“Jimmy Page was cool, but he couldn't keep a sequence without John Bonham behind him.”

So what did Prince mean with this line? i thought he was a Led Zeppelin fan

Yes I would agree that was a diss.

Sorry Prince...

thebanishedone said:

“Jimmy Page was cool, but he couldn't keep a sequence without John Bonham behind him.”

So what did Prince mean with this line? i thought he was a Led Zeppelin fan

I don't think that comment (assuming it was reported in context) and being a Led Zep fan are mutually exclusive.

Jimmy Page would SMOKE Prince on guitar!! I really don't know why he would say that since he is trying to rock album and he is alienating guitar lover fans as Jimmy Page is one of the absolute best. Prince even stole from Jimmy Page on that Pretzel song(as well as stealing from Black Sabbath's Ironman.) Prince can talk smack when it comes to funk, ballads or live shows but as a guitarists he is good(ok at times great) but he is no Jimmy Page. I hope Jimmy Page responds but I am sure he will take the classier high road as that was pretty classless by Prince in my opinion to dogg a guitar legend like that. Then again that's Prince. He never was the smartest cookie on the block when it came to self promoting.

No Jimmy Page wouldn't smoke Prince on guitar! Get the fuck out of here with that stealing bullshit because Jimmy Page stole from many blues & folk artists! Do your research before you make a dumb ass comment like that!

trax said:

Jimmy Page would SMOKE Prince on guitar!! I really don't know why he would say that since he is trying to rock album and he is alienating guitar lover fans as Jimmy Page is one of the absolute best. Prince even stole from Jimmy Page on that Pretzel song(as well as stealing from Black Sabbath's Ironman.) Prince can talk smack when it comes to funk, ballads or live shows but as a guitarists he is good(ok at times great) but he is no Jimmy Page. I hope Jimmy Page responds but I am sure he will take the classier high road as that was pretty classless by Prince in my opinion to dogg a guitar legend like that. Then again that's Prince. He never was the smartest cookie on the block when it came to self promoting.

I haven't read the article yet (just some stuff I've seen here), but I don't even know what it's supposed to mean--what is "keep[ing] a sequence"? Is this a criticism of Page or a compliment to Bonham? Is he responding to a comparison of the 3rd Eye Girl sound to Zeppelin, or of his sound (without concern for the rest of the band) to Page, and might he be trying to make the interviewer hear the interplay between musicians? Is it just a flippant, somewhat angry response, or does it actually mean something? Is Prince claiming that he (Prince) can "keep a sequence" without a (good/great/whatever he thinks of Bonham) drummer behind him? Is he praising Hannah and the rest of the band (whether you agree with his assessment or not)--as in, what made Page what he was is that he had Bonham (and one assumes Jones as well--Plant doesn't quite fit here), and what makes this work is that I've got this band. I just plain don't know--remember that Prince has used Zeppelin as a way of challenging the idea that he drew solely on the obvious Hendrix/Santana sources--perhaps he just wanted to distance himself from the idea that he's drawing too exclusively on Zeppelin as a source here, and either said it awkwardly or has been innacurately quoted (as he'll probably claim through some intermediary--oh the wonders of not allowing recordings). Beats me.

air said:

no longer a trend setter or innovator.

I'd say that his business decisions post-WB - present are very much innovative and trendsetting

It's probably supposed to be a "sum is greater than its parts" type of a statement. The way he chooses his words these days is just

If everyone on this site is entitled to post their "opinions"(despite what we all think of them) then why can't Prince air his? He's a musician talking about music/musicians. Not a mailman or a dentist talking about some shit they know next to nothing about!

air said:

Eric Leeds told us, almost everything Prince does is contrived. Prince thrives and operates on Controversy. On "The Truth" album/song he basically says don't believe any of the crap I say, and I don't. 2014 Prince is a 24/7 caricature of a 1960/1970/1980's rock&roll star, no longer a trend setter or innovator.

p just wants to 'mention' these bands ...

I didn´t read that as a diss at all, he´s been paying respect to Led Zep since at least the ONA tour, covering their trademark song and mentioning them in liner notes and interviews. Dude can´t even say a single sentence these days without folks overanalyzing him.

This being said, the same can be said about Prince, too...he just sounds better with Michael Bland and Sonny.

with Prince........nobody knows

and sadly I don't think people care anymore

just release 3RDEYESNORE and be done with it!!

I doubt Jimmy Page cares much about what Prince thinks

come on people, page was quite often a sloppy player, but thats were his magic came from. and bonham held the grooves together. prince really didnt say anything untrue.

page is one of the best ever!! He is in everyones top 10 of alltime. He has created some of the best rock music of all time and Prince's hardest hitting rock song can't come close to Zeppelin. Sorry it just doesnt.

Jboogiee said:

No Jimmy Page wouldn't smoke Prince on guitar! Get the fuck out of here with that stealing bullshit because Jimmy Page stole from many blues & folk artists! Do your research before you make a dumb ass comment like that!

trax said:

Jimmy Page would SMOKE Prince on guitar!! I really don't know why he would say that since he is trying to rock album and he is alienating guitar lover fans as Jimmy Page is one of the absolute best. Prince even stole from Jimmy Page on that Pretzel song(as well as stealing from Black Sabbath's Ironman.) Prince can talk smack when it comes to funk, ballads or live shows but as a guitarists he is good(ok at times great) but he is no Jimmy Page. I hope Jimmy Page responds but I am sure he will take the classier high road as that was pretty classless by Prince in my opinion to dogg a guitar legend like that. Then again that's Prince. He never was the smartest cookie on the block when it came to self promoting.

