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Reply #30 posted 12/13/13 5:01am

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The All Seing Eye is also important to Freemasonry as it's representative of the Grand Architect of the Universe (the G you see in the center of the Masonic square and compass). There is also Ergon, the Alchemical right eye of the soul which is always turned towards eternity and in opposition to Parergon, the left eye, always directed toward time.

Also, the lotus flower was a symbol of the Sun to the Egyptians. Aten, Oten or Aton, mentioned in Prince's work in The Rainbow Children and possibly the title 20TEN was the Sun Disc to the Egyptians and was the basis for the world's first monotheistic religion, Atenism, founded by Amenhotep IV who later took the name Akhenaten in worship.

There's also the fact that his name for a while was a combination of the astrological symbols of Mars and Venus with the Alchemical symbol for soapstone which corresponds to fidelity in marriage and loyalty. Loyalty to Sex or Fidelity In The Union Between A Man and Woman was his name.

There's also Gold. Gold was sacred to the Egyptians for its immutable qualities and its relation to the Sun and eternal life. The ultimate spiritual goal of the Alchemist ws to produce gold from lead, or produce a moral and humanitarian man from a base and selfish one. This is also the goal of Freemasonry, which takes much of its symbolism from Medieval Alchemist and Gnostic practices. They term it as turning the rough ashlar (or stone) to the perfect ashlar, but it's the same principle.

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Good stuff for the uneducated. Fiction and crazy talk for some but very real. Athiest say the Bible is fiction.

The Illuminatti take themselves and their beliefs to be very real. To me that makes it real enough. The last 2 Superbowl halftime shows were loaded with Illuminatti symbolism.

I wouldn't say Prince is into their beliefs or a so-called follower but he obviously has studied them and know quite a bit.

I saw one utube video right after the BB Music Awards claiming Prince was Illuminatti. Mark Dice was doing the video. Not sure if this is the video referred to in the OP or another one. Dice was reaching in his video and only really had Prince's eye ring to go off of. I may have somewhat agreed but Prince's theme at the moment is this 3rdEye pineal gland stuff. Kind of a contradiction if you ask me.

BTW: Will the paragraph breaks ever be fixed here?

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Reply #31 posted 12/13/13 7:50am

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This fascination some folks have with the "Illuminati" because of a fictional book is a bit childish, if you ask me.


Prince is a musician.

Prince is a human being--and thus is able to have multiple interests, including bizarre or foolish ones. If anyone else can be interested in a subject, he can be--and he has explored at least some esoteric or fringe beliefs in songs and interviews. Good lord, he was telling people to read that Betty Eadie "Embraced by the Light" book back during the Exodus years, has talked about chemtrails and other conspiracy theories, has sung about microchips in our necks and underground cities for the elites. If someone wants to look for references to Illuminati themes (and finds them), I don't see any reason to be surprised or shocked or disapproving. Now, as to whether he's a member--of course not. The Illuminati don't exist. Everybody knows that. biggrin

But that doesn't mean he doesn't believe they do--or that he doesn't want to pretend they do--and if that's in the work (or in the persona he portrays in interviews and other public appearances, which is part of his work, just as it is for any other performer), then it's valid discussion fodder. Esoteric beliefs and conspiracy theory are part of what he is doing as an artist. If you're not interested in that part, fine. We all choose the parts to pay attention to. But it's clearly there. We don't know exactly what he's read or been exposed to, but he has some familiarity with some stuff, and he uses it. It's likely people might over-reach or miss the mark on exactly what he's doing, but that doesn't kill the fun--and none of us are making our careers analyzing him, so we're not going to have to defend this in an academic setting, so

Have fun!

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Reply #32 posted 12/13/13 8:17am

RodeoSchro

As the Org's only card-carrying member of the Illuminati, I can neither confirm or deny that Prince is a member.

But I will tell you this - about once a month, we paint the walls of our Illuminati Get-Down Funky Music Room purple. And we truck in a lot of pancake batter.

Just sayin'. prince zipped

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Reply #33 posted 12/13/13 8:51am

SteveWask

i wouldn't say prince is in the illuminati. it just seams like hes going in to some kind of new age shit. not that its my business. i would like to see more of a new age side from him. rather him going on preaching the word of jehovah! but he still seams to be very involved with jehovah still.

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Reply #34 posted 12/13/13 9:21am

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Everything after 1988 makes total sense now exclaim

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Reply #35 posted 12/13/13 9:27am

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Reply #36 posted 12/13/13 9:32am

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Don't be silly. There is no such thing as the Illuminati.

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Reply #37 posted 12/13/13 9:35am

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"I don't believe Prince is an illuminati"... eek

Y'all freak me out, you talk about that shit as if it was real eek eek

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Reply #38 posted 12/13/13 10:41am

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databank said:

"I don't believe Prince is an illuminati"... eek

Y'all freak me out, you talk about that shit as if it was real eek eek

"I don't believe Prince is an illuminati"

I also don't believe he is an illuminati.

I don't believe he's a transdimensional Elder One either. Or Bob.

I do suspect he might be the Spaghetti Monster--and you can't prove otherwise.

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Reply #39 posted 12/13/13 11:20am

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