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1/7/14 A big reason that I liked the guy is that we got one album a year. It is 2014 and we have not had an album since 20Ten and 20Ten was not a serious effort or he would have released it worldwide. LotusFlower was the last serious release in 2009. The dude has become Maxwell or Sade. I thought that the emancipation from Warners meant more albums, not less. | |
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donnyenglish said: A big reason that I liked the guy is that we got one album a year. It is 2014 and we have not had an album since 20Ten and 20Ten was not a serious effort or he would have released it worldwide. LotusFlower was the last serious release in 2009. The dude has become Maxwell or Sade. I thought that the emancipation from Warners meant more albums, not less. You're forgetting that Lotusflow3r was available in 1 shop in the us only. So the last real worldwide release was 3121 8 years ago. Damn that is along time. [Edited 1/7/14 10:12am] She Believed in Fairytales and Princes, He Believed the voices coming from his stereo
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Pretty sure there's way more post-Warners albums. Plus he's released an album's worth of songs last year, put that on shuffle, do a little dance. | |
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To be honest prince is not relevant anymore except to us, the hardcore. Go into any major record store and they may have at most 4 or 5 albums Years ago he would have numerous albums under various genres (R&B, Rock etc). Even his live sets are starting to go stale. He did the medley during his 21 nights at the O2 - 6 years ago!!! | |
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sorry? i don't get what you mean. since 3121 in 2006 we have had
2007 Planet Earth - given away in a newspaper for 1 day 2008 Indigo Nights - live stuff with a coffee table book door stop 2009 Lotusflow3r - sold in target in us only and download to those silly enough to subscribe to that site 2010 20ten - given away in a paper for 1 day again 2011 nothin 2012 nothin 2013 - 3rd eyetunes stuff
no real release for 8 years, i mean walk into a shop normal release.
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Let's compare physical releases of studio albums since 2014 will make 18 years of emancipation vs. 18 years with WB. We can debate about the quality of music. I like his new stuff just as much as the old stuff, but others may feel differently.
I'm more disappointed with the quantity of physical releases. I don't think that the Vault is as abundent as advertised. If the music was there, then it would be released.
Post WB Years:
1996: Emancipation 1997: 1998: Crystal Ball 1998: NewPowerSoul 1998: The Truth 1999: Rave 2000: 2001: Rainbow Children 2002: One Nite Alone 2003: News 2004: Musicology 2005: 2006: 3121 2007: Planet Earth 2008: -- 2009: Lotus Flower/MPLS Sound 2010: 20Ten 2011: 2012: 2013: 2014: Plectrum Electrum???
18 years with WB
1978: For You 1979: Prince 1980: Dirty Mind 1981: Controversy 1982: 1999 1984: Purple Rain 1985: Around the World in a Day 1986: Parade 1987: Sign O The Times 1988: Lovesexy 1989: Batman 1990: Graffiti Bridge 1991: Diamonds and Pearls 1992: Love Symbol 1993: 1994: Come 1994: The Black Album 1995: The Gold Experience 1995: Exodus 1996: Chaos and Disorder
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I don't understand the title of this thread.
On the 3rd eye twitter they have this date on there as if there would be some sort of announcement, but this thread doesn't seem to correlate with that | |
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LotusFlower stayed on the BillBoard chart for over a year. Meaning he has no album chart action since 2010. 4 years does not make Prince Maxwell or Sade. Inaddtion, he has made plenty of public and concert apperences in that time. At this point I see no reason for him to put out a commercial release withoout a major company behind him. I believe that is what he is about to do in a few months.
