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Reply #30 posted 03/06/14 8:49am

luvsexy4all

guess the owner of this thread enjoys being bumped by ANYONE.

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Reply #31 posted 03/06/14 8:49am

lezama

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A man as effeminate as Prince has always been is bound to have spent his whole life approached and accosted by dudes wanting to get with him. But if that's not what he wants, then thats his decision. You can't force him to like or want what he doesn't want. Being faux offended by his lack of desire to be accosted by men is just as bad me being offended that you don't like women. Its your life, you live it. Its his life, let him live his and be happy.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #32 posted 03/06/14 8:50am

luvsexy4all

he missed yet again a golden opp to mention the spirit

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Reply #33 posted 03/06/14 8:53am

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skywalker said:

filthyrichyuppie said:

Yes, but that was something he couldn't control. This was. Big difference.

[Edited 3/5/14 21:09pm]

I am unclear on what you are referencing? What could he control on Arsenio? The dude asking to sit in his lap?

No. You just changed the subject. He made his comment unsolicited. The dude sittting on his lap happened after.

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Reply #34 posted 03/06/14 8:55am

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GoldenParachute said:

What a dumbass thread. Lock this ish. Seriously? You cant understand the importance of personal space? Why dont you stop projecting your own insecurities about others being homophobic and realize that its perfectly fine and in fact, normal to not want strangers touching on you and kept at a distance.

I can't keep repeating myself. This isn't my point. Read the thread a bit more.

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Reply #35 posted 03/06/14 8:57am

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MJ007 said:

Why, are you the one that bumped into him? If it's his experience that men tend to bump into him and he doesn't like it, then it's valid. It doesn't make him "the worst" or "ignorant". You don't have enough info to call him ignorant concerning this because you are not the one walking in his shoes. Why are you taking what pisses him off so personally? Sounds like an issue of transference.

Transferance. Nice. Again, though. Not my point.

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Reply #36 posted 03/06/14 8:57am

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HonestMan13 said:

Militant said:

It's about personal space. Nothing else.

It's also about stupid threads started by trolls.

Troll. haaa. What year is this?

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Reply #37 posted 03/06/14 8:59am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Prince dislikes men, you knew that. I hate it when anybody bumps up against me.

You saying he's homophobic? I just like that he didn't talk about religion. He eats omelets, a must. lol.

It's just an observation about his humor. I've obviously hit home with some the bots, though.

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Reply #38 posted 03/06/14 9:01am

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luvsexy4all said:

guess the owner of this thread enjoys being bumped by ANYONE.

Reading these responses has been enlightening.

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Reply #39 posted 03/06/14 9:27am

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Have you ever actually been close to Prince? The man is tiny. Like...the size of a very small woman. I don't know many 5' 2", fragile women who would want guys bumping into them, either.

You found something to pick on in the interview at which no one else took umbrage. I think the fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the star, but in yourself.

[Edited 3/6/14 9:27am]

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Reply #40 posted 03/06/14 9:38am

Byron

Did you see the way he reacted to Sherri on The View saying she wanted to make love to him?...Dude damn near ran off the stage in mid-interview lol. His heterophobia was on full display there. Or his bigoted views towards black women...or round black women. Whatever. I just know it points to something bad I should be criticizing him over.

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Reply #41 posted 03/06/14 9:44am

Genesia

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^ lol

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Reply #42 posted 03/06/14 9:50am

MJ007

filthyrichyuppie said:

MJ007 said:

Why, are you the one that bumped into him? If it's his experience that men tend to bump into him and he doesn't like it, then it's valid. It doesn't make him "the worst" or "ignorant". You don't have enough info to call him ignorant concerning this because you are not the one walking in his shoes. Why are you taking what pisses him off so personally? Sounds like an issue of transference.

Transferance. Nice. Again, though. Not my point.

The point is, you don't have a point. What you have is an opinion. You feel that Prince expressed some type of homophobia because he doesn't like people bumping into him, men being the major culprits. You don't know Prince. So all you have is your interpretation of what he said and your judgement of it which was clear when you threw in words like "ignorant" and "worst". Arsenio moved away from the subject because there was nothing to belabor - much like this thread. C'ya.

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Reply #43 posted 03/06/14 9:57am

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MJ007 said:

filthyrichyuppie said:

Transferance. Nice. Again, though. Not my point.

The point is, you don't have a point. What you have is an opinion. You feel that Prince expressed some type of homophobia because he doesn't like people bumping into him, men being the major culprits. You don't know Prince. So all you have is your interpretation of what he said and your judgement of it which was clear when you threw in words like "ignorant" and "worst". Arsenio moved away from the subject because there was nothing to belabor - much like this thread. C'ya.

