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PrintableAnji said: Without Dirty Mind, there would be no Graffiti Bridge.
 i know--without it he wouldn't have the crappy crap he's done as well, sad 2 say.  | |
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Anji said: Savannah said: hardly...
I would hardly call The Rainbow Children being 'wussy,' as you put it. Can you sense how many of his own fans he is alientating? If anything, it's a brave move to put your true beliefs on record, knowing this will segregate your audience.
He's too wussy in TRC Controvery he says it all loud and clear, not hidden and in the background. We need 2 come 2gether Come 2gether as ONE Prince is a pussy with his balls hidden deep in his bible.. face it. Haven't heard his voice roar since "The WAR" Well wussy or not.. at least it had the potential to cause more controversy than the earlier album.. if TRC wasn't such an underground cult release that nobody ever heard of outside of the org. | |
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cosmicslop said: Uh, Miabocca, I think you may have misinterpreted this line if you think it is anti homosexual.
It is a retelling of the Genesis story, and refers to the temptation of the wise one's (Prince's) woman (Mayte?) by the serpent, or in this case the resistor. The resistor knows that the wise one's love for god is so strong, that he decides to assimilate/tempt the woman first and only. She falls, and is banished from the garden/rainbow forever (Mayte leaves Prince for good). The remainder of the album is concerned with the wise one (Prince) explicitly laying down his conditions for a new love - ie the muse (Mani?) must share his understanding and love for god to truly understand and love him. By "She Loves Me 4 Me" it is clear that the muse has reached this understanding and true love. It reminds me of the scene in GB when he plays hangman with Aura. Through this main narrative, Prince touches on common themes of the medicocrity of mass media, the history of his people and the treatment of his musical heroes by this mass media, and how ultimately he doesn't care for their rules, because he is secure within the walls of his palace to do as he pleases. His faith in god is his faith in his abilities because his music is a gift from god, and rises above the criticisms of others. At least, that is one of my takes on it. There are lots of levels of understanding on this album, which is why it is one of my favourites - whilst people have said it is explicit and unambiguous, I believe that it can be interpreted in many ways, as most of his albums can. For all the dressin gup in pseudo biblical terms, however, I do think one major strand in TRC is autobiographical, and describes how Prince has moved on from the Mayte years and found an equal. Don't forget a few years ago he made a huge public and artistic thing out of his relationship to Mayte and for him to move on required an equal artistic statement. However he has learnt to keep his new love out of the public eye, and to express his love in a less explicit way than previously. This response should be nominated for The Org's Most Intelligent Response Price, should one exist. 
Having said that, I also think people shouldn't see TRC as a manifest (I, Prince, beleives this, and this is what I stand for, and this is what you all shoudl stand for!), but rather a story with many different meanings (like the interpretation cosmicslop gave). I see TRC as a celebration of the victory of freedom and liberated people from the strains of politics, suppression and despair. The beginning of the story is truly negative, with many references to the bible to explain his point. (Again, it's not a manifest) He then goes on to finding his true love (music and liberation) and it ends with one big party, where everyone is ONE/ part of the Rainbow Children. And in many ways, it is as uplifting as LoveSexy, but Prince uses more biblical references to clarify the meanings and to mold it into a mythical story.  555-4444 you're on coffee talk. | |
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Savannah said: Anji said: Savannah said: hardly...
I would hardly call The Rainbow Children being 'wussy,' as you put it. Can you sense how many of his own fans he is alientating? If anything, it's a brave move to put your true beliefs on record, knowing this will segregate your audience.
He's too wussy in TRC Controvery he says it all loud and clear, not hidden and in the background. We need 2 come 2gether Come 2gether as ONE Prince is a pussy with his balls hidden deep in his bible.. face it. Haven't heard his voice roar since "The WAR" Well wussy or not.. at least it had the potential to cause more controversy than the earlier album.. if TRC wasn't such an underground cult release that nobody ever heard of outside of the org. The War comes AFTER New Power Soul, an album to which people reacted that he had already long since lost his talent. I think this illustrates how people tend to dislike a new album until it is no longer new. Then all of a sudden 1998 was still his artistic highlight, but 2001 isn't... 555-4444 you're on coffee talk. | |
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Savannah said: Anji said: Savannah said: hardly...
I would hardly call The Rainbow Children being 'wussy,' as you put it. Can you sense how many of his own fans he is alientating? If anything, it's a brave move to put your true beliefs on record, knowing this will segregate your audience.
He's too wussy in TRC Controvery he says it all loud and clear, not hidden and in the background. Prince is a pussy with his balls hidden deep in his bible.. face it. Haven't heard his voice roar since "The WAR" Well wussy or not.. at least it had the potential to cause more controversy than the earlier album.. if TRC wasn't such an underground cult release that nobody ever heard of outside of the org. | |
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NuPwrSoul said: Supernova, cosmic, anji... y'all holdin down while i'm gone. Keep it up yall
 What an ego! Odd, misplaced sense of importance..."yall" | |
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antoon said: cosmicslop said: Uh, Miabocca, I think you may have misinterpreted this line if you think it is anti homosexual.
