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Thread started 02/04/14 5:13am

TryWhistlingTh
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Chaos and Disorder - where is it at?

I've just ordered what seems to be (literally) the last copy of Chaos and Disorder off Amazon. The only copies left are those offered by the second hand sellers. I've listened to the samples and read a bit about it. I'm eagerly awaiting the disc and cannot wait to listen to it.

As a fairly new fan (really got into him in 2012, saw him live in 2013) i've steadily been going through the discography from all eras. Where does this one sit? From the parts i've heard, it sounds great but it's not the album that is talked much about. Is it because it lacks hits or as a whole just wasn't that great? I'm really looking forward to it.

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Reply #1 posted 02/04/14 5:37am

thedance

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the first half is fantastic,

Rock tracks (The title track, I Like It There and The Same December)..

and also, the sweet ballad which was released as a single & very cool musicvideo, "Dinner With Delores".

There's a good musicvideo to "The Same December" but it wasn't officially released afaik..... available on boot dvd's I guess (I had this on VHS tape)..

The musivideo for the guitar driven "I Like It There" was released on Prince's site only a few years back iirc - very long time after the album release. It was a response to the Rolling Stone list "100 Greatest Guitarists" (something like that), because RS ignorred Prince as a guitar player - later the list from RS was updated with Prince on it, again: IIRC.

Zannalee is a great rock track performed several times on tv.

But, expect some weak songs in the last half of the album, the closer "Had U" is great tho, but also a very short track.

"Empty Room" which is from the era mid-90s.. this great song is not on the album which is a shame.



That was about all I know about this album... Good luck with this album.. wink

Prince 4Ever. heart
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Reply #2 posted 02/04/14 5:41am

TryWhistlingTh
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Thanks smile It's been quite a journey so far. I've got many albums of his from a mix of eras and plan on covering the discography, I love his work. The live show was amazing that I saw, he's definitely one of the greats.

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Reply #3 posted 02/04/14 5:42am

Javi

It's in the dustbin.

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No, seriously, I don't like it a lot. It's mainly a rock album, which isn't my favourite Prince style, and there are only a couple of great tracks there. It's forgettable for the most part, in my opinion.

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Reply #4 posted 02/04/14 5:43am

Javi

Anyway, Prince's music is very diverse and you can perfectly like it. Chaos And Disorder has its fans. I hope you enjoy it more than I do. wink

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Reply #5 posted 02/04/14 5:45am

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The cd cover art is terrible,

-- the front showing a pic of the famous vinyl label: the Warner Bros. album "1999" - the one with "a Prince eye" on it.. being smashed by a boot,

symbolic to what he might feel for Warner back then..?



Here's a pic of the "1999" vinyl including the original "Prince eye labels", this was re-released on heavy weight 180 grams 2LP vinyl, (about 2 years ago).:


[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/ecnirp2004/Prince/Billede0384_zps7b867941.jpg[/img:$uid]

^ this 2-LP vinyl "1999" was "smashed" on the cover to Chaos & Disorder, there's a pic with a heart in a toilet also, it's maybe the ugliest cover art to a Prince album, still it was symbolic to the Prince - Warner relation, I guess...

confused

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Reply #6 posted 02/04/14 5:49am

thisisreece

Mixed-bag. Some great songs - the rockier ones - and then there's some bad ones.

Hundalasiliah!
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Reply #7 posted 02/04/14 6:04am

TrevorAyer

as a new fan you will like a lot of his post name change work .. chaos and disorder is quite pleasant if you ignore a few lyrics and a few other things as well .. later once you have really listened to a lot of prince an album like this will become almost unlistenable .. the lyrics will begin to grate on you and the music will feel empty and uninspired or there will just be some annoying things about it that will feel like pencils stabbing your ears ..

had u is the best thing on this record

dig u better has a good chorus

everything else becomes cartoonish and uninspired feeling after several listens

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Reply #8 posted 02/04/14 6:26am

Milty

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One of my favourite Prince albums

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Reply #9 posted 02/04/14 6:29am

novabrkr

Chaos and Disorder is a bit like a "bonus disc" for the The Gold Experience album. It was never intended as a "major release", but he just put together some songs from that time that he still apparently wanted to be released before moving on. It was an album that was given to his record label (WB) due to a contractual obligation, but I wouldn't say it's as much of a throw-away as some people suggest. He completely changed his sound for the Emancipation 3CD set.

