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Reply #210 posted 08/22/13 3:21pm

Tremolina

Ain't no org as we know it, without you madam


Nor with the Prince we know.


Question:

Akhenaten was King, Pharaoh of Egypt
but Prince is just Prince and doesn't want to be King

then why does he still invoke the idea that he is and does?

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Reply #211 posted 08/22/13 3:31pm

Tremolina

Or does he not?
It's all quite illusive...


Welcome, you have just accessed the akashic records genetic information division.
This program is required for those wishing to obtain a marriage blessing from the kingdom.
When you wish to begin this program,
Place you're right hand on the scanner
And tightly clench up you're butt cheeks as you might feel a slight electrical shock.
Please select the race history you desire.
You have selected African-American.
This is your history

First of all, the term "black and white" is a fallacy.
It simply is another way of saying "this or that".
Let's examine the term "this or that" in its ultimate form which is:
"This" means the truth or "that" which is resistant to it.
When a minority realizes its similarities on a higher level- not just "black"-
But people of color, and higher still "indigenous",
And even higher still, "from the tribe of",
And yet higher- the "Rainbow Children".
When this understanding comes,
The so-called minority becomes a majority in the wink of an eye.
This action will cause a reaction, or resistance.
The source of this resistance must be banished as it is in direct conflict
With the initial action. It cannot be assimilated,
For its very nature is resistance.
In other words, one cannot serve two masters.
You are either "this" or "that" which is not "this".

End of part one.
To continue,
Select the program family name
And type in the current government name you wish history on.

(London, England sometime in the early 1600s)

"We have the god-given right to run out of our colonies
Anyone who does not bow down to our law. hear, hear?"

"Come on, come on keep it moving here.
What's your name boy?"
"Abu cah"
"Well it ain't now; it's Tom Lynch."

Mirror, mirror what you see?
Have I still got those dark clouds over me?
Or am I really feeling what I feel? the last days of the devil's deal
Mirror, what you see?

Devil, devil what you know?
You been here since 1914, but now you got to go
You been hidin' behind corporate eyes
You want to war, but you can't fight
Devil, you got to go

You might say, "what you mad about?"
But you still got your family name
Pleased to meet you, Mr. Rosenbloom
I'll be John Blackwell just the same
What's your family name?

Teacher, teacher what you say?
Did we really come over in a boat?
Did it really go down that way?
Or did I arrive before and ruin Thanksgiving Day?
Teacher, what you say?

Preacher, preacher is it true?
That Jesus wants me to give my money to the likes of you?
Ride around in you're Lexus coupe
Drive us to the cleaners in a pinstripe suit
Preacher, that ain't truth!

You might say, "what you mad about?"
But you still got your family name
Pleased to meet you, Mr. Pearlman
You can call me Clay. Now can I play?

People, people what's your name?
Maybe we should start all over
Let everybody get in the game
Put up a one-gloved fist
Make a sound, violet brown

You might say "what you mad about?"
But you still got your family name
Pleased to meet you Mr. Goldstruck.

We found this tape in the akashic records. This is Thomas Jefferson

"My fellow Americans, if there is a just God, we're gonna pay for this!"

"Black men and white men, Jews and gentiles,
Protestants and Catholics will be able to join hands
In the words of the old negro spiritual,
"Free at last, free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last!"








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[Edited 8/24/13 13:42pm]

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Reply #212 posted 08/22/13 3:50pm

Tremolina

Those last, famous words are from dr. Martin Luther King of course.

The one Prince also refered to on the Sacrifice of Victor (and afaik not any other record).

Never understood my old friends laughin'
They got high when everythin' else got wrong
(Pass the booze up here)
Dr. King was killed and the streets they started burnin'
When the smoke was cleared their high was gone

Education got important so important to Victor
A little more important than ripple and weed


Martin Luther by the way was, as we should all know, one of the greatest Reformers of Christianity.

It's interesting that Prince doesn't have a Catholic, but a Protestant religious background.

They usually say his mother or part of his family attended the 7th Day adventist church.

Not really sure if that's all true, but it's not Catholic how he first has been taught to think, religiously speaking.


But it's not the "school" he mentions in the Everlasting Now either.

Is it the school of Jehova's witnesses? Or could it also be yet a different school?


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[Edited 8/22/13 15:55pm]

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Reply #213 posted 08/22/13 3:59pm

Tremolina

Martin Luther (German: [ˈmaɐ̯tiːn ˈlʊtɐ] ( listen); 10 November 1483 – 18 February 1546) was a German monk, Catholic priest, professor of theology and seminal figure of a reform movement in 16th century Christianity, subsequently known as the Protestant Reformation.[1] He strongly disputed the claim that freedom from God's punishment for sin could be purchased with money. He confronted indulgence salesman Johann Tetzel, a Dominican friar, with his Ninety-Five Theses in 1517. His refusal to retract all of his writings at the demand of Pope Leo X in 1520 and the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V at the Diet of Worms in 1521 resulted in his excommunication by the Pope and condemnation as an outlaw by the Emperor.

Luther taught that salvation is not earned by good deeds but received only as a free gift of God's grace through faith in Jesus Christas redeemer from sin. His theology challenged the authority of the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church by teaching that the Bible is the only source of divinely revealed knowledge[2] and opposed sacerdotalism by considering all baptized Christians to be a holy priesthood.[3] Those who identify with Luther's teachings are called Lutherans.


[Edited 8/22/13 16:01pm]

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Reply #214 posted 08/23/13 4:46am

Superconductor

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Interesting thread. Not sure whether to take it seriously or not.

Looked up my first and middle name. The description for my middle name is surprisingly accurate, that of my first name not so.

I tried reading through Tremolina's and Tempest's posts. I am not sure where this discussion is going.

Is it true that in the last few years (maybe since 2010?) Prince's lyrics do not have so many spiritual references anymore? Also lyrics in songs released this year have none of that spirituality. Even FIxurlifeup which should have some serious lyrics given the song title, imho has really silly lyrics.
...every night another symphony...
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Reply #215 posted 08/24/13 1:08pm

Tremolina

^

It's a serious thread Superconductor, but not meant to be taken too seriously.

Talking about names, what does 'Superconductor' really mean?

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Reply #216 posted 08/24/13 1:11pm

Tremolina

Tremolina said:

Ain't no org as we know it, without you madam


Nor with the Prince we know.


Question:

Akhenaten was King, Pharaoh of Egypt
but Prince is just Prince and doesn't want to be King

then why does he still invoke the idea that he is and does?

This thread has more than 4000 views.

Surely you would like to have something to say about this. wink

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Reply #217 posted 08/24/13 1:20pm

Tremolina

Definition: A superconductor is an element or metallic alloy which, when cooled to near absolute zero, dramatically lose all electrical resistance. In principle, superconductors can allow electrical current to flow without any energy loss (although, in practice, an ideal superconductor is very hard to produce). This type of current is called a supercurrent.

In addition, superconductors exhibit the Meissner effect in which they cancel all magnetic flux inside, becoming perfectly diamagnetic (discovered in 1933). In this case, the magnetic field lines actually travel around the cooled superconductor. It is this property of superconductors which is frequently used in magnetic levitation experiments.

Superconductivity was first discovered in 1911, when mercury was cooled to 4 degrees Kelvin by Dutch physicist Heike Kamerlingh Onnes, which earned him the 1913 Nobel Prize in physics. In the years since, this field has greatly expanded and many other forms of superconductors have been discovered. The basic theory of superconductivity, BCS Theory, earned the scientists - John Bardeen, Leon Cooper, and John Schrieffer - the 1972 Nobel Prize in physics. A portion of the 1973 Nobel Prize in physics went to Brian Josephson, also for work with superconductivity.

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Reply #218 posted 08/24/13 1:46pm

Tremolina

http://www.first-names-meanings.com/names/name-ANDY.html

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Reply #219 posted 08/24/13 2:22pm

Tremolina

I'm here to tell you that there's a better way

Is there any as a other POPular artist around, that spreads The Word to the People, like Prince does?

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Reply #220 posted 08/24/13 2:24pm

Tempest

Tremolina said:

Tremolina said:

Ain't no org as we know it, without you madam


Nor with the Prince we know.


Question:

Akhenaten was King, Pharaoh of Egypt
but Prince is just Prince and doesn't want to be King

then why does he still invoke the idea that he is and does?

This thread has more than 4000 views.

Surely you would like to have something to say about this. wink

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Am I the madam of whom you speak?

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If so, I like how I get credited with the 4,000 views. lol I promise you I haven't visited this thread that many times. Not even close. lol There must be a lot of lurkers coming and going. Just a hunch. lol

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[Edited 8/24/13 14:32pm]

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Reply #221 posted 08/24/13 2:32pm

Tremolina

Tempest said:

I don’t believe that Prince has seen the top YET. Big cars, women and fancy clothes are NOT the top. NOT EVEN CLOSE! In fact, it’s not even “just a dream” (per the lyric), it’s an illusion, a deception and a cheap lie. What he has seen, witnessed and experienced is the top of the dunghill. It’s what Beelzebub has to offer. What the world has to offer is cheap trash in comparison to where I believe God wants to take him and wants him to experience. He wants to take him where no man has gone before. Just my twocents .

It's this post, that you made, that got my attention.

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Reply #222 posted 08/24/13 2:33pm

Tempest

Tremolina said:

Tempest said:

I don’t believe that Prince has seen the top YET. Big cars, women and fancy clothes are NOT the top. NOT EVEN CLOSE! In fact, it’s not even “just a dream” (per the lyric), it’s an illusion, a deception and a cheap lie. What he has seen, witnessed and experienced is the top of the dunghill. It’s what Beelzebub has to offer. What the world has to offer is cheap trash in comparison to where I believe God wants to take him and wants him to experience. He wants to take him where no man has gone before. Just my twocents .

It's this post, that you made, that got my attention.

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What about the post?

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Reply #223 posted 08/24/13 2:36pm

Tremolina

Tempest said:

Tremolina said:

It's this post, that you made, that got my attention.

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What about the post?

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That's my question to you

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Reply #224 posted 08/24/13 2:39pm

Tempest

I'm not sure what you mean. There are a lot of different components to the post. Which part do you want to discuss?

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[Edited 8/24/13 14:41pm]

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Reply #225 posted 08/24/13 2:44pm

Tremolina

Obviously, Prince has seen the illusionary "top" that "Beelzebub has to offer".

It's obvious, that's what he means with the lyric.

But you say: "What the world has to offer is cheap trash in comparison to where I believe God wants to take him and wants him to experience. He wants to take him where no man has gone before."

That's what got my attention.

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Reply #226 posted 08/24/13 2:46pm

Tempest

Are you asking me where I think God wants to take him?

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The cheap trash is pretty self explanatory.

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Reply #227 posted 08/24/13 2:48pm

Tremolina

Tempest said:

Are you asking me where I think God wants to take him?

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The cheap trash is pretty self explanatory.

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Maybe not so much for Prince?

But yes, that's what I am asking you; where do you think God wants to take him?

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Reply #228 posted 08/24/13 2:59pm

Tempest

If Prince doesn't know what I mean by cheap trash, he'll find out in due course. Promise. wink

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Regarding God's plan, it's not for me to reveal that at this time. It's something that I've had in my spirit (carrying around with me) for more than a decade. I will know in due course if what's been in my spirit is really the Lord's plan. However, it's for the Lord to reveal when He feels good and ready. God is never early, never late. He's always right on time. He's faithful. It's Prince's life & career and it's important that the revelation come from the Lord to Prince's heart. It's not my place to say.

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It's important that God prepare Prince for whatever He has for him. He will reveal His plan and purpose for Prince at the right time and to Prince himself.

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Reply #229 posted 08/24/13 3:03pm

Tremolina

Sure he knows what you mean, but have you live the 'princely' life he has?

I would guess..., not.

So who are you to say, and thus you refrain.

But it was you

who said:

"What the world has to offer is cheap trash in comparison to where I believe God wants to take him and wants him to experience. He wants to take him where no man has gone before"



where no man has gone before..

why stay silent on that?

[Edited 8/24/13 15:04pm]

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Reply #230 posted 08/24/13 3:05pm

Tremolina

dJJ said:


So, let's check the validity of the description of our caracters, based on our names.

Out of these 3 character descriptions, wich one would be based on my name?

And how did you come to decide which of these 3 are connected to my name, where as the other 2 are descriptions of a different name?

Who am I? What is my name?

1st Name, 2nd Name or 3rd Name?

(Trem, don't look it up, because you actually know my name. So, act as if you don't know my name, for sake of the game)



You know who you are.

And it's not hard to see that you need to take 2 steps first know who you are smile

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Reply #231 posted 08/24/13 3:09pm

Tempest

I promise you, if the Lord has His way, Prince will view his past life VERY differently than the way he views it right now. I won't say anymore on that.

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Please understand that the Lord has to be the One to reveal things to Prince. Not me.

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Why do you care what I say anyhow? Why does it matter to you? After all, this is Prince's life we're discussing here. Not our own lives. Right?

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Reply #232 posted 08/24/13 3:15pm

Stymie

Tremolina said:



Ain't no org as we know it, without you madam


Nor with the Prince we know.


Question:

Akhenaten was King, Pharaoh of Egypt
but Prince is just Prince and doesn't want to be King


then why does he still invoke the idea that he is and does?


I don't think he wants to be king but he indeed is happy to be a prince, second to a first. He may be more religious now but the weight his name carries seems to sneak in there and make him think a little highly of himself.
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Reply #233 posted 08/24/13 3:15pm

Tremolina

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[Edited 8/24/13 15:17pm]

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Reply #234 posted 08/24/13 3:16pm

Tempest

Stymie said:

Tremolina said:

Ain't no org as we know it, without you madam


Nor with the Prince we know.


Question:

Akhenaten was King, Pharaoh of Egypt
but Prince is just Prince and doesn't want to be King

then why does he still invoke the idea that he is and does?

I don't think he wants to be king but he indeed is happy to be a prince, second to a first. He may be more religious now but the weight his name carries seems to sneak in there and make him think a little highly of himself.

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You mean, a little thing called EGO? wink

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Reply #235 posted 08/24/13 3:20pm

Tremolina

Tempest said:

I promise you, if the Lord has His way, Prince will view his past life VERY differently than the way he views it right now. I won't say anymore on that.

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Please understand that the Lord has to be the One to reveal things to Prince. Not me.

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Why do you care what I say anyhow? Why does it matter to you? After all, this is Prince's life we're discussing here. Not our own lives. Right?

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Why do you care to speak to me anyhow?

Is there really any One else to "reveal things" like this than God?

But you already did that Tempest.

What do you mean"where no man has gone before"?

When you say such a thing, it must mean you Know What you are saying.

And so I or we can ask you what you mean it is, that you are saying...

And so we are not talking to Prince here.

Only about him and what he tells us with his music, lyrics and his public persona.

In fact, it would be a different org if we would be talking to him and not just about him.


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Reply #236 posted 08/24/13 3:22pm

Tempest

Tremolina said:

Is there really any One else to "reveal things" like this than God?

But you already did that Tempest.

What do you mean"where no man has gone before"?

When you say such a thing, itmust mean you know WHAT you aare saying.

And we can ask you what you mean it is that you are saying...

And we are not talking to Prince here.

Only about him.

In fact, it would be a different org if we would be talking to him and not just about him.

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Like I said before, I need to wait and see if what's been in my spirit (inside me) for a decade comes to pass. If it does, it was God all along. Sometimes God gives people intercessory burdens for things before they come to pass. It's like having a baby inside you that you carry around with you. I won't go into all that. Yes, I know what I'm saying but it's God's business to make it happen and see it through. If it was His plan all along, He'll make it happen.

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Prince will be the first to know the details. Not me.

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Reply #237 posted 08/24/13 3:23pm

Tremolina

Stymie said:

Tremolina said:

Ain't no org as we know it, without you madam


Nor with the Prince we know.


Question:

Akhenaten was King, Pharaoh of Egypt
but Prince is just Prince and doesn't want to be King

then why does he still invoke the idea that he is and does?

I don't think he wants to be king but he indeed is happy to be a prince, second to a first. He may be more religious now but the weight his name carries seems to sneak in there and make him think a little highly of himself.

Why don't you really say what you mean?

Obviously what you say here, is based on actual perception, by you, and others, of the reality of Prince.

Not neccessarily "true", but a perception that is yours truly

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Reply #238 posted 08/24/13 3:26pm

Tremolina

Tempest said:

Tremolina said:

Is there really any One else to "reveal things" like this than God?

But you already did that Tempest.

What do you mean"where no man has gone before"?

When you say such a thing, itmust mean you know WHAT you aare saying.

And we can ask you what you mean it is that you are saying...

And we are not talking to Prince here.

Only about him.

In fact, it would be a different org if we would be talking to him and not just about him.

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Like I said before, I need to wait and see if what's been in my spirit (inside me) for a decade comes to pass. If it does, it was God all along. Sometimes God gives people intercessory burdens for things before they come to pass. It's like having a baby inside you that you carry around with you. I won't go into all that. Yes, I know what I'm saying but it's God's business to make it happen and see it through. If it was His plan all along, He'll make it happen.

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Prince will be the first to know the details. Not me.

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See, I agree with you that we cannot "prophesise", on anyone, but you have already taken such a position and have already played that card.


There is also no need to approach this discussion as if we were talking to Prince.

As if is just an illusion. We are not talking to Prince.

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Reply #239 posted 08/24/13 3:30pm

Tempest

Yes, there is such a thing as prophecy believe it or not. It's supernatural. OK? Read 1 Corinthians 12 and you'll touch on the gifts of the spirit.

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What I have done here is allude to something I have in my heart. No more, no less. I have not given any specifics at all nor have I prophesied over Prince. If it's God, He'll make it happen. If it's not, it won't happen. It's that simple.

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Btw, I'm not approaching this discussion as if I'm speaking to Prince.

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