Based on the timing of recording for much of the orginal Gold Experience material, was it Princes intention to have TGE follow the Symbol album in 1993? How different would it have been if released as he wanted? The original versions of many of the ultimately released tracks are superior imo before he had the chance to over dub and over dub and over dub the life out of them for 1995. Would he even have left WB if TGE was released in '93?

http://princevault.com/in...Experience

I think this will answer all your questions.
A good hand full or more of Alternate tracks have been floating around for years now, Some are in great quality too

Apparently, Prince wanted Come and TGE to be released at the same time. It's unclear to me did he really intend them to be released on the same date or was the release of TGE simply supposed to follow shortly after Come would be released.

novabrkr said:

Apparently, Prince wanted Come and TGE to be released at the same time. It's unclear to me did he really intend them to be released on the same date or was the release of TGE simply supposed to follow shortly after Come would be released.

He wanted Come to be released first,then The Gold Experience to be released a few weeks later.It's easy to see why Warners rejected this idea

He should have shelved Come and released TGE in the summer of '94 instead.At that point,the album had a totally different tracklist,which meant that the world would have heard amazing stuff like "Days Of Wild","Ripopgodazippa","Interactive",etc.

When TGE was finally released in late 1995,he had tinkered with many songs and removed some of the really good tracks.It's still a brilliant album,but I think things would have been so much different if it had come out in the summer of '94.It would have had a bigger impact.

it's always a mysterie to me why people shit on "come" so much and call it contractual

filler and then praise "the gold experience" into stellar space.

all the songs were recorded during the same sessions and went from album to album,

as the tracklists and projects changed and evolved.

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i think it would have been interesting if he'd gotten the green light to release both the

albums roughly at the same time. the test pressing for come is better than the album

that was actually released. and likewise some of the early configurations of "gold" in

1993/1994 were better than the final album, especially with the more basic mixes of

some of the tracks included.

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but in the end, who cares, we eventually got most of the material from both of these

albums in their various incarnations on the "crystal ball" release. sure, i'd really have

loved it if prince had been able to have some more succes with these killer tracks he

had under his belt for these albums. but ultimately, as long as i get to have these on

my computer and listen to them, i don't really care.

God only knows what P's 1993 project woulda been if WB hadn't wanted to release The Hits/The B-Sides but probably more or less an album made of the Glam Slam Ulysses tracks in their original form. After yeah, we all know the story about the simultaneous release P wanted 4 Come and TGE. I'm not sure whether TGE would have been a better album in its 1994 configuration: it would have been less power rock and more R&B oriented, I really love both configurations so much that I culdn't choose, but anyway we got the outtakes on Crystal Ball so I'm fine with the way it happened. The only thing's that disappointing is that, no matter the configuration, this album coulda been a major hit in the vein of D&P if its promotion hadn't suffered from the delays of its release and the Prince/WB war.

Both are great cd's...just glad they got released

Cool info from everyone, so weird to see TGE changing so many times! In their final forms I can't even mention Come with TGE on the same page, I never could get into Come...

IstenSzek said:

it's always a mysterie to me why people shit on "come" so much and call it contractual

filler and then praise "the gold experience" into stellar space.

all the songs were recorded during the same sessions and went from album to album,

as the tracklists and projects changed and evolved.

.

i think it would have been interesting if he'd gotten the green light to release both the

albums roughly at the same time. the test pressing for come is better than the album

that was actually released. and likewise some of the early configurations of "gold" in

1993/1994 were better than the final album, especially with the more basic mixes of

some of the tracks included.

.

but in the end, who cares, we eventually got most of the material from both of these

albums in their various incarnations on the "crystal ball" release. sure, i'd really have

loved it if prince had been able to have some more succes with these killer tracks he

had under his belt for these albums. but ultimately, as long as i get to have these on

my computer and listen to them, i don't really care.

The statement I highlighted isn't true. Most of what would become Come was recorded early in 93. The Gold Experience material wasn't recorded until later in 93.

motherfunka said:

IstenSzek said:

it's always a mysterie to me why people shit on "come" so much and call it contractual

filler and then praise "the gold experience" into stellar space.

all the songs were recorded during the same sessions and went from album to album,

as the tracklists and projects changed and evolved.

.

i think it would have been interesting if he'd gotten the green light to release both the

albums roughly at the same time. the test pressing for come is better than the album

that was actually released. and likewise some of the early configurations of "gold" in

1993/1994 were better than the final album, especially with the more basic mixes of

some of the tracks included.

.

but in the end, who cares, we eventually got most of the material from both of these

albums in their various incarnations on the "crystal ball" release. sure, i'd really have

loved it if prince had been able to have some more succes with these killer tracks he

had under his belt for these albums. but ultimately, as long as i get to have these on

my computer and listen to them, i don't really care.

The statement I highlighted isn't true. Most of what would become Come was recorded early in 93. The Gold Experience material wasn't recorded until later in 93.

i stand corrected

i always make that mistake because there are a few tracks that were on come first and then on

gold in the end:

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Dark/Come and Endorphinmachine/Dolphin has basic tracks recorded on the same day in jan 93

IstenSzek said:

motherfunka said:

The statement I highlighted isn't true. Most of what would become Come was recorded early in 93. The Gold Experience material wasn't recorded until later in 93.

i stand corrected

i always make that mistake because there are a few tracks that were on come first and then on

gold in the end:

.

Dark/Come and Endorphinmachine/Dolphin has basic tracks recorded on the same day in jan 93

ACtually there were 2 main sets of sessions: the Glam Slam Ulysses sessions in late 92/early 93 and the later Gold sessions in late 93/early 94, but the tracks from the first set were for the most part updated to fit with the sound of the Gold sessions and tracks from both indeed kept moving from one project to the other. There was supposed to be a 3 CD-set at some point that would have contained the whole collection and possibly some C&D tracks as well (the infamous The Dawn project, which would have been an absolute masterpiece). For the most part, Exodus and Child Of The Sun (as well as the unreleased 24 by Madhouse and some of the stuff from 1-800 New Funk) can also be considered part of the same, continuous, series of sessions.

IstenSzek said:

it's always a mysterie to me why people shit on "come" so much and call it contractual

filler and then praise "the gold experience" into stellar space.

all the songs were recorded during the same sessions and went from album to album,

as the tracklists and projects changed and evolved.

To me,'Come' is a mediocre album.It's not terrible,it just doesn't seem like much effort was put into it.'TGE',on the other hand,is often considered to be Prince's best album of the 90s.It sounds vibrant and inspired.