So if somebody likes The Gold Experience then Chaos and Disorder is a nice enough collection of songs that have the same type of production style (it is somewhat noisier though).

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Reply #10 posted 02/04/14 6:35am

luvsexy4all

must be strange to start at this stage and have to go backwards....

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Reply #11 posted 02/04/14 6:41am

OldFriends4Sal
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thedance said:

the first half is fantastic,

Rock tracks (The title track, I Like It There and The Same December)..

and also, the sweet ballad which was released as a single & very cool musicvideo, "Dinner With Delores".

There's a good musicvideo to "The Same December" but it wasn't officially released afaik..... available on boot dvd's I guess (I had this on VHS tape)..

The musivideo for the guitar driven "I Like It There" was released on Prince's site only a few years back iirc - very long time after the album release. It was a response to the Rolling Stone list "100 Greatest Guitarists" (something like that), because RS ignorred Prince as a guitar player - later the list from RS was updated with Prince on it, again: IIRC.

Zannalee is a great rock track performed several times on tv.

But, expect some weak songs in the last half of the album, the closer "Had U" is great tho, but also a very short track.

"Empty Room" which is from the era mid-90s.. this great song is not on the album which is a shame.



That was about all I know about this album... Good luck with this album.. wink

Empty Room

Two studio versions of the track exist. Initial tracking took place on 4 August, 1985 at the Washington Avenue Warehouse, Eden Prairie, MN, USA (three days after Splash, six days before Sexual Suicide). It was recorded with the Revolution, following an argument with Susannah Melvoin.

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Reply #12 posted 02/04/14 10:39pm

TryWhistlingTh
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novabrkr said:


So if somebody likes The Gold Experience then Chaos and Disorder is a nice enough collection of songs that have the same type of production style (it is somewhat noisier though).

Gold happens to be my second favourite Prince album (so far). Sign Of The Times being number one.

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Reply #13 posted 02/05/14 3:16am

MattyJam

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Into The Light and I Will are two of his best songs of the 90s IMO.

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Reply #14 posted 02/05/14 3:19am

novabrkr

TryWhistlingThis said:

novabrkr said:


So if somebody likes The Gold Experience then Chaos and Disorder is a nice enough collection of songs that have the same type of production style (it is somewhat noisier though).

Gold happens to be my second favourite Prince album (so far). Sign Of The Times being number one.

I should emphasize that most don't consider the songs themselves to be on the same level as on TGE. It's just that the overall sound, the lyrical themes and the attitude are similar to TGE. When Emancipation came out a few months later. it was something else altogether.

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Reply #15 posted 02/05/14 3:28am

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"The lyrics gracelessly confuse the personal with the political." That's a quote from the Rolling Stone review and there is some truth in it. Prince/TAFKAP was so obsessed with his record company troubles that he could hardly think of anything else and this really is a throwaway record. Why do your best if it's only for WB anyway? But, as always, there's a few good tracks that keep one from really throwing it in the dustbin. I Like it There and Zannalee are as good as any bluesrock ever recorded. Into the Light-I Will is really beautiful. I Rock Therefore I Am would have been an excellent piece of nasty funkrock if it hadn't been spoiled by that stipid raggamuffin rapper. The rest? Forgettable.
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Reply #16 posted 02/05/14 4:05am

TryWhistlingTh
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novabrkr said:

TryWhistlingThis said:

Gold happens to be my second favourite Prince album (so far). Sign Of The Times being number one.

I should emphasize that most don't consider the songs themselves to be on the same level as on TGE. It's just that the overall sound, the lyrical themes and the attitude are similar to TGE. When Emancipation came out a few months later. it was something else altogether.

I actually considered buying Emancipation but I might have to wait until this Christmas. Seriously, it's a triple album. Where am I going to find the time to appreciate it all?

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Reply #17 posted 02/05/14 4:27am

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TryWhistlingThis said:

novabrkr said:

I should emphasize that most don't consider the songs themselves to be on the same level as on TGE. It's just that the overall sound, the lyrical themes and the attitude are similar to TGE. When Emancipation came out a few months later. it was something else altogether.

I actually considered buying Emancipation but I might have to wait until this Christmas. Seriously, it's a triple album. Where am I going to find the time to appreciate it all?

You'll have more fun with C&D - Emancipation is just bloated, overproduced, blah.

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