pueroda said:

I refuse to believe he hates his fans!

Believe it, honey. It's true. Prince has ZERO regard for his fans.

Prince loves to generate excitement, and he loves attention... but I believe he would never just 'give us what we want', because (I think) that would make him feel like he's given up his power and authority.

But it's nice to hear about what people want, just the same.

Probably a Bria Valente box set. Don't have a need for anything else.

Do what Jack White does whith his Third man records. That would make me a happy camper. Lots of vinyl!!

I'd buy new music mp3, or physical CD

Live concert tickets

I would buy an album and or a Blue ray.

No track here track there...

Dear Prince, If u are listening - I am just dying for a mirrored heart wristband (SOTT & Lovesexy), some zipper pulls with symbols and peace signs, and a deluxe Sign O the Times boxset complete with DVD and that long version of Adore.

Beyond that, I'll pretty much buy anything you offer. Insatiable is my name when it comes to you!

NDRU said:

I am one of the rare Prince fans who does not really want him to just open the vault. That would be too much crap to wade through to get to the best stuff.

But, that's EXACTLY what you're getting with his "new" music, but at least the "best stuff" (non-rerecorded) in the vault is miles - hell, light years - ahead of what he's putting out now.

With regards to Prince saying that he will not release any more albums, he says that it is because he doesn't have a (label or distribution) deal.

What about his relationship with "Purple Records"? They are releasing both vinyl and CD formats.

This thread has turned into a great resource for what Prince fans really want. Thanks for participating in what I feel to be a constructive discussion.

~G

Giovanni777 said:

With regards to Prince saying that he will not release any more albums, he says that it is because he doesn't have a (label or distribution) deal.

What about his relationship with "Purple Records"? They are releasing both vinyl and CD formats.

This thread has turned into a great resource for what Prince fans really want. Thanks for participating in what I feel to be a constructive discussion.

~G

The only problem is...............he will be releasing a new album. (I least I hope he will)

more vinyl. more raw recordings, like the bambi rehearsal. more punk rock, less gospel R&B.

more current synth pop sound

chopingard said:

Whether he really cares what we think or not I enjoy imagining an ideal interaction so here it is

AUDIO - ALL audio available in mp3 and 24bit 48k Wav ($1 for mp3 $1.50 for wav for example), Price compilations by number of tracks eg... 10 track mp3=$10, 20 track Wav $30

INDIVIDUAL OUTTAKES, DEMO'S (All periods) - Either as individual tracks or period, theme bassed compilations. Maybee even just grab a random 2 Inch mag reel off the shelves and transfer what's on it and sell each reel, studio chat and tune up included (Include Studio sheets as PDF?).

UNRELEASED ALBUM PROJECTS (ALL periods) - Original configurations of albums like Come, Gold, Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic (1989), Dream Factory, The Flesh........ You know the list goes on. Maybe just take a refrence cassette from a days work and just digitise that and sell as an EP (with picture of hand written notes and the cassette as PDF?)

ENTIRE RELEASED BACK CATALOGUE - Including 45's 12"s Promo's, EP's Maxi's and albums WB's and non WB's, Respect the legacy and make it easy for future musicians to discover

LIVE AND REHEARSAL (All periods) - Editing is the enemy, Just release the shows, If there's 2 minutes of audience screaming on the DAT just leave it on , At least one main show and one aftershow from each tour.

VIDEO - Available as HI - DEF file. or mp4 for people who just want it for their I pods. between $10 and $20 per full lenghth (longer than 45 minute show)

LIVE AND REHEARSAL (All periods) - Editing is the enemy, Just release the shows, If there's 2 minutes of audience screaming on the VHS/16'mm,35mm Film whatever format it's on just leave it on , At least one main show and one aftershow from each tour.

