I think he already accepted that he is "second to king" on

It's obvious.

He says he doesn't weant to be king on my name is Prince and on the Sacrifice of Victor he announces his name change and subsequent war, he already tells us that he is going to "sacrifice Prince".

But his awareness of who he is and where he is going, is also on other songs of the album.

The Continental, Sexy Mf, 7, and God created Woman...

On Arrogance he asks:

Why are you so arrogant?
(There he is)
(There he is)
(There he is)

What makes a man wanna rule the world?
(A double A double arrogance)
(You got it)
Make him man enough to say he's fifty-fifty girl
(A double A double arrogance)
(You got it)
What makes a man wanna curse and swear?
(A double A double arrogance)
(You got it)
Then blame it on heaven 'cuz he's already there

Pimprag, tootsie pop and a cane

What makes a man wanna play guitar?
(A double A double arrogance)
(You got it)
Same thing that makes him wanna be a star
(A double A double arrogance)
(You got it)
What makes him wanna see his name in lights?
(A double A double arrogance)
(You got it)
That's the same thing that made Eve take the first bite

Pimprag, tootsie pop and a cane

Like a flame she came and I was no longer cold
That's a little shady, for this lady was only sixteen years old

There you have it: Adam and Eve.

Temptation.

Power and Fame. Idolatry and Vanity.

Kingship and Arrogance

Can make you so Cold.


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Ever since Adam and Eve are a recurring theme in Prince's ouvre.

Tremolina said:

Prince can do whatever he likes with his business (Warner or no Warner). His deal. I have no comment in that regard.

Of course he can do whatever he likes, he is FREE!

But the point is this: what was the 1st thing Prince did as soon as he gained total freedom (not just from his WARner record deal, also from his publishing deal)?

He released a controversial religious and political album that wouldn't stand a chance at any airplay and in fact never got any airplay, and thus no company but Redline entertainment would dare to take financial risks with. TRC is one of his worst selling albums.

Despite the terrific music and musicianship on it.

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I really like TRC.

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That being said, I don't consider it a religious album. Yes, the album is peppered with religious implications, themes & tones but it's not spiritual to me the way you may be thinking "religious". To the secular music industry, yes, it probably is. But, to my way of thinking, no, it wasn't. I'm also aware that Prince has biblical themes, Scriptures etc. interwoven into his music from the very beginning. I'm very aware of that. However, I don't consider his music particulary religious or spiritual in nature. I would never categorize it or describe it in that manner.

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I really don't want to go into that right now. That's just my opinion and it's complicated to explain my position. My opinion doesn't matter anyhow.

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That was a looooong read.

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Tempest, have you been on the org before? Or did you just find it, and signed up?


Either way, welcome.

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Tremolina, I love this thread. And fans have listened to Prince his music and witnessed a lot his behavior, so I agree, of course fans infere character traits of that.

Orgers never lack opinions about Prince his music, girlfriends, hair, etcetera. So, yes, also about some personality traits and how he grows trough different life phases.


So, it also surprises me that nobody jumps this subject. What happened? Orgers lost their judgemental fierceness?

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BTW, attributing character traits to a name, seems to be as valid as the weekly horoscope.

http://www.psmag.com/cult...ble-25533/

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People always have an impression of a character. Also here on the org.

I really like some orger, solely based on their posts on this forum.


So, let's check the validity of the description of our caracters, based on our names.

Out of these 3 character descriptions, wich one would be based on my name?

And how did you come to decide which of these 3 are connected to my name, where as the other 2 are descriptions of a different name?

Who am I? What is my name?

1st Name, 2nd Name or 3rd Name?