So are you saying Prince is better that Jimmy Page?

trax said:

Jboogiee said:

No Jimmy Page wouldn't smoke Prince on guitar! Get the fuck out of here with that stealing bullshit because Jimmy Page stole from many blues & folk artists! Do your research before you make a dumb ass comment like that!

So are you saying Prince is better that Jimmy Page?

It depends. If we look just from a technical aspect than Prince is much better

,he picks faster,cleaner.

But in terms of who is more important to electric guitar

and who influenced more people to play guitar Jimmy wins.

ARock said:

If I'm being completely honest, I hate when Prince does interviews. 9 times out of ten he says something that rubs me the wrong way. The man has the right to his own opinion I just have no intrest I just wanna hear the music.

I feel the same way.These recent interviews make me long for the days when he didn't do interviews at all

1st up Prince often says some dodgy things in interviews - made worse by no notebooks or recording (at least that allows him to retract or say he was mis-interpreted).

2nd - all this "who is the best guitarist" is a load of tosh. Surely it all comes down to personal taste (in music) and whether you like the stule of one guitartist over another?

Can anyone really say that Page is better than Gilmour, or Santana or Hendrix, or Clapton or BB King for that matter? No! Because all of them play in a different style and predominently different types of music.

So, for example, I am not a big Led Zeppelin fan. I can understand their relevance, impact and influence and how groundbreaking they were in their day BUT personally out of their contemporaries I prefer Pink Floyd and therefore Gilmour's style versus Page. Is one better than the other?

Ultimately though I am a massive Prince fan (go figure I am on the ORG) and as such *I* prefer Prince's guitar playing BECAUSE I prefer Prince's music. One thing *for me* that sets him above the others that always appear above him in "greatest guitar player" lists is his versatility and ability to play very different styles of music and therefore guitar styles. I may well be wrong but for me Page is a rock guitarist and Clapton is a blues guitarist whereas say Prince has crossed many genre's in his career, inc rock, blues, jazz, pop, latin, funk, soul and so on.

If I remember correctly Led Zeppelin was sued a while back for stealing (Copywright Infringement) material from Bluesman Robert Johnson.

trax said:

Jimmy Page would SMOKE Prince on guitar!! I really don't know why he would say that since he is trying to rock album and he is alienating guitar lover fans as Jimmy Page is one of the absolute best. Prince even stole from Jimmy Page on that Pretzel song(as well as stealing from Black Sabbath's Ironman.) Prince can talk smack when it comes to funk, ballads or live shows but as a guitarists he is good(ok at times great) but he is no Jimmy Page. I hope Jimmy Page responds but I am sure he will take the classier high road as that was pretty classless by Prince in my opinion to dogg a guitar legend like that. Then again that's Prince. He never was the smartest cookie on the block when it came to self promoting.

Good call my man! I remember Led Zeppelin being sued a while back for stealing material from Blues legend Robert Johnson. Don't get me wrong. I like Led Zeppelin but I wouldn't maka a comment like this guy has!

Jboogiee said:

No Jimmy Page wouldn't smoke Prince on guitar! Get the fuck out of here with that stealing bullshit because Jimmy Page stole from many blues & folk artists! Do your research before you make a dumb ass comment like that!

trax said:

Jimmy Page would SMOKE Prince on guitar!! I really don't know why he would say that since he is trying to rock album and he is alienating guitar lover fans as Jimmy Page is one of the absolute best. Prince even stole from Jimmy Page on that Pretzel song(as well as stealing from Black Sabbath's Ironman.) Prince can talk smack when it comes to funk, ballads or live shows but as a guitarists he is good(ok at times great) but he is no Jimmy Page. I hope Jimmy Page responds but I am sure he will take the classier high road as that was pretty classless by Prince in my opinion to dogg a guitar legend like that. Then again that's Prince. He never was the smartest cookie on the block when it came to self promoting.

SuperSoulFighter said:

Even Whole Lotta Love can be traced back to a Muddy Waters song called You Need Love.

yeah LZ took it from the small faces who got it from Muddy Waters who got it from Willy Dixon.

But in terms of who is better? Jimmy by a huge margin. It is ridiculous to even try to compare say " Achilles Last Stand" to anything price ever did.

Prince is very good....but Jimmy is in a different class.

think of it this way. there are famous people. and there are really famous people. and among the really famous there are a few that THEY look up to as really famous. Prince is a icon among icons. He is part of a very small class of celebrity..he is a celebrity among celebrities.

Well Prince is a guitar great... but Among the greats.... Jimmy flipping Page is great.

DBW said:

If I remember correctly Led Zeppelin was sued a while back for stealing (Copywright Infringement) material from Bluesman Robert Johnson.

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And prince has taken liberties with a few songs too... he has had typos that left true credit of some songs... he has won some and lost some. I think he did steal part of U Got the Look from his sister... he won that case but still he took "cooking in your book" from his own sister.

I'm pretty sure Jimmy Page didn't choose to play with John Bonham because he made him a worse guitar player

and proof Jimmy is better: Prince needed a back up guitarist when he covered Whole Lotta Love