas and worldview I had when I was 20. So, I don't hold it against people if they change their views.


So, labeling Prince as homophobic for something he produced 20 years ago, is not fair, imo.





99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #112 posted 03/07/14 3:31am

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wonder505 said:



robertgeorgeakabob said:


wonder505 said:




I dont see anything wrong with that. As a female my friends and I get together and talk about how much we dont like when "dudes" do it towards us and we're straight. But no one will make a big deal about that.



Just another case of overuse of political correctness.



You're not a straight man so it has no gay connotations when it happens to you.


I'm the exact hetereo version of this scenario and nobody will think that my reaction is wrong. but if i were a guy then it becomes "homophobic"



There is no hetero version. You just don't get it so no point continuing.
don't play me...i'm over 30 and i DO smoke weed....
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Reply #113 posted 03/07/14 3:47am

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The person who started this thread apparently isn't the only one to think this...

http://gawker.com/prince-and-his-gay-panic-took-over-last-nights-arsenio-1537896202?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

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Reply #114 posted 03/07/14 3:53am

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Here is the whole article. This does not express my opinion by the way.

Prince "took over" last night's episode of The Arsenio Hall Show, appearing in virtually every segment in some form. He played new songs with his band 3rd Eye Girl (including one called "Funknroll," which sounded exactly like you'd expect a 2014 Prince song with that title to sound), and fan favorite b-side "She's Always in My Hair" (which 3rd Eye Girl helped make more roll than funk). He sat on Arsenio's couch and talked about not having a cell phone (he doesn't need one, since everyone else around him has one). He fielded audience questions, revealing in the process that he recently watched the "Take Me With You" part of Purple Rain, he doesn't know what an infomercial is, and he likes to cook but can only make one thing: omelets. He joked that his friends have high cholesterol, which was about as humorous as he got.

He also expressed mild gay panic twice. Discussing his pet peeve of people touching his hair (which is reasonable and, from what I can tell as a result of having a friend with a giant afro, probably comes up way too often given the current state of Prince's 'do), he talked about an Oscars party he attended, in which several people bumped into his bird-boned frame. "It's mostly dudes," he said, wincing and shaking off the willies that just talking about such abominable contact inflicts.

Then, Arsenio had a guy come out to solicit relationship advice (the results were boring and ended up with Prince dumping this guy's girl for him, I think?). After approaching, the guy joked about sitting in Prince's lap. The joke sat about as well as a dude sitting in Prince's lap.

Prince is under no contract to accept any sort of male-on-male contact, and it doesn't make him a homophobe per se, though his supposed anti-gay marriage comment (which "a Prince source" l...a misquote) and his more recent refusal to discuss the issue at all, make his expressed disgust at the idea of so much being grazed by another penis-having individual unsurprising. Let's add recent, seemingly anti-bi...to the pot. Mostly, it's just disappointing to watch a guy whose highly profitable image was based in part on playing with people's perceptions of his sexuality and masculinity ("Am I black or white? Am I straight or gay?" he sang on the title track of his fourth album, Controversy), reduce himself to this uptight dude's dude stereotype. Prince was once so comfortable with his sexuality that he sang a song about jacking a person off (probably a woman, but still), that he gender-fucked for the sake of exploring connection with a woman ("If I Was Your Girlfriend"), that he wore heels. (Does he still wear heels? It'd be cool if he still wore heels.) Now he's a guy who cringes at the prospect of contact with another dude.

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Reply #115 posted 03/07/14 4:56am

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no. prince never expressed anything even remotely homophobic in nature. he commented about NOTHING MORE than being bumped into and i totally see what he's saying. it's why i hate crowded rooms. men bump more than women because they generally show less awareness of how they conduct themselves in crowded space than do women. the writer of the article took it a step further and projected homophobia onto prince. now stop trolling

He also expressed mild gay panic twice. Discussing his pet peeve of people touching his hair (which is reasonable and, from what I can tell as a result of having a friend with a giant afro, probably comes up way too often given the current state of Prince's 'do), he talked about an Oscars party he attended, in which several people bumped into his bird-boned frame. "It's mostly dudes," he said, wincing and shaking off the willies that just talking about such abominable contact inflicts.

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Reply #116 posted 03/07/14 5:10am

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Prince has come out with some shit in the past, but this was a whole lot of nothing.

Bzzzzt, next.

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Reply #117 posted 03/07/14 6:05am

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Prince has come out with some shit in the past, but this was a whole lot of nothing.

Bzzzzt, next.

EXACTLY! Lock this stupid thread! Its these type of people.... wacky

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Reply #118 posted 03/07/14 7:46am

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Prince needs personal space like we all do...I wish a bitch would try to sit in my lap!

whats even more scary is that the dudes 'straight"

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Reply #119 posted 03/07/14 7:53am

luvsexy4all

he has boxed himself into a corner ....now ANY and EVERYTHING he says is harped on....release the music already and keeps these sick minds busy

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