(Trem, don't look it up, because you actually know my name. So, act as if you don't know my name, for sake of the game)

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1st Name:

xxx is a woman who often seems to be quite out of reach and this may be due to her natural reserve and aloof manner. In any case, xxxx doesn´t leave a neutral impression on those she meets and her distant and apparently disdainful demeanour is certainly a factor in making her appear enigmatic. Introspective and very introverted, xxxx tends to retreat into her ivory tower if life disappoints her, daydreams often bringing her the comfort that reality is unable to provide. Indeed, she is an inspired, sensitive and emotional soul who isn´t cut out for struggle or hardship and is allergic to stress. Rather possessive and overbearing, xxx is like the ant in the well-known fable: quite fond of material wealth and reluctant to lend or share her assets. She is something of an �outsider�, perhaps because she is fiercely independent and stands out through her originality (be it an intellectual distinction or in the way she dresses), or because she isolates herself from others throgh her unceremonious and curt attitude. So yes, xxx is a particularly disconcerting and elusive female: communication can often be challenging for her, so she prefers to remain taciturn, half hoping that others will read her mind, often followed by disappointment when this results in her feeling misunderstood. However deep down, she is actually extremely determined and strong-willed! It is true that she can occasionally give in to laziness, putting off until tomorrow that which she could easily do today... But with the karmic 4, all extremes are possible, and xxx is just as likely to invest herself in her work (notably if she was born in April or on the 4th, 13th, 22nd or 31st, or if she has a life Path Number of 4) as to choose an easier life focusing on her home, family and personal relationships. As a child, it is necessary to provide constant motivation and encouragement in order to avoid her becoming withdrawn. Her clever and practical mind would benefit from manual or esthetic activities such as pottery, drawing or sewing, because xxx tends to be a perfectionist who is meticulous in all that she does.

What does she like?
xxx is a very sentimental creature who dreams of a cosy home and a heart that will keep her warm for a lifetime, and her priorities in life are to love and to be loved in return. Her natural inclination is to beauty and harmony, which is why she appreciates beautiful objects, elegant clothes and comfort. Gentlemen, be forewarned that xxx is likely to have difficulty choosing a partner (karmic 6) and when she does, she may still find plenty of reasons to be unsatisfied. It´s actually quite straightforward: she simply expects her Prince Charming to be handsome, wealthy, intelligent, courteous, conciliatory and in possession of a certain gift for psychology...

What does she do?

When it comes to professional commitment, xxx could be hesitant and allow herself to be influenced by her family environment (or she may actually step into the professional shoes of one of her parents). However, if she is able to choose she could be tempted by the artistic or esthetic domains (decoration, painting, drawing, hairdressing and floral art), where precision or thoroughness are prerequisite; occupations connected with the earth, nature or animals, or those of an avant-garde nature, most likely related to fashion or possibly the latest technology (information technology...), otherwise, she could choose an activity concerned with the care and support of others that would enable her to make the most of her psychological talents.

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2 Name:

Who is she?

Xxxx is an emotional, sensitive and nervous woman who seeks the company of others, first and foremost. She is both idealistic and realistic, although it is usually the latter aspect that is expressed initially. Nonetheless, she has a very fertile imagination, which contributes in large part to address the dissatisfaction that she feels in her everyday life. But fortunately for her, xxxx has the organization skills necessary to achieve her goals and put her interests into practice. She is fascinated by music, poetry, humanity and the irrational, and is inclined to be a dreamer although she can also be constructive and materialistic. The result of these antagonistic tendencies can be rather disconcerting: on the outside she can often appear light-hearted and happy-go-lucky, superficial, impulsive, and she doesn´t mince her words... However this isn´t her real nature, and she can be aloof and abrupt just when you least expect it. She loathes her personal space being invaded and is extremely fond of her independence. Likewise, she is just as perplexing where order is concerned. One day she could be ever so strict in her principles: correct, organized, modest and thrifty (especially if she was born on the 4th, 13th, 22nd, 31st, or if her life Path Number is 4). Then, in a sudden change of attitude, in flagrant contradiction with her own values, she can become extravagant, disorderly and even sloppy, especially if she was born on the 5th, 14th, 23rd of the month, or if her life Path Number is 5)... If she happens to succumb to temptation, she will promise herself never to do it again and can be quite hard on herself. She is generally lively and self-willed; although her weakest link is probably her sensual and emotional nature. She is very sensitive to the family environment and easily shaken by emotional disappointment, in which case she is likely to become withdrawn, blocking the world out and fleeing reality. As a child, she shouldn´t be much of a problem to her parents as long as the atmosphere at home is harmonious, because she lives and develops according to the amount of love she receives. If her family doesn´t provide her with the affection and reassurance that she needs, she could completely lose interest in her schooling and could seek a substitute for her affection by rushing headlong into the arms of the first man who shows an interest in her, possibly at a relatively tender age. Otherwise, she could choose to escape through daydreams, blissfully ignoring her responsibilities. It would be desirable for her to engage in an artistic activity, as well as group activities in which she could share and exchange.

