Bot Screwdriver and Breakfast Can Wait contain innuendo, the latter is an unashamed ode to morning sex. To be honest I hadn't expected to hear lyrics like this from Prince anymore, so I am somewhat surprised.

He has had some "sexyness" in his songs post-1998, but it was never as in the open as now. I wonder what made him become more comfortable with his sexuality. Is the Jehovah Witness thing slipping? Or is it just that his opinions on sex have become (somewhat) more relaxed?

Brendan said:

This to me doesn't sound at all like a 20-year-old Prince trying to placate, but rather an intelligent artist creating from where he is, which is perhaps a more peaceful place of understanding with his past.

I hope so

terrig said:

I hope so

why?

I think it's all about evolving, and becoming inspired by different things and people. JW's can talk about sex, just not in a manner that is grotesque.

rdhull said:

terrig said:

I hope so

why?

He's more interesting to me when he's wrestling with god vs desire....Prince attempting to reign himself in is hot as hell lololol Naughty, isn't *nasty* ...it's normal sexuality inmho.

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I feel like screwdriver is the worst of both words.

"You're MY screw!" That's friggin nasty, and not even in the way I like. It's just gross. But it still doesn't let the leashes off in the way a song like "Feel U Up" does.

Prince has never not talked about sex.

There's is sex in the Rainbow Children album, Musicology album, 3121 album, etc.

This idea of him "going back" to something because of a couple of songs celebrating sex is contrived.

funkaholic1972 said:

Bot Screwdriver and Breakfast Can Wait contain innuendo, the latter is an unashamed ode to morning sex. To be honest I hadn't expected to hear lyrics like this from Prince anymore, so I am somewhat surprised.

He has had some "sexyness" in his songs post-1998, but it was never as in the open as now. I wonder what made him become more comfortable with his sexuality. Is the Jehovah Witness thing slipping? Or is it just that his opinions on sex have become (somewhat) more relaxed?

Is anything in "Breakfast can wait" naughtier than Prince singing, "wet circles round the toy as you bring yourself to joy"?

SynthiaRose said:

Prince has never not talked about sex.

There's is sex in the Rainbow Children album, Musicology album, 3121 album, etc.

This idea of him "going back" to something because of a couple of songs celebrating sex is contrived.

While I definitely do agree that there were sexual elements in those albums listed above, I think we can all agree that "You're my SCREW!" is a little more overt then anything in TRC lol

I just feel it lacks the subtlty I used to appreceate from Prince's music

Prince never left his sexual side! It's just apart of him!

What is defined as 'Naughty' anyways? I think some of his earlier antics were more about creating a sense of 'Uptown' and 'Freedom' than him actually having it apart of his style.

Lyrically, he has always been naughty. I can't think of time where he wasn't...I just can't. Haha

EyeJester7 said:

Wat do u call incesense and candles? Black Sweat?

Or even Rainbow children(mellow) "f you desire I'll shed my attire, anything to get you wet"

skywalker said:

funkaholic1972 said:

Bot Screwdriver and Breakfast Can Wait contain innuendo, the latter is an unashamed ode to morning sex. To be honest I hadn't expected to hear lyrics like this from Prince anymore, so I am somewhat surprised.

He has had some "sexyness" in his songs post-1998, but it was never as in the open as now. I wonder what made him become more comfortable with his sexuality. Is the Jehovah Witness thing slipping? Or is it just that his opinions on sex have become (somewhat) more relaxed?

Is anything in "Breakfast can wait" naughtier than Prince singing, "wet circles round the toy as you bring yourself to joy"?

one of my favorite lines

skywalker said:

Is anything in "Breakfast can wait" naughtier than Prince singing, "wet circles round the toy as you bring yourself to joy"?

I'm not sure there's much in any of Prince that is--there's places in which he uses more forbidden words, but as far as what he's describing, this is going pretty far, and earlier in "Mellow" he said, "If you desire I'll shed my attire--anything to get you wet."

Now, he'd done similar things before. He's done them since. There's stuff on Bria's album that goes this far, for example (I don't have it on this computer and don't feel like trying to track down lyrics right now--and since several of you claim to have never listened to it or to want to recognize its existence except to attack it, I probably should just leave it out of the discussion). But as far as I can tell, naughty isn't back, 'cause naughty never left. Oh, sure, he'd give some discussion to a ring or whine about being left on the couch, but he's always been saying stuff on this level. And I can't see that these new tunes are raising things up a notch at all.

"Screwdriver" isn't as "naughty" as "Mellow"--other than the chorus line, I'm not even sure it's about sex, and "I'm your driver, you're my screw" is not actually a particularly descriptive line, just a suggestive pun that really doesn't make any literal sense. Screwdrivers and screws aren't really good analogues for the act in question. The driver twists the screw to force the screw into something else. How exactly does that work as a metaphor? It really doesn't. Once the whole driver thing comes in, it's just a mess.

As for "Breakfast Can Wait"--yes, we can probably assume he wants a little more than a couple of kisses (though nearly everything he says could be covered by that, and most of it's been used in chaste little pop songs forever--except that we're clearly starting this song in bed), but just how naughty is what he's really saying? "I'd rather have a bite of you"? "You really put it on me"? "You shut it down"? "I'd rather have you in my glass" (compare to "Mellow"'s "I'd rather have a glass of you")? "I need another taste"?

This just doesn't seem all that filthy to me. Did you guys really go "Whoa--what did he just say?" when you heard these lines? You have been listening the last 35 years, right? Or did you stop after the mid-nineties and completely make up some new artist who hasn't been singing lines like this? He hasn't been doing "Come" or "P Control," but let's not exaggerate the change.

Speaking of songs more recent songs where he can be a bit naughty-- has anybody noticed the way the end of "Breakfast Can Wait" (with its call to congregate and pray) recalls the beginning of "Dance 4 Me," which has a call to the "funky congregation" to "bow our heads in prayer"?

EddieC said:

SynthiaRose said:

Prince has never not talked about sex.

There's is sex in the Rainbow Children album, Musicology album, 3121 album, etc.

This idea of him "going back" to something because of a couple of songs celebrating sex is contrived.

I never said he was "going back", I just wondered what made him go sort of 'explicit' again.

funkaholic1972 said:

SynthiaRose said:

Prince has never not talked about sex.

There's is sex in the Rainbow Children album, Musicology album, 3121 album, etc.

This idea of him "going back" to something because of a couple of songs celebrating sex is contrived.

I never said he was "going back", I just wondered what made him go sort of 'explicit' again.

Okay, maybe when you said "Is 'naughty Prince' back" you meant he (naughty Prince) was "coming back." What about SynthiaRose's point, which is that sex was always there?

I know "going back" can suggest a judgement that someone is taking step backward, but I don't think that's what she meant, or what you meant to say in your initial post. You think he's doing something he'd stopped doing for a while; some of the rest of us are saying he always did do it. There are threads (like that rdhull one currently going on) where there's more of a judgment about the subject matter and defending or arguing its worth, but I don't think that's what's going on in this one.

he never left. or some decrepit shit to that effect from someone other than purplepolitician.

Naughty never left

I believe Prince has always been naughty or sexual. I think it's just something that makes up who he is. I guess since he has gotten older, he has mellowed out and isn't as 'persistant'. But the essence is still there