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Reply #30 posted 02/21/14 2:13pm

MIRvmn

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IstenSzek said:

the gold symbol guitar excited i hope he starts playing that one again


because i've always loved it's tone. plus it just looks amazing on him smile



yes I also hope he stars using that guitar again cool
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Reply #31 posted 02/21/14 2:33pm

Byron

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

I am so SICK of this "real musician" crap!!!! What is a "real musician"? Just because someone can play chords on a guitar doesn't mean their music is anymore real than someone that uses synths or sequencers. You wanna know why Vintage Trouble doesn't have any hits? Because no one is buying their music, plain and simple! It has nothing to do with if they're "real" or not. (And I personally think its because their music is bland, unoriginal and just mediocre at best.) And Jack White doesn't have any hits!!?? Blunderbuss debuted at #1! SMDH


I'm not sure your rant reflects what Prince actually said...he's not simply talking about people who know how to play instruments in his comment.

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Reply #32 posted 02/21/14 2:48pm

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PurpleSpirit319 said:

http://www.mojo4music.com...interview/

lush! love the nostalgia, he looks like 20yrs old or sommink love

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Reply #33 posted 02/21/14 3:14pm

livewire

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Byron said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

I am so SICK of this "real musician" crap!!!! What is a "real musician"? Just because someone can play chords on a guitar doesn't mean their music is anymore real than someone that uses synths or sequencers. You wanna know why Vintage Trouble doesn't have any hits? Because no one is buying their music, plain and simple! It has nothing to do with if they're "real" or not. (And I personally think its because their music is bland, unoriginal and just mediocre at best.) And Jack White doesn't have any hits!!?? Blunderbuss debuted at #1! SMDH


I'm not sure your rant reflects what Prince actually said...he's not simply talking about people who know how to play instruments in his comment.

Of course you're right, Byron, but that won't stop folks from intentionally misunderstanding his point (which he's made quite clear over the years) so they can be offended by it. Typical Org ish.

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Reply #34 posted 02/21/14 3:20pm

TrueFunkSoldie
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nice to see Prince give props to Jack White.

[Edited 2/21/14 15:44pm]

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Reply #35 posted 02/21/14 3:25pm

TrueFunkSoldie
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KlyphIsBackAgain said:

I am so SICK of this "real musician" crap!!!! What is a "real musician"? Just because someone can play chords on a guitar doesn't mean their music is anymore real than someone that uses synths or sequencers. You wanna know why Vintage Trouble doesn't have any hits? Because no one is buying their music, plain and simple! It has nothing to do with if they're "real" or not. (And I personally think its because their music is bland, unoriginal and just mediocre at best.) And Jack White doesn't have any hits!!?? Blunderbuss debuted at #1! SMDH

he's probably referring to hit singles..

[Edited 2/21/14 15:25pm]

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Reply #36 posted 02/21/14 4:22pm

LEWISTAYLORFAN

He said VINTAGE TROUBLE are real musicians and why are they not famous.

I raved about them years ago on here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsw4ipHcMvY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

It gets so salty baby (bittersweet by Lewis Taylor)
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Reply #37 posted 02/21/14 5:29pm

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Prince first three albums were mostly done with the basic instruments (with him playing them all) it was with Controversy that some of the songs became overtly synthesized......starting with Around the World in a Day he mostly moved away from the Minneapolis sound and with a few exceptions (Batman, NPS) was primarily those basic instruments.............So the statement from him about real musicians is about most of the music out now which can not compare to the musical complexity and intricate compositions of the 60-80s

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Reply #38 posted 02/21/14 5:30pm

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It's a good article.
Article discusses him now and through different parts of his career etc, whilst discussing new album which they were played in entirety, but I don't think they reference every track. Briefly:-

.
WOW - Led Zepesque instrumental described as heaviest thing he's ever done.

.
WHITECAPS - elegant ballad with a transcendental quality

.
Then describes 'rest of album rattles by stopping off at sweet, girl-group style pop, pure bass driven funk, heart felt balladry and plenty of soulful, Hendrix-like guitar squealing. It's considered and cohesive, with a joyful spirit running through every song..feels gloriously live because that's exactly how 3RDEYEGIRL came together.

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FIXURLIFEUP - anthem of empowerment with Sign 'O' The Times like lyrical undertow of apocalyptic morality.

.
TICTACTOE - gentle ballad with hazy layers of over lapping sounds Prince says is inspired by the Cocteau Twins.

.
FUNKNROLL - energised free-flowing groove that captures the spirit of Prince in 2014 - virtuosic but spontaneous, fun but deadly serious

This Post is produced, arranged, composed and performed by WetDream
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Reply #39 posted 02/21/14 7:13pm

skywalker

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lezama said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

I am so SICK of this "real musician" crap!!!! What is a "real musician"? Just because someone can play chords on a guitar doesn't mean their music is anymore real than someone that uses synths or sequencers.