What does she like?
She appreciates security and stability, and although she is often tempted by adventure, travel and pleasures of all kinds, she will be sure to take every possible precaution. She enjoys nature and all that is natural, animals and the countryside. If she can live in harmony with the high vibrations that her master number offers, xxx could envisage significant accomplishments in the material realm, aided by her potential for hard work and her impressive organizational talents, her rich imagination and her intuition. From a romantic point of view, she is quite ambivalent: romantic, sensual, idealistic, down to earth and a little scared of love. She could be accused of modesty, reserve and even frostiness, however xxxx is a highly sensitive and emotional young lady who doesn´t always like to admit it.

What does she do?

Heleen doesn´t like to be inactive, and is likely to seek a career that she will enjoy and in which she will be able to fully invest herself, bringing some meaning to her life... She could therefore be especially attracted to occupations in conjunction with the community, of a social, medical or paramedical nature, in connection with the public, broadcasting or sales; in connection with nature, animals, the land or travel, as well as those requiring organization, method, rigor and precision...

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3rd Name:

Who are they?

Bright, bold and rather authoritarian as well as quick tempered, these two certainly aren´t characterized by their discipline and flexibility... xxxx and xxxx tend to be high handed and are often brittle, haughty and proud. Extremely confident, they usually have grandiose ambitions - especially since they are sensitive to external signs of wealth. Such tendencies coupled with a determination to succeed, lead them to constantly seek bigger, better and more. They may have difficulty sitting still or doing nothing for any length of time and are usually active and dynamic. And yet the results do not always live up to their efforts, indeed their lives can be quite disorganized and their minds just as messy. These very inquisitive women want to know almost everything, however they can easily flit from one subject to another, not necessarily get to the bottom of things. They like change and are disposed to frequent soul searching, not without certain risks. Even so, this is much preferable to a life of routine and monotony, of which they would quickly tire. They cherish their freedom and are die-hard feminists: women´s liberation is much more than just an idea! At the same time they possess a certain charm and an insatiable zest for life. They are pleasant and likeable, and are partisans of the saying “Enjoy yourself, it is later than you thinkrdquo;.... As children, xxx and xxxx need stable reference points and a relatively strict upbringing, because they tend to impose their views and desires on others through their capricious behavior, jealousy and possessiveness. It would be wise to impart the value of sharing very early on in life. They would equally benefit from developing their social skills so as to avoid becoming too self-centered. Not particularly conciliatory, they are critical thinking and analytical whilst themselves remaining extremely hypersensitive.

What do they like?
xxx likes to be desired and admired, crave attention and wish to charm and impress those around them. For these reasons they are very conscious of their physical appearance and tend to dress carefully and tastefully, often choosing expensive jewelry. They are likely to choose a partner according to his social status and perhaps even his fortune. And yet, more than anything else all they really want is a home and a family, and a man to snuggle up to... They would appreciate a cozy and comfortable interior where they could play out the role of the perfect housewife and entertainer that they would like to be recognized as being. Whatever their life situation, they remain open to adventure, travel and change.

What do they do?

They are likely to be attracted to occupations in connection with numbers and finance, especially if they were born on the 8th, 17th, 26th, or if their life Path Number is 8 (accounting, banking, management, business and commerce), occupations where mobility is necessary, especially if they were born on the 5th, 14th, 23rd, or if theirlife Path Number is 5, the medical or paramedical professions, especially if they were born on the 6th, 15th, 24th, or have a life Path Number of 6, the creative professions or in connection with the field of esthetics (architecture, sculpture, decoration, dressmaking, hairdressing...).

I would love to guess the right name with orgers.

So, orgers, please, post the character of 3 different names, 1 being your real name and the other 2 chosen names are randomly chosen.

My impression of some of Prince his character traits

Disclaimer:

I don't know Prince. I'm just stating my own interpretation, based on the just or unjust information that I have learned troughout the years.

Tremolina said:

LadyZsaZsa said:

I'm talking about the good ones.

