I feel that plectrum electrum is a very importent cd/record for Prince , his first sort of proper release for years, the way he is pushing it and 3rdeyegirl. The media is starting to mention it. After following prince for about 16 years now with all the ups and downs, he needs this to be well received to really kick start a new era in his career. Or it could be back to greatest hits shows again! Inside am praying this album is bloody good!

I understand some of you points but i dont think he is a con artist. When you have written the amount of songs he has, the creative juices is bound to dry up from time to time. Thats why im hoping this group has inspired the writing juices again

antonb said:

I understand some of you points but i dont think he is a con artist. When you have written the amount of songs he has, the creative juices is bound to dry up from time to time. Thats why im hoping this group has inspired the writing juices again

Can we just leave the word juices outta the equation?

depends how your mind works i guess:lol:

antonb said:

I know what you mean, and i would have liked to have heard his version of the unexpected with vocals on the album as i think its a better song than what we have heard so far from Plectrum electrum. But from the mojo mag, some of the songs do sound intriguing.

I still think that prince would like a hit single and album, he does mension that box office is importent, I dont think he just means concert taking with that statement

Not really. I think the media has had very little faith and expectation in his studio work over the past 20 years, and post-Musicology that hasn't really hurt his kudos as a live performer and living legend - and I don't expect this album to change that.

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Any media outlet that gets an interview or something exclusive will likely give it a diplomatically positive review as always.

Given how '84, '94, 2004 have worked out for him, 2014 has to be good.

His legacy and his live reputation will always be there, even if it isnt any good, but i still feel that this could be an important album for him. It will enhance his standing at the moment and prove he can still deliver in the recording studio

SuperSoulFighter said:

antonb said:

I understand some of you points but i dont think he is a con artist. When you have written the amount of songs he has, the creative juices is bound to dry up from time to time. Thats why im hoping this group has inspired the writing juices again

Okay, I was joking when I said that. But so far I haven't heared any great sonwriting from him. Pretzelbodylogic is so much fun? I've heared it, I like it, but it's hardly the greatest thing he's ever done. So that's why I said what I said. He knows his reputation is based on the old stuff. And he's great onstage no matter who's in the band. So i don't have high hopes for a 3EzG album. But... I'm still curious...

No. With Shelby on stage, it was not as good as with Rosie Gaines. She has never been able to create hat powerful and energizing vibe like Rosie Gaines could. Shelby took energy, did not give it.

3EDGIRL create a very different vibe than Prince and Larry Graham.

It makes a lot of difference who he is playing with and who is playing with him.

wouldn't it be great if it were great?

but we know it already kind of sucks based on what we know will be on it

that's why he has to find a way to make $ on it - before it is released - and not in a traditional way

Define good.


There will be people who love the new album and there will be people who hate it.


And how valuable is an album sale (apart from the cash on the bank), if it sells just because it fits a certain temporary hype? Or not for that matter.

His last UK hit and run has caused a lot of buzz. And I enjoy reading the reviews. But what I enjoy especially, is reading the experiences of those who have been there. Their positive energy rubs off. Takes me back to some fantastic concert experiences I had and it makes me happy to know others have been so happy for a few hours too.

Not every song he produces has to be brilliant. I like different albums in different moods and in different phases in my life.

And why should this album be good for you. Maybe it's not going to be good in your opinion, but will it be fantastic in my opinion. Does the opinion of the masses reflect quality? Or does it merely reflect how a few key people love something, and because they do, the rest will follow and love it too? Nowadays Prince seems to be the best ever. But I remember the times when being a Prince fan was not aproved by the masses. It really doesn't matter, does it?

I'm looking forward to this album, because I know I will enjoy listening to some songs. But foremost, this album will be the music that I will associate with a phase in my life that has been rough, however relieved because the Prince concerts I went to, that made me happy. And when sad, I just think of those memories. And of course, a lot of orgers have been great friends to me and very supportive. So, beside the musical quality and the message of the album, to me, it's also about what Prince and his fans stand for.


No matter if that is aproved by the masses or not.

3rdeyedude said:

wouldn't it be great if it were great?

but we know it already kind of sucks based on what we know will be on it

that's why he has to find a way to make $ on it - before it is released - and not in a traditional way

That's fine by me.