Ok, For all those with a penchant for kneejerkism. Here's my point:

My focus is on what he considers to be humor. For him, it's funny to make jokes about the proximity between men ergo homosexuality. It's tacit, I agree, but we all get the implication - it just 'aint right. This shows his age and, to quote a well worn phrase of late, puts him on the "wrong side of history".

It's kind of like racists who don't claim to racist because it's only a joke.

I coudn''t care less how he deals with it when he's at parties. I also don't have an opinion when it comes to my own personal space. Please, it's getting tiring. I'm responding to his sense of humor.

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Reply #44 posted 03/06/14 9:58am

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Byron said:

Did you see the way he reacted to Sherri on The View saying she wanted to make love to him?...Dude damn near ran off the stage in mid-interview lol. His heterophobia was on full display there. Or his bigoted views towards black women...or round black women. Whatever. I just know it points to something bad I should be criticizing him over.

That was thrust upon him. He had to make a show of reacting. Last night, his comments were unsolicited. Big difference. I also made this comment earlier. Please read the thread. Thank you.

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Reply #45 posted 03/06/14 9:59am

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Genesia said:

Have you ever actually been close to Prince? The man is tiny. Like...the size of a very small woman. I don't know many 5' 2", fragile women who would want guys bumping into them, either.

You found something to pick on in the interview at which no one else took umbrage. I think the fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the star, but in yourself.

[Edited 3/6/14 9:27am]

Quoting Shakespeare won't get you far on this forum. You should know better.

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Reply #46 posted 03/06/14 10:00am

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I've strayed over here from the concerts forum. I'm heading back, this is mentals.

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Reply #47 posted 03/06/14 10:02am

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onlymatt said:

I've strayed over here from the concerts forum. I'm heading back, this is mentals.

C'ya

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Reply #48 posted 03/06/14 10:12am

jon1967

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Reply #49 posted 03/06/14 10:34am

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Life must be tough when you're an OP who can't find a single person on a whole forum that agrees with his completely baseless and nonsensical opinion.

[Edited 3/6/14 12:01pm]

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Reply #50 posted 03/06/14 10:41am

Genesia

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Militant said:

Life must be when you're an OP who can't find a single person on a whole forum that agrees with his completely baseless and nonsensical opinion.


I'm not 100% sure, but it might be an org first. lol

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Reply #51 posted 03/06/14 10:59am

Byron

Genesia said:

Militant said:

Life must be when you're an OP who can't find a single person on a whole forum that agrees with his completely baseless and nonsensical opinion.


I'm not 100% sure, but it might be an org first. lol


I just assumed it's because Bart hasn't seen the thread yet lol...

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Reply #52 posted 03/06/14 11:14am

dJJ

filthyrichyuppie said:

MJ007 said:

The point is, you don't have a point. What you have is an opinion. You feel that Prince expressed some type of homophobia because he doesn't like people bumping into him, men being the major culprits. You don't know Prince. So all you have is your interpretation of what he said and your judgement of it which was clear when you threw in words like "ignorant" and "worst". Arsenio moved away from the subject because there was nothing to belabor - much like this thread. C'ya.

Ok, For all those with a penchant for kneejerkism. Here's my point:

My focus is on what he considers to be humor. For him, it's funny to make jokes about the proximity between men ergo homosexuality. It's tacit, I agree, but we all get the implication - it just 'aint right. This shows his age and, to quote a well worn phrase of late, puts him on the "wrong side of history".

It's kind of like racists who don't claim to racist because it's only a joke.

I coudn''t care less how he deals with it when he's at parties. I also don't have an opinion when it comes to my own personal space. Please, it's getting tiring. I'm responding to his sense of humor.

I understand what you are saying. And yes, very often men joking about man to man contact is a form of hidden homophobia.


However, in this case it's not. He also humorized his statement of disliking people who touch his hair. That is just his style.

And about the man-to-man contact:


1. Prince is afraid of germs. His anxiety about germs and/or bacteria is so intense, that it influences his behavior.

2. And because he is somewhat famous, some people feel the need to be close to him. Physically I mean. So, people will touch his hair, his clothes or 'accidently bump into him'.

3. Prince is no giant. So, in crowded spaces, the petite ones get bumped into a lot. And that is annoying.

ergo

Prince does not want people to come close to him, let alone touch him.


It was Arsenio who made the joke about it always are men bumping into you, never the beautiful women. - Wich in Prince his case, I doubt, btw - . If you paid attention, Prince responds very neutral to that "joke". So, if you want to read the implied homophobia or sexism in the incident, I think you should adress Arsenio, not Prince.

I get your point, but this time I think you were not on point.


In general though, yes, laughing about man-to-man contact is a form of hidden homophobia.