UNRELEASED FILM PROJECTS (ALL periods) - 3121 Movie, The Second Coming, Rainbow Children (Kevin Smith Doc), The Beautiful Experience, The Ryde Divine, Love 4 One Another, 21 Nights, Life O The Party..... Any and all documentries, Behind the scenes, Backstage footage we may not know about

ENTIRE RELEASED BACK CATALOGUE - Including Lovesexy Dortmound, Gett Off EP, The Undertaker, The Sacarifice Of Victor, Again respect the legacy and make it easy for future musicians to discover

INDIVIDUAL VIDEOS - Do videos singles for individual tracks for say $4 or $5. for full res unedited videos under 20 or 45 minutes... Examples Full res full lenghth versions of One Song, When I Lay My Hands On You, Empty Room, I Hate U even short clips like the Emancipation Cinema Trailer, Endorphine Machine video Any music video that has been shot

PHYSICAL RELEASES - CD'S, Vinyl, BluRay, Dvd releases could be decided byweb based poll or pre order system where any of these projects could recieve a physical relaease if enough votes or pre-orders garunteed profitability for the project

CONCERT TICKET AND VIDEO/AUDIO PACKAGES - Concert Audio Video downloads made available to pre order with every show or included in the ticket price, like Musicology, Planet Earth.

Roll out of the vault will take many years as i'm sure there's enough material for several life times but have at least 10 to 20 audio and video projects available for purches on the first day.

Dear god no membership, Just a free account that acts to aid purchasing like every other long running succesfull online site for purchasing media.

Like I say not holding my breath for anything more than a couple of clips throughout the next year and one or two mp3's but hey you asked me what I wanted and this is it

[Edited 1/27/13 11:46am]

Now this is very thorough, and covers just about everything.

I really like what you wrote under "LIVE AND REHEARSAL". On a related note, I've always been into live recordings that capture the audience as well as good quality sound, mix, and separation of the instruments. Most soundboard live shows sound like rehearsals, because one can't hear the audience.

The best way to capture a live performance is to use the soundboard audio, but also use overhead mics to capture the audience as a whole.

The problem with audience recorded live shows, is that they will capture the immediate surroundings of the bootlegger, so you get the "solo screamers"

With the overhead mics (placed correctly), you get the audience represented as an entity.

~G

Giovanni777 said:

chopingard said:

Whether he really cares what we think or not I enjoy imagining an ideal interaction so here it is

AUDIO - ALL audio available in mp3 and 24bit 48k Wav ($1 for mp3 $1.50 for wav for example), Price compilations by number of tracks eg... 10 track mp3=$10, 20 track Wav $30

INDIVIDUAL OUTTAKES, DEMO'S (All periods) - Either as individual tracks or period, theme bassed compilations. Maybee even just grab a random 2 Inch mag reel off the shelves and transfer what's on it and sell each reel, studio chat and tune up included (Include Studio sheets as PDF?).

UNRELEASED ALBUM PROJECTS (ALL periods) - Original configurations of albums like Come, Gold, Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic (1989), Dream Factory, The Flesh........ You know the list goes on. Maybe just take a refrence cassette from a days work and just digitise that and sell as an EP (with picture of hand written notes and the cassette as PDF?)

ENTIRE RELEASED BACK CATALOGUE - Including 45's 12"s Promo's, EP's Maxi's and albums WB's and non WB's, Respect the legacy and make it easy for future musicians to discover

LIVE AND REHEARSAL (All periods) - Editing is the enemy, Just release the shows, If there's 2 minutes of audience screaming on the DAT just leave it on , At least one main show and one aftershow from each tour.

VIDEO - Available as HI - DEF file. or mp4 for people who just want it for their I pods. between $10 and $20 per full lenghth (longer than 45 minute show)

LIVE AND REHEARSAL (All periods) - Editing is the enemy, Just release the shows, If there's 2 minutes of audience screaming on the VHS/16'mm,35mm Film whatever format it's on just leave it on , At least one main show and one aftershow from each tour.

UNRELEASED FILM PROJECTS (ALL periods) - 3121 Movie, The Second Coming, Rainbow Children (Kevin Smith Doc), The Beautiful Experience, The Ryde Divine, Love 4 One Another, 21 Nights, Life O The Party..... Any and all documentries, Behind the scenes, Backstage footage we may not know about

ENTIRE RELEASED BACK CATALOGUE - Including Lovesexy Dortmound, Gett Off EP, The Undertaker, The Sacarifice Of Victor, Again respect the legacy and make it easy for future musicians to discover

INDIVIDUAL VIDEOS - Do videos singles for individual tracks for say $4 or $5. for full res unedited videos under 20 or 45 minutes... Examples Full res full lenghth versions of One Song, When I Lay My Hands On You, Empty Room, I Hate U even short clips like the Emancipation Cinema Trailer, Endorphine Machine video Any music video that has been shot

PHYSICAL RELEASES - CD'S, Vinyl, BluRay, Dvd releases could be decided byweb based poll or pre order system where any of these projects could recieve a physical relaease if enough votes or pre-orders garunteed profitability for the project

CONCERT TICKET AND VIDEO/AUDIO PACKAGES - Concert Audio Video downloads made available to pre order with every show or included in the ticket price, like Musicology, Planet Earth.