Is he referring to technology or is he referring to people who have a truly creative spirit and can make good music with or without the use of technology? Those who can create beyond the formulaic and generic? E.g. I don't think he'd consider Trent Reznor not a real musician, although Reznor might make an entire album via computer, because he knows Trent is extremely creative as a song writer. I think his wording with "real musician" is vague, but I doubt he's simply talking about technology.

I think he is referring to someone who can really do it live and onstage. Really play, improvise, switch up grooves, and not rely too heavily on machines/samples/triggers for their live shows.

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Trent Reznor is a studio wizard and makes great albums. Can he do it for real and play live onstage? What happens if he goes "unplugged"?


[Edited 2/21/14 19:15pm]

"New Power slide...."
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Reply #40 posted 02/21/14 9:37pm

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PurpleSpirit319 said:



Not sure I like the pic though, a bit too much Vaseline on the lens
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Reply #41 posted 02/22/14 12:18am

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Nice pic. Looks like he's going to a Hendrix impersonator gig though lol

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Reply #42 posted 02/22/14 12:50am

Nikkie

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That Picture is so 1984/5! Best thing about it is indeed the comeback of the gold symbol guitar. smile
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Reply #43 posted 02/22/14 5:34am

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livewire said:

Byron said:


I'm not sure your rant reflects what Prince actually said...he's not simply talking about people who know how to play instruments in his comment.

Of course you're right, Byron, but that won't stop folks from intentionally misunderstanding his point (which he's made quite clear over the years) so they can be offended by it. Typical Org ish.

He's not? Hmmmm..... Is that why the people/bands that he mentioned in that statement are all people with so-called "organic" sounds? He PURPOSELY mentioned Jack White, a guy whose all-girl band was probably Prince's most recent inspiration to do the same, a blues-rock band AND the obligatory young/cute/could-be-probably-is-biracial/hispanic/light-bright girl that plays traditonal instruments. I'm not misunderstanding anything.

[Edited 2/22/14 5:35am]

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Reply #44 posted 02/22/14 5:35am

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verrry nice pic.. cool


[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/Prince/Mojopic-22014_zpsae6e4446.jpg[/img:$uid]

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Reply #45 posted 02/22/14 5:36am

KlyphIsBackAga
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skywalker said:

lezama said:

Is he referring to technology or is he referring to people who have a truly creative spirit and can make good music with or without the use of technology? Those who can create beyond the formulaic and generic? E.g. I don't think he'd consider Trent Reznor not a real musician, although Reznor might make an entire album via computer, because he knows Trent is extremely creative as a song writer. I think his wording with "real musician" is vague, but I doubt he's simply talking about technology.

I think he is referring to someone who can really do it live and onstage. Really play, improvise, switch up grooves, and not rely too heavily on machines/samples/triggers for their live shows.

-

Trent Reznor is a studio wizard and makes great albums. Can he do it for real and play live onstage? What happens if he goes "unplugged"?


[Edited 2/21/14 19:15pm]

Apparently you've never seen NIN (or How To Destroy Angels) play live then.

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Reply #46 posted 02/22/14 5:51am

cbarnes3121

bashraka said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

I am so SICK of this "real musician" crap!!!! What is a "real musician"? Just because someone can play chords on a guitar doesn't mean their music is anymore real than someone that uses synths or sequencers. You wanna know why Vintage Trouble doesn't have any hits? Because no one is buying their music, plain and simple! It has nothing to do with if they're "real" or not. (And I personally think its because their music is bland, unoriginal and just mediocre at best.) And Jack White doesn't have any hits!!?? Blunderbuss debuted at #1! SMDH

I agree. A jazz musician playing acoustic music can easily say that Prince's use of drum machines, synthesizers, and sequencers isn't "real music" because it devalued musicians worth to record companies by economizing the recording process. Instead of a human beng creating music by live percussion, keyboards, bass and horns, patches on a synthesized instrument could similiate those sounds to create hit records.

Secondly, he does a sampler dj set, where he sings over pre-recorded music of his own hits during his concerts now. In 2002, Prince would have deplored such a notion. It would benefit Prince if he did a seminar and explained "real music by real musicians" in detail because he obviously has a lot to say on radio, artists and the industry.

dig if u will the mind of a musican prince showcases all the aspects of a musican and digital instrumentations happens 2 be apart of the part.prince shows u can he can do it all acoustic and electronic.there is nothing wrong with using keyboards and drum machines but know how 2 do the real thing 2 show the true artistry . shit canybody can get a laptop and create a song now respect when prince trying 2 encourage kids 2 do the real thing

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Reply #47 posted 02/22/14 6:03am

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cbarnes3121 said:

bashraka said:

I agree. A jazz musician playing acoustic music can easily say that Prince's use of drum machines, synthesizers, and sequencers isn't "real music" because it devalued musicians worth to record companies by economizing the recording process. Instead of a human beng creating music by live percussion, keyboards, bass and horns, patches on a synthesized instrument could similiate those sounds to create hit records.