^ Ladies, that's all nice, but not what this thread is about.


Let's make a checklist and see if we can discuss that shall we? ...

• charismatic - yes

• strong personality - yes and no

• ascendency over others - yes

• active - yes

• energetic - yes

• dynamic - yes

• courageous - yes

• passionate nature - yes

• seemingly adaptable and accommodating -

  Publicly no.

  But I also think he wants to see his inner circle to be happy. And I think he tends to please them, as a mean to make them happy. However, he interprets for them, what makes them happy, and he could be wrong. Or he will get irritated, because he's not being himself, but pleasing others. And he'll project that irritation on them. So, allthough his intention is to make the other person happy, in the end, the relationship might get harmed by irritations back and forth.
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• but capable of gently but firmly asserting his rights and ideas

  
  

  -No. Just like every other human being, he has to learn to protect his boundaries by trial and error. So, sometimes being too fierce, other times being to submissive.

• occasionally with a touch of cunning and opportunism - yes.

• or even by amoral means: like an iron fist in a velvet glove... - yes

• many plans and plenty of great ideas -

  yes and no. A lot of ideas, so, therefore a lot of great ones and a lot of bad ones.

• but needs to learn to put them into practice - Yes

  He seems to be learning that better than ever.

• very highly strung - Yes

• action makes a perfect outlet for this excess energy - Yes

• when highly tensed more of an observer than a true participant - No idea

• stimulated and spurred on by challenges and difficulties, as a general rule.

  
  

  - No. Also very hurt, paralyzed and set back by difficulties. Just like all of us.

• profound sense of justice -

  In his younger years yes, but it seems that he is getting more humble nowadays. Again, just like most people.

• can react violently to any kind of iniquity -

  Yes. See prior answer.

• feels great compassion for fellow earthlings -

  Not naturally his character. If so, it's somethin he adapted and taught himself.

• involved with groups and associations that have a social or political objective -

  No. My bet is, that in essence, he's a loner. More comfortable in his own world than in a group.

• highly intuitive - Yes

• prefers to present his more logical, rational side to the world... - No

• could alternate between total possessiveness and a certain altruism

  - No. I don't associate altruism with Prince. Even his religeous beliefs might be appealing because of the promise of a reward when believing in Jezus and God.

  Btw, I even doubt that altruism can exist.

• as a child, motivated, determined and a star pupil - Yes

• active, industrious nature - Yes

• a real perfectionist - Yes. More irrational than real, would be my guess

• even quite obsessive in one particular area -

  obsessive or passionate?

• completely undisciplined in another -

  No. I have always been very jalous of his extreme disciplined work ethic!

• disconcerting tendency to alternate between over-activity and apathy -

  No. I can't imagine Prince in apathy. He'll be in his head, but not apathic.

• attached to family
  

  No. No save attachment.

• aspires peace even though he himself occasionally declares war! -

  Who doesn't?

• often has an acute sense of esthetics -

  Yes and no. Sometimes his taste is on the verge of kitch

• interest in art or beautiful objects -

  I don't know. Never read that he was interested in art made by other people.

• seeks the comfort of a cosy nest that he can call home -

  No. He's touring a lot. That's not nesting.

• in matters of the heart, often a difficult case in search of perfection - Yes

• happiness could pass him by without him recognizing it -

  He seems happy to me.

• intransigent nature - I hope so.

• bossy - Yes and no. He's also seems to have a serving side to him.

• pernickety with noble principles - I think he wants to be noble.

• not always eays to live with - Well, who is?

• tends to quickly tire of relations - I would speculate that it's more an attachment thing. Just like most of us.

• keen to continue his quest for that rare pearl -- He's got a necklace by now. I don't think anybody really knows his love life. Only he and his significant other.

I think it's interesting to see how different people have different impressions of his character.

And that phenomenon is exactly what I have against psychological testing. The interpretation is always subjectiver. Judgement is in the eye of the beholder.

Tempest said:

I don’t believe that Prince has seen the top YET. Big cars, women and fancy clothes are NOT the top. NOT EVEN CLOSE! In fact, it’s not even “just a dream” (per the lyric), it’s an illusion, a deception and a cheap lie. What he has seen, witnessed and experienced is the top of the dunghill. It’s what Beelzebub has to offer. What the world has to offer is cheap trash in comparison to where I believe God wants to take him and wants him to experience. He wants to take him where no man has gone before. Just my .