It is a retelling of the Genesis story, and refers to the temptation of the wise one's (Prince's) woman (Mayte?) by the serpent, or in this case the resistor. The resistor knows that the wise one's love for god is so strong, that he decides to assimilate/tempt the woman first and only. She falls, and is banished from the garden/rainbow forever (Mayte leaves Prince for good). The remainder of the album is concerned with the wise one (Prince) explicitly laying down his conditions for a new love - ie the muse (Mani?) must share his understanding and love for god to truly understand and love him. By "She Loves Me 4 Me" it is clear that the muse has reached this understanding and true love. It reminds me of the scene in GB when he plays hangman with Aura. Through this main narrative, Prince touches on common themes of the medicocrity of mass media, the history of his people and the treatment of his musical heroes by this mass media, and how ultimately he doesn't care for their rules, because he is secure within the walls of his palace to do as he pleases. His faith in god is his faith in his abilities because his music is a gift from god, and rises above the criticisms of others. At least, that is one of my takes on it. There are lots of levels of understanding on this album, which is why it is one of my favourites - whilst people have said it is explicit and unambiguous, I believe that it can be interpreted in many ways, as most of his albums can. For all the dressin gup in pseudo biblical terms, however, I do think one major strand in TRC is autobiographical, and describes how Prince has moved on from the Mayte years and found an equal. Don't forget a few years ago he made a huge public and artistic thing out of his relationship to Mayte and for him to move on required an equal artistic statement. However he has learnt to keep his new love out of the public eye, and to express his love in a less explicit way than previously. This response should be nominated for The Org's Most Intelligent Response Price, should one exist.
Having said that, I also think people shouldn't see TRC as a manifest (I, Prince, beleives this, and this is what I stand for, and this is what you all shoudl stand for!), but rather a story with many different meanings (like the interpretation cosmicslop gave). I see TRC as a celebration of the victory of freedom and liberated people from the strains of politics, suppression and despair. The beginning of the story is truly negative, with many references to the bible to explain his point. (Again, it's not a manifest) He then goes on to finding his true love (music and liberation) and it ends with one big party, where everyone is ONE/ part of the Rainbow Children. And in many ways, it is as uplifting as LoveSexy, but Prince uses more biblical references to clarify the meanings and to mold it into a mythical story. Hi. I like your discriptions of The Rainbow Children. You both seem to have an open heart. It makes me happy to see that peeps can enjoy and appreciate Princes music without thinking Prince is 'pushing' somethin on 'em. I am not a JW, but I do my best to follow Universal Law... Peace! Mesage from the Happy Sunshine | |
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HappySunshine said: antoon said: cosmicslop said: Uh, Miabocca, I think you may have misinterpreted this line if you think it is anti homosexual.
It is a retelling of the Genesis story, and refers to the temptation of the wise one's (Prince's) woman (Mayte?) by the serpent, or in this case the resistor. The resistor knows that the wise one's love for god is so strong, that he decides to assimilate/tempt the woman first and only. She falls, and is banished from the garden/rainbow forever (Mayte leaves Prince for good). The remainder of the album is concerned with the wise one (Prince) explicitly laying down his conditions for a new love - ie the muse (Mani?) must share his understanding and love for god to truly understand and love him. By "She Loves Me 4 Me" it is clear that the muse has reached this understanding and true love. It reminds me of the scene in GB when he plays hangman with Aura. Through this main narrative, Prince touches on common themes of the medicocrity of mass media, the history of his people and the treatment of his musical heroes by this mass media, and how ultimately he doesn't care for their rules, because he is secure within the walls of his palace to do as he pleases. His faith in god is his faith in his abilities because his music is a gift from god, and rises above the criticisms of others. At least, that is one of my takes on it. There are lots of levels of understanding on this album, which is why it is one of my favourites - whilst people have said it is explicit and unambiguous, I believe that it can be interpreted in many ways, as most of his albums can. For all the dressin gup in pseudo biblical terms, however, I do think one major strand in TRC is autobiographical, and describes how Prince has moved on from the Mayte years and found an equal. Don't forget a few years ago he made a huge public and artistic thing out of his relationship to Mayte and for him to move on required an equal artistic statement. However he has learnt to keep his new love out of the public eye, and to express his love in a less explicit way than previously. This response should be nominated for The Org's Most Intelligent Response Price, should one exist.
Having said that, I also think people shouldn't see TRC as a manifest (I, Prince, beleives this, and this is what I stand for, and this is what you all shoudl stand for!), but rather a story with many different meanings (like the interpretation cosmicslop gave). I see TRC as a celebration of the victory of freedom and liberated people from the strains of politics, suppression and despair. The beginning of the story is truly negative, with many references to the bible to explain his point. (Again, it's not a manifest) He then goes on to finding his true love (music and liberation) and it ends with one big party, where everyone is ONE/ part of the Rainbow Children. And in many ways, it is as uplifting as LoveSexy, but Prince uses more biblical references to clarify the meanings and to mold it into a mythical story. Hi. I like your discriptions of The Rainbow Children. You both seem to have an open heart. It makes me happy to see that peeps can enjoy and appreciate Princes music without thinking Prince is 'pushing' somethin on 'em. I am not a JW, but I do my best to follow Universal Law... Peace! | |
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