Secondly, he does a sampler dj set, where he sings over pre-recorded music of his own hits during his concerts now. In 2002, Prince would have deplored such a notion. It would benefit Prince if he did a seminar and explained "real music by real musicians" in detail because he obviously has a lot to say on radio, artists and the industry.

dig if u will the mind of a musican prince showcases all the aspects of a musican and digital instrumentations happens 2 be apart of the part.prince shows u can he can do it all acoustic and electronic.there is nothing wrong with using keyboards and drum machines but know how 2 do the real thing 2 show the true artistry . shit canybody can get a laptop and create a song now respect when prince trying 2 encourage kids 2 do the real thing

WTF?! ANYBODY can pick up a guitar, learn a few chords and create a song too. That doesn't mean it's any good. And if you really think that the craft of creating a "digital" song is any different than the craft of creating an "analog" song then you have been drinking the Kool-Aid and it has permanently stained your tongue!

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Reply #48 posted 02/22/14 9:32am

2elijah

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http://www.mojo4music.com...interview/

The Jimi Hendrix of 2014

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Reply #49 posted 02/22/14 10:14am

cbarnes3121

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

cbarnes3121 said:

dig if u will the mind of a musican prince showcases all the aspects of a musican and digital instrumentations happens 2 be apart of the part.prince shows u can he can do it all acoustic and electronic.there is nothing wrong with using keyboards and drum machines but know how 2 do the real thing 2 show the true artistry . shit canybody can get a laptop and create a song now respect when prince trying 2 encourage kids 2 do the real thing

WTF?! ANYBODY can pick up a guitar, learn a few chords and create a song too. That doesn't mean it's any good. And if you really think that the craft of creating a "digital" song is any different than the craft of creating an "analog" song then you have been drinking the Kool-Aid and it has permanently stained your tongue!

ok with that being stop talking shit and put your album put and match all of princes achievments or even so top everything he has done cuz anybody can pick up a guiatr and learn a few chords stop talkin shit and make it happen. it slays me how talkers talk shit and real artist make it happen. have yall ever stop 2 notice how people talk shit about prince but he making money and history and u just throwing words in the eye of the world u nothing compared 2 prince

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Reply #50 posted 02/22/14 3:49pm

funkomatic

"People don’t understand real musicians anymore."

No, no, Prince, it's you who doesn't understand the people!

[Edited 2/22/14 21:32pm]

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Reply #51 posted 02/22/14 10:06pm

GeorginaLestra
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PurpleSpirit319 said:

http://www.mojo4music.com...interview/

Mr.Guitar Man. love

[Edited 2/22/14 22:07pm]

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Reply #52 posted 02/23/14 11:35am

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WetDream said:

It's a good article.
Article discusses him now and through different parts of his career etc, whilst discussing new album which they were played in entirety, but I don't think they reference every track. Briefly:-

.
WOW - Led Zepesque instrumental described as heaviest thing he's ever done.

.
WHITECAPS - elegant ballad with a transcendental quality

.
Then describes 'rest of album rattles by stopping off at sweet, girl-group style pop, pure bass driven funk, heart felt balladry and plenty of soulful, Hendrix-like guitar squealing. It's considered and cohesive, with a joyful spirit running through every song..feels gloriously live because that's exactly how 3RDEYEGIRL came together.

.
FIXURLIFEUP - anthem of empowerment with Sign 'O' The Times like lyrical undertow of apocalyptic morality.

.
TICTACTOE - gentle ballad with hazy layers of over lapping sounds Prince says is inspired by the Cocteau Twins.

.
FUNKNROLL - energised free-flowing groove that captures the spirit of Prince in 2014 - virtuosic but spontaneous, fun but deadly serious

.

Nice! Bring it on, Bring it on, Bring it on!

"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #53 posted 02/23/14 1:59pm

Amethyst5

I love that cover photo. The ever enigmatic Prince. thumbs up! love biggrin

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Reply #54 posted 02/24/14 6:08am

luvsexy4all

THE SYMBOL GUITAR!! finally...

[Edited 2/24/14 6:09am]

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Reply #55 posted 02/24/14 7:38am

strawberrybubb
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bashraka said:



KlyphIsBackAgain said:


I am so SICK of this "real musician" crap!!!! What is a "real musician"? Just because someone can play chords on a guitar doesn't mean their music is anymore real than someone that uses synths or sequencers. You wanna know why Vintage Trouble doesn't have any hits? Because no one is buying their music, plain and simple! It has nothing to do with if they're "real" or not. (And I personally think its because their music is bland, unoriginal and just mediocre at best.) And Jack White doesn't have any hits!!?? Blunderbuss debuted at #1! SMDH




I agree. A jazz musician playing acoustic music can easily say that Prince's use of drum machines, synthesizers, and sequencers isn't "real music" because it devalued musicians worth to record companies by economizing the recording process. Instead of a human beng creating music by live percussion, keyboards, bass and horns, patches on a synthesized instrument could similiate those sounds to create hit records.