Thank God he's done with that cheap phase!

Allthough it probably was expensive

Tempest said:

Yes, it matters because your question was if Resurrection = Live on. The answer is no. From a Scriptural perspective, LIFE is found in the Lord. Not apart from Him. It's the difference between looking at something from a Scriptural perspective or a worldly one. Believe me, the 2nd resurrection will not be "returning to life" or "revival" at all. It will be judgement and damnation. That is not life.

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From which scripture?

I mean, there are many, aren't there?

Tempest said:

Here's another good read:

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https://bible.org/seriesp...urrections

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Remember, if you are separated from God (as the damned will be) there is no "life." So even though they are resurrected for judgement (not in glorified spiritual bodies but their physical bodies) they will not obtain "life". Scriptural "Life" = being in God's presence (eternal life). So the unrighteous who will be resurrected (at the 2nd resurrection), judged and separated from God forever, means, they do not "live on" or have Scriptural "life". Even if they "exist" they do not "live". Yeshua is the way, the truth and the life. Therefore, there is no life apart from being one with Him and God. In other words, a person can "exist" in the flesh and not have Scriptural or eternal "life".

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I've never read any scripture, so my apologies in advance for my ignorance.

However, "life" is also the most interesting (imo) scientific subject. Because when is an entity alive? Is it awareness, being conscientious of oneself?

What does "life" mean in your book?

Tempest said:

Tremolina said:

I can assure you that if Prince would have still been under contract with Warner Chappel music for his publishing rights (music and lyrics) they would not have approved of this album.

Fact is also that Prince was already doing Bible studies with Larry Graham since 97/98.

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OK. Prince can do whatever he likes with his business (Warner or no Warner). His deal. I have no comment in that regard.

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I'm happy that Prince began doing some Bible study. I just wish that he'd expand his horizons beyond Larry Graham. Larry Graham is NOT the be all and end all. I could say more but I won't.

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Regarding Bible study, I've been doing Bible study since I was a small child so I can relate to a hunger for the Word. I loved the Bible even when I was very, very small and would ride my bike up to the local Bible store for hours reading and admiring all the beautiful books and Bible studies. I used to save up my allowance money to be able to purchase studies that I could take home and do in the privacy of my bedroom. I lived in an extremely chaotic and dysfunctional home and got absolutely no spiritual guidance from anyone. My home was spiritually very, very dark. So, it was me and the Lord. I so appreciate His grace and power working in my life from a wee tot. He's my everything.

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I'll be back later regarding your other post.

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Peace.

Lovely story about how you longed for spiritual support, when you had nobody to trust and could not savely connect or love somebody. Or am I reading your lines wrong?
And I love your exceptionnel book greed. I'm amazed that you read scriptures at such a young age. I mean, I also found refuge in books, hiding in my room, however, I did not understand any biblical scripture. Never read one. I just read any book I could lay my hand on

Bible was not one of them.

dJJ said:

Tempest said:

I don’t believe that Prince has seen the top YET. Big cars, women and fancy clothes are NOT the top. NOT EVEN CLOSE! In fact, it’s not even “just a dream” (per the lyric), it’s an illusion, a deception and a cheap lie. What he has seen, witnessed and experienced is the top of the dunghill. It’s what Beelzebub has to offer. What the world has to offer is cheap trash in comparison to where I believe God wants to take him and wants him to experience. He wants to take him where no man has gone before. Just my .

Thank God he's done with that cheap phase!

Allthough it probably was expensive

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Hopefully, he's done with it. Fingers crossed.

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It's not only expensive, it's spiritually draining as well.

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dJJ said:

Tempest said:

Yes, it matters because your question was if Resurrection = Live on. The answer is no. From a Scriptural perspective, LIFE is found in the Lord. Not apart from Him. It's the difference between looking at something from a Scriptural perspective or a worldly one. Believe me, the 2nd resurrection will not be "returning to life" or "revival" at all. It will be judgement and damnation. That is not life.

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From which scripture?

I mean, there are many, aren't there?