Even if he puts out no music after this year so what dude has had a hell of a long ride and if he wants to coast or retire so be it. | |
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He's been taking career advice from Kate Bush. . | |
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We were all hoping for something BIG on this date like an album and we got more breadcrumbing with some tweets about lyrics. | |
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Liv Warfield video http://www.essence.com/20...do-you-lie
woopidee fuckin doo She Believed in Fairytales and Princes, He Believed the voices coming from his stereo
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oh i wouldn't dismiss it that quickly, there is loads of gold in there for sure, but for every Moonbeam Levels there's a Poom Poom She Believed in Fairytales and Princes, He Believed the voices coming from his stereo
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I think you missed a couple out. There maybe more WB titles but count how many CD discs of new material and it evens out Thats 22 discs of WB material 24 of post WB material
Personally I think the vault is stacked but there might be some issue regarding ownership of stuff recorded during the time he was under WB contract... Although who knows
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Okay, so he hasn't had an official release, however, the dude is releasing singles left and right...Prince is so prolific that although he hasn't released an album, his output is just in zane... He has released or leaked singles via 3EG, so Prince is still Prince...I love all of the music that got out there in 2013. "A united state of mind will never be divided
The real definition of unity is 1 People can slam their door, disagree and fight it But how U gonna love the Father but not love the Son? United States of Division" | |
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I hope he gets a producer. He never needed one before, but the time is long overdue. He needs someone to shake up his comfort zone. He is leaving carpet marks from traveling the same path over and over lately. | |
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You know, I have been thinking the same thing, however, Prince can't work with anyone else when it comes to his music. The Revolution was really the last group that he tried a collaboration with. He did try a mini collaboration with early NPG, but it will always be Prince. Another factor, there really isn't anyone out there that could Produce Prince. Questlove is a Prince fan, but he couldn't do it. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis would be contenders, but could they come up with something so new that they could all benefit..I am not sure... "A united state of mind will never be divided
The real definition of unity is 1 People can slam their door, disagree and fight it But how U gonna love the Father but not love the Son? United States of Division" | |
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Janelle Monae maybe? Hundalasiliah! | |
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Janelle is too young and not tested as a producer. No disrespect regarding her youth, however, Prince would need someone who totally gets him and would be an asset and could bring something new to the game. Not to young and not to old. I mean, you wouldn't want someone who would try to turn him into a rapper but you wouldn't want someone who would turn him into a torch singer. Prince is still cutting edge and a producer would still need to show that Prince is fully still in the game..I mean, Prince is so superbad, he is still generating good music...just my two cents... "A united state of mind will never be divided
The real definition of unity is 1 People can slam their door, disagree and fight it But how U gonna love the Father but not love the Son? United States of Division" | |
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my ultimate fantasy producer for prince is nigel godrich. but it will never happen, i know.
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You're probably right. But, considering how energetic and on point his vocals on 'Give Em What They Love' are, I'm guessing she wouldn't do a bad job. Hundalasiliah! | |
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If you're gonna include Exodus, Gold Nigga and Newpower Soul you can add The War as well, and Vanity 6, The Family, Jill Jones, Madhouse, Carmen Electra, etc. I really don't understand why the NPG albums are always included in Prince discographies. Either you include only Prince/Prince And The Revolution/Prince And The NPG/ albums or you include all the side-projects, but it's an absurdity to include the 3 (or 4) NPG albums and not the Madhouse albums for example.
Video albums, live albums and digital releases outghta be included as well, the distinction between digital and physical release is so 20th century Digital has been the dominant format for 2 years now anyway, so if we were to be selective it would make more sense to exclude albums that have only been released physically than albums that have only been released digitally
See this list for a complete list of releases that can qualify for being considered Prince albums: https://sites.google.com/...iscography
Anyway I've done this little calculation before, including side-projects and video albums: Prince DID release less album material overall since he's left WB, there's no question about it
Now if we were to compare the whole bulk of the material made available including songs given to others, singles, downloads, broadcasts and streaming I'm not so sute the WB years would win because we've had a lot of live stuff, snippets and stuff like that these last 10 years. But that's not what we want: we want full length albums! [Edited 1/7/14 22:27pm] A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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There was also an official release in france, not an import. | |
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There was also an official release in france, not an import. Yeah but it was 1 disc and collected from both albums to make 1 album. Still not a proper release. She Believed in Fairytales and Princes, He Believed the voices coming from his stereo
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No. Not right.
http://princevault.com/index.php/Album:_Lotusflow3r | |
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Things have slowed down, but there's still been alot of material coming out.
I'd actually prefer total silence for a year if I thought that would give him fresh inspiration.
Remember that Little Richard quote: "A little bit of something beats a whole lot of nothing".
We've had alot of mileage out of his handful of mid-eighties albums, purely down to their quality, so I'd be happy to wait if it meant a nugget of gold being delivered. "I'm much too hot to be cool" | |
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No albums. That is something different than 'material coming out'. Physical stuff is getting increasingly more important these days.
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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well 7th january 2014 came and went and ... nothing what a surprise ! [Edited 1/8/14 2:33am] Hard to believe I've been on the org for over 25 years now! | |
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:YEAHTHAT: Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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and Jan 8 2014 is gearing up to be just as exciting. "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" | |
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