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PrintableI cant believe this! I absolutley love the first disc! God, I have been stuck on it since I bought it 4 weeks ago. I guess to each his/her own but I really dont think it is as horrible as you are sayin that it is! Thats just my opinion though! He calls me "Holi" cuz he says everyday w/ me is like a Holiday... | |
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luv4thepurple1 said: I cant believe this! I absolutley love the first disc! God, I have been stuck on it since I bought it 4 weeks ago. I guess to each his/her own but I really dont think it is as horrible as you are sayin that it is! Thats just my opinion though!
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i got emancipation for $7 USD, and there are quite a few songs i love, but also some i ALWAYS have to skip. like courtin' time. sorry, but i don't like it.
keepers for sure: somebody's somebody white mansion (i'm sorry but i have LOTS of love for this song, and i don't know why, i just like it. it always gets stuck in my head.) i can't make you love me right back here in my arms one kiss at a time dreamin' about u soul sanctuary the love we make jam of the year | |
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my spelling was about as bad as this post... what i meant was
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Notice that everyone says, "most of it is crap except for these few songs:", and then everybody lists different songs. Most of the songs on Emancipation have been listed at least once. 
I like Emancipation. My favs: Jam of the Year Get Yo Groove On Courtin' Time I Can't Make You Love Me Sex in the Summer Soul Sanctuary Dreamin' About You Joint to Joint F,L,S,M,W Style Sleep Around One of Us The Love We Make | |
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Everybody disses on "Damned if I do". I swear I love that song! He really jams on it at the end- the piano and horns are great. There's this almost latin vibe on it that's rare amongst Prince tunes. It reminds me of "In a Large Room with no Light". A really good song musically, I don't understand why others here don't like it.
But everybody likes different songs on Emancipation. So really, Prince could only do wrong with this album unless he just released damn near everything, which he did. The production does seem a bit tame and less interesting than other Prince albums, but somehow it also gives it this uplifting, happy feeling throughout the album that doesn't exist on much of his other material. It's the kind of life affirming production style that was only previously heard on the Lovesexy and Graffiti Bridge albums. For all the marks against the album, I'm definitely glad it was released. And you know Prince thought highly of it, saying it was the album he was born to make (although some of his praise reeked of promotion and an "I Hate WB" attitude)... | |
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Anji said: dewmass said: Anji said: Emancipation is not about live instrumentation. If that's what you like most in Prince's music, you won't be able to appreciate this album for what it is. It's fantastic on a whole number of other levels.
 Such as? Its great as a comparison piece, showing how bad a great musician can get Its also great if you run out of coasters Another level may be a cure for insomnia Or maybe anger management, cause it bore the tits of even the most harderned criminal Were these the levels you were thinking of??? No. The levels are R'n'B, pop and neo-soul, musically speaking. Naturally, Prince cuts through these elements with his funk. If you don't actually like R'n'B, pop and neo-soul, you'll be struggling to appreciate it's brilliance.
[This message was edited Fri Mar 14 15:30:18 PST 2003 by Anji] I'm sorry, I have to disagree. If this neo-soul u're talking about is the same as the nu-soul and urban soul of the likes of D'Angelo and Maxwell then I think u're completely wrong. There is very little soul to this record, despite it being generally a very happy, joyous work. It's not passionate enough to be funky and for the most part it sounds rushed and not well thought out a complete, well rounded body of work. | |
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teller said: This is ridiculous...you cannot "chew" music upon first listen. If you're going to judge it that way, then to hell with you, you'll never learn anything.