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I apologize that I don't have time right now to look up a lot of Scriptures however I can give you one off the top of my head that clearly states that resurrection does not equal life (or LIVE ON).

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John 11:25,26

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Jesus claims to be the resurrection AND the life. Obviously, they are not the same or He would be making a redundant statement (AND being the conjunction). Resurrection is a lifting, resurrecting, or quickening from the grave (an instantaneous and short lived action verb) and the other is eternal (LIFE).

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If you'd like more Scriptures regarding the 2nd resurrection, I'll repost this link so you can take a look. There are several Scriptures within.

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http://www.cupofwrath.com...gment.php

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I hope that helps a bit.

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dJJ said:

Tempest said:

Here's another good read:

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https://bible.org/seriesp...urrections

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Remember, if you are separated from God (as the damned will be) there is no "life." So even though they are resurrected for judgement (not in glorified spiritual bodies but their physical bodies) they will not obtain "life". Scriptural "Life" = being in God's presence (eternal life). So the unrighteous who will be resurrected (at the 2nd resurrection), judged and separated from God forever, means, they do not "live on" or have Scriptural "life". Even if they "exist" they do not "live". Yeshua is the way, the truth and the life. Therefore, there is no life apart from being one with Him and God. In other words, a person can "exist" in the flesh and not have Scriptural or eternal "life".

[Edited 8/9/13 12:22pm]

I've never read any scripture, so my apologies in advance for my ignorance.

However, "life" is also the most interesting (imo) scientific subject. Because when is an entity alive? Is it awareness, being conscientious of oneself?

What does "life" mean in your book?

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This could be a long discussion.

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Let me say for now that, in most cases, in the Bible, LIFE is usually in the context of eternal LIFE or the God kind of life. Meaning, it's not just "existing" or walking the planet, it's supernatural, God breathed, wholeness, soundness, etc. It refers to both a higher kind of life (connection with God) and also eternal in the sense that believers will obtain life (the forever kind) in the afterlife. However, there is also "life" in general as well. For instance when God created and brought forth life on the earth.

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I believe that life (in the earthly sense of existence) starts at conception. That's my personal view. I don't believe that one has to be conscious of oneself to be considered a "living being".

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dJJ said:

Tempest said:

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OK. Prince can do whatever he likes with his business (Warner or no Warner). His deal. I have no comment in that regard.

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I'm happy that Prince began doing some Bible study. I just wish that he'd expand his horizons beyond Larry Graham. Larry Graham is NOT the be all and end all. I could say more but I won't.

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Regarding Bible study, I've been doing Bible study since I was a small child so I can relate to a hunger for the Word. I loved the Bible even when I was very, very small and would ride my bike up to the local Bible store for hours reading and admiring all the beautiful books and Bible studies. I used to save up my allowance money to be able to purchase studies that I could take home and do in the privacy of my bedroom. I lived in an extremely chaotic and dysfunctional home and got absolutely no spiritual guidance from anyone. My home was spiritually very, very dark. So, it was me and the Lord. I so appreciate His grace and power working in my life from a wee tot. He's my everything.

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I'll be back later regarding your other post.

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Peace.

Lovely story about how you longed for spiritual support, when you had nobody to trust and could not savely connect or love somebody. Or am I reading your lines wrong?
And I love your exceptionnel book greed. I'm amazed that you read scriptures at such a young age. I mean, I also found refuge in books, hiding in my room, however, I did not understand any biblical scripture. Never read one. I just read any book I could lay my hand on

Bible was not one of them.

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If you haven't ventured in the Scriptures, you're missing out. Be sure to do so.

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Well, to be honest, this past year has been the most difficult year of my entire life coming to grips with the reality of so many things I experienced growing up (to include emotional & sexual abuse) and also things I've dealt with for many years (especially with my mother). It's not that I haven't seen or dealt with the reality of it before, it's just that new things have come to light. So many new things have surfaced since my mother's death last year that are shocking to the core. I won't go into all that but let's just say it's been extremely painful. The level of betrayal, rejection and evil that I've experienced from my mother, sister, father & crazy step father (from the past) is over the top.

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I've been told by many that I need to write a book about my life. I always just smile back at them and tell them, I'd have to label it fiction cuz there's no one on the planet that would believe the things that have happened in my lifetime. Honestly, Hollywood could never come up with anything as crazy as my life.