As long as I can get a hold on an album.

dJJ said:

Define good.


There will be people who love the new album and there will be people who hate it.


And how valuable is an album sale (apart from the cash on the bank), if it sells just because it fits a certain temporary hype? Or not for that matter.

His last UK hit and run has caused a lot of buzz. And I enjoy reading the reviews. But what I enjoy especially, is reading the experiences of those who have been there. Their positive energy rubs off. Takes me back to some fantastic concert experiences I had and it makes me happy to know others have been so happy for a few hours too.

Not every song he produces has to be brilliant. I like different albums in different moods and in different phases in my life.

And why should this album be good for you. Maybe it's not going to be good in your opinion, but will it be fantastic in my opinion. Does the opinion of the masses reflect quality? Or does it merely reflect how a few key people love something, and because they do, the rest will follow and love it too? Nowadays Prince seems to be the best ever. But I remember the times when being a Prince fan was not aproved by the masses. It really doesn't matter, does it?

I'm looking forward to this album, because I know I will enjoy listening to some songs. But foremost, this album will be the music that I will associate with a phase in my life that has been rough, however relieved because the Prince concerts I went to, that made me happy. And when sad, I just think of those memories. And of course, a lot of orgers have been great friends to me and very supportive. So, beside the musical quality and the message of the album, to me, it's also about what Prince and his fans stand for.


No matter if that is aproved by the masses or not.

Yea yea, but I still want the album to be good. Would you like it if he did an instrumental of the birdie song? Saying that, it would be a hit record!

im sorry ignore that last post, that was too sarcastic

dJJ said:

Define good.


There will be people who love the new album and there will be people who hate it.


And how valuable is an album sale (apart from the cash on the bank), if it sells just because it fits a certain temporary hype? Or not for that matter.

His last UK hit and run has caused a lot of buzz. And I enjoy reading the reviews. But what I enjoy especially, is reading the experiences of those who have been there. Their positive energy rubs off. Takes me back to some fantastic concert experiences I had and it makes me happy to know others have been so happy for a few hours too.

Not every song he produces has to be brilliant. I like different albums in different moods and in different phases in my life.

And why should this album be good for you. Maybe it's not going to be good in your opinion, but will it be fantastic in my opinion. Does the opinion of the masses reflect quality? Or does it merely reflect how a few key people love something, and because they do, the rest will follow and love it too? Nowadays Prince seems to be the best ever. But I remember the times when being a Prince fan was not aproved by the masses. It really doesn't matter, does it?

I'm looking forward to this album, because I know I will enjoy listening to some songs. But foremost, this album will be the music that I will associate with a phase in my life that has been rough, however relieved because the Prince concerts I went to, that made me happy. And when sad, I just think of those memories. And of course, a lot of orgers have been great friends to me and very supportive. So, beside the musical quality and the message of the album, to me, it's also about what Prince and his fans stand for.


No matter if that is aproved by the masses or not.

No worries, I'm not personally hurt by critics.

And I understand that you want the album to be good. Just like most Prince fans. It's just that there never will be consensus about what is good.

And that is a good thing!


I like diversity and the freedom of expressing uniqueness without having to fear repercusssion.

And yes, I like instrumental songs by P. I don't always want to hear words, just music is liberating too.

antonb said:

im sorry ignore that last post, that was too sarcastic

dJJ said:

Define good.


There will be people who love the new album and there will be people who hate it.


And how valuable is an album sale (apart from the cash on the bank), if it sells just because it fits a certain temporary hype? Or not for that matter.

His last UK hit and run has caused a lot of buzz. And I enjoy reading the reviews. But what I enjoy especially, is reading the experiences of those who have been there. Their positive energy rubs off. Takes me back to some fantastic concert experiences I had and it makes me happy to know others have been so happy for a few hours too.

Not every song he produces has to be brilliant. I like different albums in different moods and in different phases in my life.

And why should this album be good for you. Maybe it's not going to be good in your opinion, but will it be fantastic in my opinion. Does the opinion of the masses reflect quality? Or does it merely reflect how a few key people love something, and because they do, the rest will follow and love it too? Nowadays Prince seems to be the best ever. But I remember the times when being a Prince fan was not aproved by the masses. It really doesn't matter, does it?