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U do actually get a decent understanding of an album upon your first listen if u just stick in the CD player and go from start to finish. I feel able to critically analyse it after a first listen, so I am doing so. Maybe it's the lack of depth of the piece that makes this possible. | |
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Essence said and I agree too:
I agree with Teller. This blanket writing off of music by an artist supposedly dear to your heart on first listens alone is silly. Sawatdiikhrap especially as Prince fans don't we know that we always have to really get into his music. Since you are interested in Eastern philosophy you probalbly know the concept of attentiveness. Anyway, when the cd came out I too thought that a double cd would have been much more successful. If I recall correctly Prince made more money of Emancipation than of Purple Rain. IMO the album has a light hearted feel to it, it is expressing the way he felt at this time. Beside the fact that his baby died EMI was sold and Prince suddenly stopped promoting the album. ¡May one learn to see the worl as it is and not the way one wants it to be! | |
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It's the morning after and I want to sum up my feeling about this album, before I endeavour to listen to it again.
That should instantly add some worth to my opinions. Worth that was hitherto lacking u inform me.
So nice of u to allow me a chance to give a more worthy opinion at some later date. Anyway, I agree with absolutely everything dewmass has said. I think this album is disappointing, that's the key word for me. It's not completely useless since it's a 3CD set and it'd be impossible over the vast canvas that at least a few brushstrokes wouldn't be good. These tracks I consider to be quite good and don't mind listening to: Somebody's Somebody. Eye Can't Make U Love Me. Soul Sanctuary. The Holy River. Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother, Wife. Emancipation. These tracks are ok and might find themselves being listened to if put on a little compilation of released stuff. However, none of these tracks even come close to the musicianship and passion of TRC. If u chose the best 6 tracks on TRC u would have an amazing example of the diversity and genius of both Prince's exuberant playing and his musical imagination. With these 6 tracks above all u'd have is a few reasonable mildy soulful and funky pop songs. That's my verdict. | |
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Excellent! Seems like everybody accepted my definitive decision on the merits of Emancipation.
Emancipation is officially rated: Nearly reasonably alright. | |
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Emancipation was and in many ways still is a major let down.
Of all the Prince albums ever released this is the one that always, every time makes me think "if only"... We'd been so hyped up from 1994 to early 1996 that Prince had been keeping the best music aside to put on these cds. Mayte told people in interviews that he'd completed more or less 52 songs for the set and that it was going to be unlike anything the musicworld had ever seen. It would b the biggest solo-release ever. And what with the whole Gold/Come/Exodus/Undertaker vibe going on, me and I'm sure a whole lot of other people had expected songs in a similar vein. Something load and real with the NPG rocking out. Screaming guitar and live drums adorned by innovative production. So you're at home, listening to Gold/Come/Undertaker/Xodus and thinking to yourselves, "Hell, he is going to release this 3cd set with some 40 songs on it [supposed to be even better than these here] and I can't even begin to imagine what the hell kind of shock that will bring once it's here. I think most of us expected a 3cd Gold/Come style box & I remember when I got it from the store and put the 1st disc in the player. My heart just sank. There are nice moments, and there are about 7 or 8 great tracks on there. But none to match the beauty and the wildness of anything that came from the 1993 early 1996 era. Even half of "Chaos & Disorder" sounds more real and appealing than Emancipation. "Emancipation" That has got to be one of the worst
title tracks ever. Except maybe for "Grafitty Bridge". Like someone else said, it was just so hard to believe that he had been fighting the battle with WB and when he got his feet in to test the water with other labels he came up with this collection and called it the album he was "born to make". It just didn't make sense. I guess that cast a shadow over the few remaining good songs on the set. They're all good, but compared to the stuff released just 1 or 2 years before that, it is a complete piece of plastic shit. It would make for a nice short album or an excellent EP. [This message was edited Sat Mar 15 2:25:17 PST 2003 by IstenSzek] and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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Moonbeam said: The only ones I really like on the first disc are "Mr. Happy" (Gasp!) You just lost all credibility  --------------------
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In This Bed I Scream! | |
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I don't think it was prince intent was to blow people away with the innovativeness of the album. For the most part the album is radio friendly. Which is what he thought he needed at the time. There are a lot of reasons that many of u don't like this album but i believe there is also a lot there to like. There is much there to ponder much to digest. Don't dismiss it out of hand. Prince never releases anything he doesn't like. Never think he just throws something together. He is way too much of a prefectionist to do that. U may not like the vision but i assure u he did. Anyone who has ever been in love surely can feel his love for Mayte on disc 2. If u can't then stop now because u are way off base reading his heart & passion.