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Thank goodness, God is good and always faithful. I can honestly say, without him, I wouldn't be alive today. I would have died from stress or a broken heart.

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raddahone said:

Hi, i brought up Akenaten because there were messages in "The One" video stating
that Prince was Akhenaten in a previous life, and Mayte was Nefertiti. This brought me to do some re-search. Mayte was not Nefertiti but she was one of Akenaten's minor wives. Nerfititi was and is a complex being. Akenaten was a beautiful Pharoh and a high incarnation who believed with full being that All is One. This can't be disputed but every1 of the 1 needs to follow the path that they can apply their Devotion to get fully emerged into God. Prince was serious about this, I believe. If we look at lives sequentially, or reflect, then Akenaten would be a prior life.

Some Pharohs and Kings stood in their Honor for God's Honor. There are ones of course that wanted power only like Queen Hatchepsut's son who, because of this son, had both the Queen and her daughter murdered. All for the power or rule and not the Rule to be in love, be love, and serve one's kingdom which really is only given by God as a temporary possession.

That's funny because President Obama believes that he's Akhenaten in a previous life, especially during and after his trip to Egypt. Looking at the statue of Akhenaten, I can be more convinced that (though I wonder about reincarnation) he is than Prince because the two bears a striking resemblance. Not only that, look at Obama's position today. He's put in a position of leadership to a country whereas Prince is a musician. Like Akenaten, Obama is considered by many to be an religious heretic. I can see Prince being one of the Pharoah's musicians whom adopted his beliefs, but that's just me

Just as a side note on Mayte / Nefertiti / The One video:

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All I wanna know is, has any Egyptologist uncovered "F*ck me or I'm going shopping!" in Egyptian hieroglyphs at Amarna? Just curious.

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I watch a lot of shows on Egyptian history and have yet to come across a "discovery" or "finding" of any such thing.

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Maybe I missed an episode.

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Yes, I realize that Mayte has now been downgraded to a "minor wife" but the truth still remains. Nefertiti or a "minor wife", the proof is in the pudding. I need some proof. I wanna see some of that discourse at Amarna in hieroglyphs. I don't think the Pharoah's wives probably spoke to him that way. It's call R*E*S*P*E*C*T. Just sayin.

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I'm not the one who brought her up if you reread this thread.

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Just looking for some answers. Seems there are a lot more questions than answers around here. At least my questions never get answered. They never used to get answered either. So, nothing new.

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Frankly, it doesn't matter.

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Carry on.

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Tremolina said:

^ The point is this thread is about Prince, not about Mayte. Nor how you feel about her.Please?

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I'm weary of the games.

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I'm sure there will be other people who will come along and answer your questions regarding Prince.

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Take care.

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Over and out.

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dJJ said: but capable of gently but firmly asserting his rights and ideas -No. Just like every other human being, he has to learn to protect his boundaries by trial and error. So, sometimes being too fierce, other times being to submissive. See the way he fought WB. See the way he fought fan(site(s). Nobody asserts his rights the way Prince does.

completely undisciplined in another - No. I have always been very jalous of his extreme disciplined work ethic! Prince was once perhabs the "hardest working man in show business" . But see the way how pretty much all his independent ventures have turned out so far. Main reason: Prince is very undisciplined when it comes to the business part of his ventures; he has great ideas and is a magnificent artist, but as an entrepeneur loses interest quickly. He doesn't sustain ideas, doesn't nurture projects. He goes from one to the next. Not really caring too much about how he does it, nor the possible damage he does to customer relations, personal, band and industry relations in the process. Those are worries for later on, to 'fix up' then... The 'art', the 'inspiration' has his priority. It comes 'first' (not that the money won't either tho)...

disconcerting tendency to alternate between over-activity and apathy - No. I can't imagine Prince in apathy. He'll be in his head, but not apathic. Prince hasn't released a new album in 3 years. That's a worrisome form of apathy in Prince terms. Prince, the man who once said he wished the music industry was like in the days of James Brown, who was able to relaese multible albums per year. Since he is "free", he has only every now and then tried to release multible albums per year. Perhabs something to do with his "profound sense of justice"?

bossy - Yes and no. He's also seems to have a serving side to him. Prince can be extremely bossy, trust me! (Wendy! Put down the mf'n magazine!!")

not always eays to live with - Well, who is? If he really would be "easy to live with", he would have been able to settle down by now at 455 no?" It's not just obvious , he knows and admits himself in his music how he is; just 1 example: I know that living with me baby was sometimes hard, sometimes hard..." (of course, that could be 'just a song', that could not be 'real')

tends to quickly tire of relations - I would speculate that it's more an attachment thing. Just like most of us. Ahem...