Secondly, he does a sampler dj set, where he sings over pre-recorded music of his own hits during his concerts now. In 2002, Prince would have deplored such a notion. It would benefit Prince if he did a seminar and explained "real music by real musicians" in detail because he obviously has a lot to say on radio, artists and the industry.


I agree.. I actually roll my eyes when i hear him say this now.. Been a few years but what does he mean really? People starts screaming and yelling when he says this but I'm just confused.
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Reply #56 posted 02/24/14 7:48am

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wally19 said:

Prince first three albums were mostly done with the basic instruments (with him playing them all) it was with Controversy that some of the songs became overtly synthesized......starting with Around the World in a Day he mostly moved away from the Minneapolis sound and with a few exceptions (Batman, NPS) was primarily those basic instruments.............So the statement from him about real musicians is about most of the music out now which can not compare to the musical complexity and intricate compositions of the 60-80s

I agree with U though

Credits:

Prince was credited for all vocals, songwriting, every instrument played on the album, as well as the whole arrangements and production. The only credit given to someone other than Prince is a co-writing credit to Chris Moon for the lyrics of Soft And Wet. Moon and Prince disagreed over credits due on My Love Is Forever, which was financially settled after the album release.

Personnel
Musicians
Production
  • Prince - producer, arranger, engineer, dust cover design
  • Tommy Vicari - executive producer, engineer, remixer
  • David Rivkin - vocal recording engineer (uncredited)
  • Patrice Rushen - synth programming (uncredited)
  • Charles Veal - string arrangement on Baby (uncredited)
Thanks
  • "Special thanks to God, Owen, Britt, Bernadette, My Father and Mother, Russ Thyret, Gary, David Rivkin / Sound 80 Studios, C. Moon, Eddie, Sharon and Eleanor, L. Phillips, Bobby "Z" Rivkin, Tom Coster, Graham Lear, Joe Giannetti, Patrice Rushen, Charles Veal, Jr., Shirley Walker, Knut Koupee Music, Chuck Orr, Lisa H., and You!"

PRINCE

As with his first album, Prince played all instruments on all tracks. Bobby Z. and André Cymone were listed in the credits as "heaven-sent helpers" leading to some questioning of their involvement, and Prince has confirmed that André Cymone adds some vocal harmony to Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad?

DIRTY MIND

While the album is essentially performed entirely by Prince, Dr. Fink plays synthesizer on Dirty Mind and Head, and Lisa Coleman contributes vocals on Head. Additionally, three tracks contained writing contributions by others, although only one is credited. Dr. Fink is credited as a co-writer for Dirty Mind, as he contributed the main keyboard part for the track. Uptown was based around a bass line created by André Cymone, although he is uncredited.

-PrinceVault

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Reply #57 posted 02/25/14 6:58am

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Giovanni777 said:

WetDream said:

It's a good article.
Article discusses him now and through different parts of his career etc, whilst discussing new album which they were played in entirety, but I don't think they reference every track. Briefly:-

.
WOW - Led Zepesque instrumental described as heaviest thing he's ever done.

.
WHITECAPS - elegant ballad with a transcendental quality

.
Then describes 'rest of album rattles by stopping off at sweet, girl-group style pop, pure bass driven funk, heart felt balladry and plenty of soulful, Hendrix-like guitar squealing. It's considered and cohesive, with a joyful spirit running through every song..feels gloriously live because that's exactly how 3RDEYEGIRL came together.

.
FIXURLIFEUP - anthem of empowerment with Sign 'O' The Times like lyrical undertow of apocalyptic morality.

.
TICTACTOE - gentle ballad with hazy layers of over lapping sounds Prince says is inspired by the Cocteau Twins.

.
FUNKNROLL - energised free-flowing groove that captures the spirit of Prince in 2014 - virtuosic but spontaneous, fun but deadly serious

.

Nice! Bring it on, Bring it on, Bring it on!

Sounding interesting for sure...

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Reply #58 posted 02/25/14 2:15pm

dopedog

I wish magazines would use something other than that stupid spunky glue stuff for sticking cd's to the cover though! Ripped half the fucking picture trying to get the bastard off!!!
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Reply #59 posted 02/25/14 4:24pm

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I like the use of the PR look with the Symbol guitar. Like he's blending decades. By the way, didn't he have a sampler set in the one night alone shows? I remember him doing one at the Kodak in L.A. when I saw him in 2001.

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