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #53 posted 03/06/14 11:21am

tobydavies

OP is an obvious troll.

Best ignored.

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Reply #54 posted 03/06/14 11:24am

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Genesia said:

Militant said:

Life must be when you're an OP who can't find a single person on a whole forum that agrees with his completely baseless and nonsensical opinion.


I'm not 100% sure, but it might be an org first. lol

Well, considering you guys don't know what you're arguing against, I consider that a compliment. Besides, it's good to be on the other side of concensus. Who want's conformity?

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Reply #55 posted 03/06/14 11:25am

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tobydavies said:

OP is an obvious troll.

Best ignored.

Troll. Ha-ha. What year is this?

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Reply #56 posted 03/06/14 11:26am

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dJJ said:

filthyrichyuppie said:

Ok, For all those with a penchant for kneejerkism. Here's my point:

My focus is on what he considers to be humor. For him, it's funny to make jokes about the proximity between men ergo homosexuality. It's tacit, I agree, but we all get the implication - it just 'aint right. This shows his age and, to quote a well worn phrase of late, puts him on the "wrong side of history".

It's kind of like racists who don't claim to racist because it's only a joke.

I coudn''t care less how he deals with it when he's at parties. I also don't have an opinion when it comes to my own personal space. Please, it's getting tiring. I'm responding to his sense of humor.

I understand what you are saying. And yes, very often men joking about man to man contact is a form of hidden homophobia.


However, in this case it's not. He also humorized his statement of disliking people who touch his hair. That is just his style.

And about the man-to-man contact:


1. Prince is afraid of germs. His anxiety about germs and/or bacteria is so intense, that it influences his behavior.

2. And because he is somewhat famous, some people feel the need to be close to him. Physically I mean. So, people will touch his hair, his clothes or 'accidently bump into him'.

3. Prince is no giant. So, in crowded spaces, the petite ones get bumped into a lot. And that is annoying.

ergo

Prince does not want people to come close to him, let alone touch him.


It was Arsenio who made the joke about it always are men bumping into you, never the beautiful women. - Wich in Prince his case, I doubt, btw - . If you paid attention, Prince responds very neutral to that "joke". So, if you want to read the implied homophobia or sexism in the incident, I think you should adress Arsenio, not Prince.

I get your point, but this time I think you were not on point.


In general though, yes, laughing about man-to-man contact is a form of hidden homophobia.

Here's someone that agrees with me (kinda)! The good guys fight back!

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Reply #57 posted 03/06/14 11:35am

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Militant said:

Life must be when you're an OP who can't find a single person on a whole forum that agrees with his completely baseless and nonsensical opinion.

I didn't know it was so easy to touch a nerve here. Why is that?

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Reply #58 posted 03/06/14 11:41am

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filthyrichyuppie said:

dJJ said:

I understand what you are saying. And yes, very often men joking about man to man contact is a form of hidden homophobia.


However, in this case it's not. He also humorized his statement of disliking people who touch his hair. That is just his style.

And about the man-to-man contact:


1. Prince is afraid of germs. His anxiety about germs and/or bacteria is so intense, that it influences his behavior.

2. And because he is somewhat famous, some people feel the need to be close to him. Physically I mean. So, people will touch his hair, his clothes or 'accidently bump into him'.

3. Prince is no giant. So, in crowded spaces, the petite ones get bumped into a lot. And that is annoying.

ergo

Prince does not want people to come close to him, let alone touch him.


It was Arsenio who made the joke about it always are men bumping into you, never the beautiful women. - Wich in Prince his case, I doubt, btw - . If you paid attention, Prince responds very neutral to that "joke". So, if you want to read the implied homophobia or sexism in the incident, I think you should adress Arsenio, not Prince.

I get your point, but this time I think you were not on point.


In general though, yes, laughing about man-to-man contact is a form of hidden homophobia.

Here's someone that agrees with me (kinda)! The good guys fight back!

Which (kinda) goes to show how generally poor your interpretations appear to be. He's agreeing with the point that joking about man-to-man contact can generally be hidden homophobia, but that, in this instance (this instance being the case you and you alone raised) it patently wasn't. That's not agreement - that's pointing out that, in this case, you are wrong.

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Reply #59 posted 03/06/14 11:49am

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Mindflux said:

filthyrichyuppie said:

Here's someone that agrees with me (kinda)! The good guys fight back!

Which (kinda) goes to show how generally poor your interpretations appear to be. He's agreeing with the point that joking about man-to-man contact can generally be hidden homophobia, but that, in this instance (this instance being the case you and you alone raised) it patently wasn't. That's not agreement - that's pointing out that, in this case, you are wrong.

The fact that you feel this instance wasn't homophobia is, of course, your opinion as well - which makes it just as baseless as mine (apparently).

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