I'm looking forward to this album, because I know I will enjoy listening to some songs. But foremost, this album will be the music that I will associate with a phase in my life that has been rough, however relieved because the Prince concerts I went to, that made me happy. And when sad, I just think of those memories. And of course, a lot of orgers have been great friends to me and very supportive. So, beside the musical quality and the message of the album, to me, it's also about what Prince and his fans stand for.


No matter if that is aproved by the masses or not.

Don't think he expects hits any more. Personally I think he knows he has a large loyal fanbase and knows he'll sell to that and anything on top is a bonus. No evidence of this being a proper release really, hes not made any waves with PretzelBodyLogic and it looks to me that it may well become a fan favourite but not drag anyone new to it. Don't think its a "comeback" type thing at all

dewmass said:

Don't think he expects hits any more. Personally I think he knows he has a large loyal fanbase and knows he'll sell to that and anything on top is a bonus. No evidence of this being a proper release really, hes not made any waves with PretzelBodyLogic and it looks to me that it may well become a fan favourite but not drag anyone new to it. Don't think its a "comeback" type thing at all

I don't think he wants to come back at all.

Come back to where? Come back to who?


That's just silly false status bollocks. He does not need a hit to feel better about himself, now does he? (I hope not).

antonb said:

His legacy and his live reputation will always be there, even if it isnt any good, but i still feel that this could be an important album for him. It will enhance his standing at the moment and prove he can still deliver in the recording studio

He's been unable to prove that to the press and media since the early 90s (being very generous there.)

Plectrum will either be released as 3rd Eye Girl with minimal mention of Prince .. and die a pitiful death like andy allo and all his other bad side projects .. or .. it won't be released at all.

Yes Plectrum needs to be good but it wont be good. Some people will like it for a few months and then painfully conclude that it is a really bad album .. others will know right away that it is horrible music.

The press will give it good reviews just like they gave Let's go Crazy Reloaded 4 stars and put Breakfast Can Wait on some best of list .. even tho both are pretty horrible lazy songs. This is because .. as prince mentioned in Jukebox with a Hearbeat .. prince pays for good press .. it is no longer earned .. and the music industry is so complete garbage right now they will lap up whatever prince throws them.

Prince will refuse to put any of his better songs on the record .. such as the Breakdown or Big City.

If he does have any good ideas on the record he will find a way to ruin them by adding raps or dumb lyrics about pubes in his teeth or how great he still is and how he never went away and blah blah.

Lots of artists have hit rock bottom and turned around with a late career record that does not make their fans want to hurl. This will not be that record .. this will be the rock bottom record.

TrevorAyer said:

Plectrum will either be released as 3rd Eye Girl with minimal mention of Prince .. and die a pitiful death like andy allo and all his other bad side projects .. or .. it won't be released at all.

Yes Plectrum needs to be good but it wont be good. Some people will like it for a few months and then painfully conclude that it is a really bad album .. others will know right away that it is horrible music.

The press will give it good reviews just like they gave Let's go Crazy Reloaded 4 stars and put Breakfast Can Wait on some best of list .. even tho both are pretty horrible lazy songs. This is because .. as prince mentioned in Jukebox with a Hearbeat .. prince pays for good press .. it is no longer earned .. and the music industry is so complete garbage right now they will lap up whatever prince throws them.

Prince will refuse to put any of his better songs on the record .. such as the Breakdown or Big City.

If he does have any good ideas on the record he will find a way to ruin them by adding raps or dumb lyrics about pubes in his teeth or how great he still is and how he never went away and blah blah.

Lots of artists have hit rock bottom and turned around with a late career record that does not make their fans want to hurl. This will not be that record .. this will be the rock bottom record.

I agree with this part -

Yes Plectrum needs to be good but it wont be good. Some people will like it for a few months and then painfully conclude that it is a really bad album .. others will know right away that it is horrible music.

The press will give it good reviews just like they gave Let's go Crazy Reloaded 4 stars and put Breakfast Can Wait on some best of list .. even tho both are pretty horrible lazy songs. This is because .. as prince mentioned in Jukebox with a Hearbeat .. prince pays for good press .. it is no longer earned .. and the music industry is so complete garbage right now they will lap up whatever prince throws them.

Prince will refuse to put any of his better songs on the record .. such as the Breakdown or Big City.

TrevorAyer said: