I know it's not just with me.

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I just wanted to acknowledge the new posts since we've been the main ones having a discussion on this thread (for the most part).

Ok, for starters (regarding first post) . . . .

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Yep, I'm familiar with Akhenaten changing his name from Amenhotep IV. I'm also very familiar with the songs "The One" and "Muse 2 the Pharoah." I was also aware of the OTAN / ATEN reference as well. I'll be sure to go read those wikis in your post as well when I have some more time.

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Sorry, I don't buy the whole reincarnation, past lives thing (nor do I know if Prince does either). However, you never know if in fact he could be related to Akhenaten (a descendant). All of us have ancestors and the further back you go, the greater your chances of being tied into some unusual family trees. Obviously, it's difficult (or impossible) to trace as far back as Akhenaten, however, the possibility is there that Prince could be a descendant (not a reincarnation) of Akhenaten.

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I have a relative who's done a lot of genealogy for our family. In particular, on my maternal side. It's amazing the things you find out about your family history once you get into it. It's been traced way, way, way back and I'm tied into several royal lines from several different countries. So, the potential is there for a lot of surprises when people get into their family trees.

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[Edited 8/14/13 13:38pm]

T. Nobody is asking you "to buy the whole reincarnation, past live thing". It's merely a thought raddahone raised and that Prince seems to have entertained for quite some time.

Even on the Rainbow Children.

I am curious how you think about THAT. TRC is his most religious album according to most, but what's up with that Pharaoh stuff?

I am also curious how you, as a minister, feel about the lyrics of 'The Sacrifice of Victor'.


And these lyrics (also from ):


All 7 and we'll watch them fall
They stand in the way of love and we will smoke them all
With an intellect, and a savoir-faire
No one else in the whole universe will ever compare
I am yours now and, you are mine and to-
-gether we'll love through all
Space and time, so don't cry...
One day all 7 will die

All 7 and we'll watch them fall
They stand in the way of love and we will smoke them all
With an intellect, and a savoir-faire
No one else in the whole universe will ever compare
I am yours now and, you are mine and to-
-gether we'll love through all
Space and time, so don't cry
One day all 7 will die

And I saw an angel come down unto me
In her hands she holds the very key
Words of compassion, words of peace
And in the distance, an army's marching feet (Hup 2 3 4 - Hup 2 3 4)
But behold... we will watch them fall

And we lay down on the sand of the sea
And before us animosity will stand and decree
That we speak not of love only blasphemy
And in the distance, 6 others will curse me
But that's alright (that's alright)
For I will watch them fall (1 2 3 4 5 6 7)

All 7 and we'll watch them fall
They stand in the way of love and we will smoke them all
With an intellect, and a savoir-faire
No one else in the whole universe will ever compare
I am yours now and, you are mine and to-
-gether we'll love through all
Space and time, so don't cry
One day all 7 will die

(Just how old?)

And we will see a plague and a river of blood
And every evil soul will surely die in spite of
Their 7 tears, but do not fear
For in the distance, 12 souls from now
You and me will still be here...
We will still be here

There will be a new city with the streets of gold
The young so educated they never grow old, and
There will be no death, for with every breath
A voice of many colors sings a song that's so... bold
Sing it while we watch them fall (fall...)

All 7 and we'll watch them fall
They stand in the way of love and we will smoke them all
With an intellect, and a savoir-faire
No one else in the whole universe will ever compare
I am yours now and, you are mine and to-
-gether we'll love through all
Space and time, so don't cry...
One day all 7 will die

(Just how old)
(Just how old)
(Just how old)

[Edited 8/14/13 13:49pm]

I have to run for a bit but I promise I'll be back.

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Just for clarification, I'm not a "minister" but I do minister to people as the Spirit leads me to do so. I hold no earthly or religious title. I'm just me (a servant) doing the Lord's work when He asks me to.

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More soon.

when you minister, you are one to me

Is Prince a minister? Sure seems like one as well!

Prince está muerto, Prince está muerto. Que viva para siempre, el poder de la nueva generacíon.

(spoken words by Mayte at the opening of the Gold Experience)

[Edited 8/14/13 14:00pm]

(1992) is Prince's 'Revelation'. It's the album that, like Revelation, symbolically expresses The Truth of who he really is, what his life has been and what his future will bring: 'The Book of Victor'. It's him foreseeing what's to Come. A Bitter War that he/we has/have to Fight, but also a Golden Future that he/we is/are Destined to have. By Sacrifice...


Come (1994) is Prince's 'Obituary'. It's his darkest album that, like an Obituary, symbolically expresses his spiritual death and the reasons why, but that also expresses Hope and Life for the Future: Come, the Spirit's calling, here is the reason why: if you had a chance to see the Future would you try? If you will, so will I.

The Gold Experience (1995) is Prince's way of symbolically expressing his true spirit: Active, energetic, dynamic, courageous and of a passionate nature; charismatic with a strong personality which confers him an ascendency over others, seemingly adaptable and accommodating, but nonetheless capable of gently but firmly asserting his rights and ideas, occasionally with a touch of cunning and opportunism or even by amoral means: like an iron fist in a velvet glove with a profound sense of justice, and can react violently to any kind of iniquity; feeling great compassion for his fellow earthlings which often incites him to get involved with groups and associations that have a social or political objective. A highly intuitive man who nevertheless prefers to present his more logical, rational side to the world -> The Gold Experience in full effect.

Emancipation (1996) is Prince's way of symbolically expressing his Freedom, his Emancipation. Not just from his recording contract, also spiritually, emotionally, mentally, physically, musically, financially, socially etc. For a time Prince really was like completely in Balance, completely Happy and Healthy. That he had truly found his Peace and his Precious Pearl.


But The Truth (1997) was different. Perhabs one of his most heartfelt and honest albums ever, The Truth symbolically expresses how The Dawn Comes to You, when you are at your Lowest and Darkest Point. Nuff said.




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[Edited 8/14/13 16:37pm]

Good morning ladies and gentlemen, boys and motherfucking girls

This is your captain with no name speaking and I am here to rock your world

I think the description is apt, all except this little, teeny, weeny part.

Tremolina said:

Seemingly adaptable and accommodating

Tempest said:

IMHO, there's nothing wrong with tiring of relations and moving on if the relationships aren't worth hanging onto in the first place. There's absolutely no virture in hanging onto people just for the sake of hanging onto them. Many people tend to hang onto lifeless relations (sometimes for their entire lives) just out of codependency or a myriad of other dysfunctional reasons. I would venture to guess that there are more people that hang on to lifeless / loveless relations out of bondage than can easily let go of them. There's no point in continuing to try and force a square peg into a round hole over and over again. Life's too short.

[Edited 8/1/13 7:15am]

He strikes me as a person with a short attention span.

Tremolina said:

Talking Point:


Any long time, die hard Prince fan, knows Prince has pretty much all these traits.

In fact, it describes his character and personality pretty good.

I agree wholeheartedly with this.

Stymie said:

I think the description is apt, all except this little, teeny, weeny part.

Tremolina said:

Seemingly adaptable and accommodating

Hello miss D

No, it is actually correct. Key word is "seemingly".

Stymie said:

Tremolina said:

Talking Point:


Any long time, die hard Prince fan, knows Prince has pretty much all these traits.

In fact, it describes his character and personality pretty good.

I agree wholeheartedly with this.

naahh...you don't!

Tremolina said:

when you minister, you are one to me

Is Prince a minister? Sure seems like one as well!

Prince está muerto, Prince está muerto. Que viva para siempre, el poder de la nueva generacíon.

(spoken words by Mayte at the opening of the Gold Experience)

[Edited 8/14/13 14:00pm]

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I'm happy to hear that I minister to you.

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Regarding Prince being a minister, I really can't say because I've had very little face to face contact with him. However, I know in my spirit that God has wonderful things in store for him. We will see where God decides to take him. I'm excited about his future.

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Tremolina said:

Stymie said:

I think the description is apt, all except this little, teeny, weeny part.

Hello miss D

No, it is actually correct. Key word is "seemingly".

"Seemingly" would give an appearance of being accomodating and adaptivity. He appears to be neither, at least in my humble opinion.

Tremolina said:

Stymie said:

I agree wholeheartedly with this.

naahh...you don't!

Yeah, I actually do!! Shocking, isn't it?

I'm happy to hear that I minister to you.

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Regarding Prince being a minister, I really can't say because I've had very little face to face contact with him. However, I know in my spirit that God has wonderful things in store for him. We will see where God decides to take him. I'm excited about his future.

Ah, but being one to me, isn't the same as doing it to me

I respect your choice to opt for "I don't know Prince personally, so I can't say".

But in truth, it's not like that...

If you would know Prince personally, it would be inappropiate to share your personal knowledge of him, without his consent.

But if you don't, as you say you do, it would not be inappropiate to do so. Not in the least, when you are speaking your mind from the spirit.

You 'know', perhabs not personally, but on a higher level.

Or for what other reason would you take interest in discussing this with me?

(not judging or assuming here, simply wondering...)

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[Edited 8/14/13 15:33pm]

Stymie said:

Tremolina said:

naahh...you don't!

Yeah, I actually do!! Shocking, isn't it?

Breathtakingly shocking...

Shockadelica, the girl must be a witch!

Stymie said:

Tremolina said:

Hello miss D

No, it is actually correct. Key word is "seemingly".

"Seemingly" would give an appearance of being accomodating and adaptivity. He appears to be neither, at least in my humble opinion.

But of course he does. Look at how many times he "gives away" his music...?

But always only on HIS terms.

Tremolina said:

T. Nobody is asking you "to buy the whole reincarnation, past live thing". It's merely a thought raddahone raised and that Prince seems to have entertained for quite some time.

Even on the Rainbow Children.

I am curious how you think about THAT. TRC is his most religious album according to most, but what's up with that Pharaoh stuff?

I am also curious how you, as a minister, feel about the lyrics of 'The Sacrifice of Victor'.


And these lyrics (also from ):


All 7 and we'll watch them fall
They stand in the way of love and we will smoke them all
With an intellect, and a savoir-faire
No one else in the whole universe will ever compare
I am yours now and, you are mine and to-
-gether we'll love through all
Space and time, so don't cry...
One day all 7 will die

All 7 and we'll watch them fall
They stand in the way of love and we will smoke them all
With an intellect, and a savoir-faire
No one else in the whole universe will ever compare
I am yours now and, you are mine and to-
-gether we'll love through all
Space and time, so don't cry
One day all 7 will die

And I saw an angel come down unto me
In her hands she holds the very key
Words of compassion, words of peace
And in the distance, an army's marching feet (Hup 2 3 4 - Hup 2 3 4)
But behold... we will watch them fall

And we lay down on the sand of the sea
And before us animosity will stand and decree
That we speak not of love only blasphemy
And in the distance, 6 others will curse me
But that's alright (that's alright)
For I will watch them fall (1 2 3 4 5 6 7)

All 7 and we'll watch them fall
They stand in the way of love and we will smoke them all
With an intellect, and a savoir-faire
No one else in the whole universe will ever compare
I am yours now and, you are mine and to-
-gether we'll love through all
Space and time, so don't cry
One day all 7 will die

(Just how old?)

And we will see a plague and a river of blood
And every evil soul will surely die in spite of
Their 7 tears, but do not fear
For in the distance, 12 souls from now
You and me will still be here...
We will still be here

There will be a new city with the streets of gold
The young so educated they never grow old, and
There will be no death, for with every breath
A voice of many colors sings a song that's so... bold
Sing it while we watch them fall (fall...)

All 7 and we'll watch them fall
They stand in the way of love and we will smoke them all
With an intellect, and a savoir-faire
No one else in the whole universe will ever compare
I am yours now and, you are mine and to-
-gether we'll love through all
Space and time, so don't cry...
One day all 7 will die

(Just how old)
(Just how old)
(Just how old)

[Edited 8/14/13 13:49pm]

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OK. I don't have a lot of time but I'll share what I can for now regarding my thoughts on this post.

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I don't actually know FOR SURE where Prince gets his inspiration from. I know there has been a lot talk and speculation in articles, books etc. but I'd really like to hear it from him personally. Where does he draw it from? Where do the lyrics come from? At face value, I would say the song 7 is prophetic in nature. However, what is the source of the inspiration? It's imperative to know the source first before making a real assessment about the song itself, it's meaning etc. I believe that Prince has a prophetic gift but one that will change and evolve as time goes on to serve God's purposes. I don't want to say too much about that right now.

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I feel that a lot of things will be revealed in it's proper time. God is the revealer of secrets. I'm sure that He will reveal the Pharaoh stuff as well. He's faithful.

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Where does he draw it from? Where do the lyrics come from?

How about simply the Spirit?

(Or not so simply?)

Tremolina said:

I'm happy to hear that I minister to you.

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Regarding Prince being a minister, I really can't say because I've had very little face to face contact with him. However, I know in my spirit that God has wonderful things in store for him. We will see where God decides to take him. I'm excited about his future.

Ah, but being one to me, isn't the same as doing it to me

I respect your choice to opt for "I don't know Prince personally, so I can't say".

But in truth, it's not like that...

If you would know Prince personally, it would be inappropiate to share your personal knowledge of him, without his consent.

But if you don't, as you say you do, it would not be inappropiate to do so. Not in the least, when you are speaking your mind from the spirit.

You 'know', perhabs not personally, but on a higher level.

Or for what other reason would you take interest in discussing this with me?

(not judging or assuming here, simply wondering...)

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[Edited 8/14/13 15:33pm]

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Maybe you can elaborate on what you see as the difference between being one to you & doing it to you.

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To be honest, even if I knew Prince personally, I wouldn't share anything about him on a forum. I've proven myself to be trustworthy many times. I won't say anymore about that.

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Are you deliberately evading my points now?

I said, if you would know him personally, THEN it would be inappropiate to share that personal knowledge without his consent.

Not the other way around. Not when it is based on the music and the lyrics he shared himself.

And I am sure you can figure out the difference between being a minister to me and actually ministering to me. You are an intelligent lady.

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[Edited 8/14/13 15:56pm]

I've read this whole thread and need to let it simmer before I add any more thoughts.

I didn't want to mention to you, Tremolina, that I do/did see Prince as ministering to people now that you mention it. I didn't before and I don't know why because it is so obvious.

When I considered myself a "believer" Prince's mentions of God and Jesus inhis songs made me curious, led to read and comforted me on some dark days.

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didn't you ever feel that his music speaks to you 'personally'?

I am sure you did.

No, I'm not evading anything. Honest.

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Would you like to discuss these matters in private?

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Actually, I'm having a difficult time with the difference between being a minister to you and actually ministering to you. The verb is "to minister" and in each case, that's what's being done. Sorry if I'm missing something. It could be because it's nearing the end of the day and I'm pooped.

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Please elaborate if you feel so inclined.

Would you lke to discussu these private matters on a person we don't know privately, nor in person, in a private setting or in person?

Actually, to be brutally honest with you: No, I would not! lol

I would rather just discuss it here, and base our discussions on what Prince himself has shared with us on himself, personally/privately, through his music...


Cool no?

Tremolina said:

^

didn't you ever feel that his music speaks to you 'personally'?

I am sure you did.

Of course! I had often felt like someone knew what I was going through.

Tremolina said:

Would you lke to discussu these private matters on a person we don't know privately, nor in person, in a private setting or in person?

Actually, to be brutally honest with you: No, I would not! lol

I would rather just discuss it here, and base our discussions on what Prince himself has shared with us on himself, personally/privately, through his music...


Cool no?

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I didn't mean that we would discuss anything personal about Prince in private. It's just easier to discuss things in emails and such than on a forum. That's all. Sorry to upset you.

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Peace.

[Edited 8/14/13 16:03pm]

Tempest said:

Tremolina said:

Would you lke to discussu these private matters on a person we don't know privately, nor in person, in a private setting or in person?

Actually, to be brutally honest with you: No, I would not! lol

I would rather just discuss it here, and base our discussions on what Prince himself has shared with us on himself, personally/privately, through his music...


Cool no?

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I didn't mean that we would discuss anything personal about Prince in private. It's just easier to discuss things in emails and such than on a forum. That's all. Sorry to upset you.

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Peace.

[Edited 8/14/13 16:03pm]

Upset, over what?

Stymie said:

Tremolina said:

^

didn't you ever feel that his music speaks to you 'personally'?

I am sure you did.

Of course! I had often felt like someone knew what I was going through.

Isn't that a 'miracle'?