I don't feel it is his best work, but its a long way from being crap. Some people seem to confuse their own feelings for the music with the actaul properties contained in the music. If u don't like a Bach or Mozort symphony piece doesn't mean it is poorly written. U just may not like that type of music. A song is not just instrumentation. So many seem to have a problem with the production used. But there is more to these song than that. Think lyrics and structure. And the wealth of ideas that are present in these songs. So many of u spend much to much time editing the vision. Some song u may not "get" until years later. Don't discard them. | |
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'The Love We Make' is fantastic.
When I think of 'Emancipation' I think of this song. 'Holy River' is also very nice. | |
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The Love We Make is arguably the best Prince spiritual song of all time. Also, Emale is one of my favorite songs to listen to when I go back and forth to Ohio in my car. My Computer is really emotional for me, because I don't know how many times after me and my first wife broke up that I felt the way he did in that song- plus, the musical arrangement in that song is excellent- very professional in a musical sense, and knowing Prince, if he is anything like me, he probably didn't take long to record and mix that one. Sleep Around, Love4OneAnother, The Human Body, the beat and rhythm arrangements on Jam Of The Year and Emancipation- there is a lot more to this album if you give it a chance and let it get in you.
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IstenSzek said: Emancipation was and in many ways still is a major let down.
Of all the Prince albums ever released this is the one that always, every time makes me think "if only"... We'd been so hyped up from 1994 to early 1996 that Prince had been keeping the best music aside to put on these cds. Mayte told people in interviews that he'd completed more or less 52 songs for the set and that it was going to be unlike anything the musicworld had ever seen. It would b the biggest solo-release ever. And what with the whole Gold/Come/Exodus/Undertaker vibe going on, me and I'm sure a whole lot of other people had expected songs in a similar vein. Something load and real with the NPG rocking out. Screaming guitar and live drums adorned by innovative production. So you're at home, listening to Gold/Come/Undertaker/Xodus and thinking to yourselves, "Hell, he is going to release this 3cd set with some 40 songs on it [supposed to be even better than these here] and I can't even begin to imagine what the hell kind of shock that will bring once it's here. I think most of us expected a 3cd Gold/Come style box & I remember when I got it from the store and put the 1st disc in the player. My heart just sank. There are nice moments, and there are about 7 or 8 great tracks on there. But none to match the beauty and the wildness of anything that came from the 1993 early 1996 era. Even half of "Chaos & Disorder" sounds more real and appealing than Emancipation. "Emancipation" That has got to be one of the worst
title tracks ever. Except maybe for "Grafitty Bridge". Like someone else said, it was just so hard to believe that he had been fighting the battle with WB and when he got his feet in to test the water with other labels he came up with this collection and called it the album he was "born to make". It just didn't make sense. I guess that cast a shadow over the few remaining good songs on the set. They're all good, but compared to the stuff released just 1 or 2 years before that, it is a complete piece of plastic shit. It would make for a nice short album or an excellent EP. [This message was edited Sat Mar 15 2:25:17 PST 2003 by IstenSzek] Pefect!! My feelings are succinctly and eloquently put in this post. The sheer disapointment of the album was and remains the overiding emotion. He had turned a corner with the whole Gold/Exodus period and was making really tight, funky music that rocked, only to go back to over-produced MOR rubbish. Chaos is a better album!!! ----------------------------------------- | |
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I enjoy Emancipation as is.
The song New World reminds me of something Jessie Johnson would do. | |
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I like most of this album. My very favourites being Sleep Around, Joint 2 joint, My Computer and Soul Sanctuary. | |
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It just needs to be whittled down, like Crystal Ball.