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Tremolina said:

Stymie said:

In one of the examples you cited: "my name is Prince but I don't wanna be king". It makes me think he was buying into his princely name but wasn't anymore.

And again in The Everlasting Now he states:

That's when he took his pearly crown
He raised it up and spun it 'round
And tossed in2 the deep blue underground

He acknowledges something, someone perhaps, greater than himself. It made me think he was no longer buying into his own hype.

There are touches here and there were he is still caught bragging but nothing like in the past. I think he now accepts he is second to a "king".

I can very much go along with that thought.

Hold on to it.

I truly think stymie has made the most focused and intelligent post on this thread.

It hits the nail right on the head.


Prince took his pearly crown
He raised it up and spun it 'round
And tossed in2 the deep blue underground

He 'killed' his 'pearly crown'.

Yes he did.

He did so in 1993, aged 35, with the 'name change', that he announced would happen in 1992 with

As well as with his 'death' on 'Come'.

Sacrifice.



I knew this dude
He was very cool
He used 2 rule
Until he went 2 school

Not a normal school
That breeds a fool
But the ones that teaches
Men aren't fit to rule

That's when he took his pearly crown
He raised it up and spun it 'round
And tossed in2 the deep blue underground

No longer lead by the ways of men
He looked 4 the kingdom deep within
That's when the drums in his head began 2 pound

Don't let nobody bring u down
Accurate knowledge of Christ and the Father
Will bring the Everlasting Now
Join the party, make a sound
Share the truth, preach the good news
Don't let nobody bring u down
The Everlasting Now

Now turn the page, at an early age
This brutha on stage, he was all the rage
He taught an integrated world 2 sing
The color u are don't mean a thing
Everybody's a star all the everyday people sang

He changed the funk, put it in a bag
Then he changed the colors of the flag
But u can't teach a dog new tricks if his tail don't wag
Don't know matter how much money u made
All the cars u got and all the women u laid
Mess with the flag and 2 them u're still a spade

Don't let nobody bring u down
Accurate knowledge of Christ and the Father
Will bring the Everlasting Now
Join the party, make a sound
Share the truth, preach the good news
Don't let nobody bring u down
The Everlasting Now

See this girl in her make-believe world
Plastic boobs and clip-on curls
'Round the pole see her big butt twirl
There r the dreams that do unfurl
Never everlasting

Don't let anybody bring u down
The Everlasting Now

Watch that girl in her make-believe world
Plastic boobs and clip-on curls
'Round the pole see her big butt twirl
Electric beaches skin do bake
Vanilla fudge and wedding cake
If u should die b4 u wake
U got any last requests 2 make?

The Everlasting Now
The Everlasting Now
The Everlasting Now

Johnny, B. Well and bring the beat

From this day forward 'til times indefinite, those who love Christ r the
ones who benefit. All the players' ice melted in2 one platinum chain and in
a downward spiral it dropped down the chain.

"U know, this is funky but I wish he'd play like he used 2, old scragglyhead."

Don't let nobody bring u down
Accurate knowledge of Christ and the Father
Will bring the Everlasting Now
Join the party, come on make a sound
Share the truth, preach the good news
Don't let nobody bring u down
The Everlasting Now

The Everlasting Now
The Everlasting Now
The Everlasting Now
Now, now, now
The Everlasting Now

Yay for Stymie!!!

But can you elaborate?

You have met the man, been a fan for like 30 years (?) and part of the org's furniture, not?

Tremolina said:

But can you elaborate?

You have met the man, been a fan for like 30 years (?) and part of the org's furniture, not?

Part of the org's furniture? Fourteen years IS a long time.

I'll elbaorate soon. Off to see The Family.