MY version: Right Back Here in My Arms White Mansion Somebody's Somebody Mr. Happy In This Bed I Scream Sex in the Summer Soul Sanctuary Dreamin About U E-male Joint 2 joint Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother Slave Face Down Style One of Us Sleep Around Emancipation Sorry you didn't like it,,, | |
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I made it into an 11 track single CD, with a tracklisting as follows:
Somebody's Somebody. Betcha By Golly Wow. I Can't Make U Love Me. Soul Sanctuary. Curious Child. Dreamin' About U. The Holy River. Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother, Wife. La La (Means I Love U). One Of Us. Emancipation. There's filler on this too, but I had to make it at least close to 60 minutes. I might still end up skipping some of these tracks.
But it's not completely useless. I could imagine myself putting this CD on sometimes. It's quite a lighthearted, easy listen. | |
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First time I listened to Emancipation, I was very dissapointed.. I think it was my 6th Prince cd/album and I expected "Emancipation" to be better.. I think you'll like/accept it with time.. I mean its not super, but there is some nice songs on the whole album, but definitely one of the last albums I'd choose to listen to! | |
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this thread is funny  ... i'm not a big fan of emancipation | |
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Sawatdiikhrap said:
I made it into an 11 track single CD, with a tracklisting as follows: Somebody's Somebody. Betcha By Golly Wow. I Can't Make U Love Me. Soul Sanctuary. Curious Child. Dreamin' About U. The Holy River. Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother, Wife. La La (Means I Love U). One Of Us. Emancipation. There's filler on this too, but I had to make it at least close to 60 minutes. I might still end up skipping some of these tracks. But it's not completely useless. I could imagine myself putting this CD on sometimes. It's quite a lighthearted, easy listen. --- It looks like the album is growing on you. And yes most of it is lighthearted and easy to listen too. Nothing to compare to TRC though but just remember how long it took Prince to come out with TRC and how different it is to Rave. But I guess we all love Prince for his diversity. At least that is why I love his music. Peace | |
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MrBliss said: this thread is funny
... i'm not a big fan of emancipationI didn't mean for it to be funny, but that's alright. U are a strange duck. | |
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fran said: Sawatdiikhrap said:
I made it into an 11 track single CD, with a tracklisting as follows: Somebody's Somebody. Betcha By Golly Wow. I Can't Make U Love Me. Soul Sanctuary. Curious Child. Dreamin' About U. The Holy River. Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother, Wife. La La (Means I Love U). One Of Us. Emancipation. There's filler on this too, but I had to make it at least close to 60 minutes. I might still end up skipping some of these tracks. But it's not completely useless. I could imagine myself putting this CD on sometimes. It's quite a lighthearted, easy listen. --- It looks like the album is growing on you. And yes most of it is lighthearted and easy to listen too. Nothing to compare to TRC though but just remember how long it took Prince to come out with TRC and how different it is to Rave. But I guess we all love Prince for his diversity. At least that is why I love his music. Peace It has grown on me a little. I think I will end up listening to this compilation I've made, mainly because when I'm with my wife it's something we can both listen to easily, whereas some of Prince's stuff is a bit too intense for her. Still, from 3 CDs to arrive at a single disc of 11 songs, some of which are almost still filler, is pretty bad. | |
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I think 'Emancipation' would have made a stunning 2-CD set,or an excellent 16-track single CD.Get rid of the four remakes,and lame songs like "Style" and "La Da Da",and you would have one of the best albums of his career. | |
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Emancipation was the 2nd P Album i bought... i bought the  album 1st & then i was Hook'd from there... everything's a mood. i don't like Chaos & DisOrder...Peace ... & Stay Funky ...
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DavidEye said: I think 'Emancipation' would have made a stunning 2-CD set,or an excellent 16-track single CD.Get rid of the four remakes,and lame songs like "Style" and "La Da Da",and you would have one of the best albums of his career.
Are u serious? I'd put it in his bottom 5 or 6 in whatever arrangement. | |
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