Roll out of the vault will take many years as i'm sure there's enough material for several life times but have at least 10 to 20 audio and video projects available for purches on the first day.

Dear god no membership, Just a free account that acts to aid purchasing like every other long running succesfull online site for purchasing media.

Like I say not holding my breath for anything more than a couple of clips throughout the next year and one or two mp3's but hey you asked me what I wanted and this is it

[Edited 1/27/13 11:46am]

Now this is very thorough, and covers just about everything.

I really like what you wrote under "LIVE AND REHEARSAL". On a related note, I've always been into live recordings that capture the audience as well as good quality sound, mix, and separation of the instruments. Most soundboard live shows sound like rehearsals, because one can't hear the audience.

The best way to capture a live performance is to use the soundboard audio, but also use overhead mics to capture the audience as a whole.

The problem with audience recorded live shows, is that they will capture the immediate surroundings of the bootlegger, so you get the "solo screamers"

With the overhead mics (placed correctly), you get the audience represented as an entity.

~G

I remember reading an interview with Prince's live sound guy from around the early 90's and apparently for the Act I AND Act II Soundboards he did just that, I think the remainder of Prince's sound boards are the flat direct recordings. When listening to his Ahdio shows this seemed to be true

YES!!! Reissue old tee shirts!

teiemka said:

Giovanni777 said:

I won't pay for mp3s... ever. Won't do iTunes... ever.

I'm with you Gio, all paid digital downloads should be available in both mp3 and lossless format.

I dont need physical media, but lossless is non negotiable as far as I'm concerned.

I also believe that his entire back catalog including post WB and NPGMC should be made available for purchase. This will greatly dampen the secondary market, which doesn't affect Prince at all, and allows any new fans who are discovering Prince to readily acquire anything that has been officially released. By officially released I mean everything that's under official releases in Princevault, albums, online albums, maxi singles, one off tracks, all of it in a one stop shop.

What would I buy, I'm just about the music, whether it's outtakes, new material, concert soundboards or videos.

There should also be a loyalty program based on purchases that provides entitlements to concert presales or some other reward.

Merchandise is not welcome.

Hi Teiemka,

I just caught this post, which is so well written.

Looks like we're both all about the music. I really like what you've written above about dampening the secondary market by re-releasing post WB stuff. I would also add the release of live concert video to that, as that would also greatly dampen the secondary market as well as provide some (officialy released) evidence, so to speak, of Prince's live greatness to all of these youth that still have no idea of what a "live wire" Prince is in concert.

~G

luv4u said:

Stuff, just like the NPGMC store.

I hope he has a link for a store merch where we can purchase music, cds, dvds, and T-shirts, tickets, etc, etc.

I agree and would add DVDs of every tour from Dirty Mind to Welcome 2 America. I also want a DVD of his performace from the Fire It Up Tour, but I don't think he'd have the legal ability to do that. Of course, I hope I'm wrong, and he can add that also.

I'd be interested in a DVD of music videos/concerts by The Time.

he knows we'll buy whatever he puts out.

so my request is if he releases any old...unreleased, vault stuff...be it audio or video, please PLEASE just leave it the f*ck alone....don't mess with it! don't clean it up, or try to make it better....we like it the way it is.

- vinyl releases, limited, numbered... without expensive artwork but maybe with some liner notes. price will depend on quantity released.

(first 100 or 1000 or whatever orders come with a photo or something original)

- songs of such releases available for everyone as digital download in 256kbps for the price of maybe 1.50 USD per track.

- releases could include studio jams, live recs, outtakes or new songs. or combination like crystal ball. or spontanous mini albums 4-6 songs or so. (i like the crystal ball concept...)

now everybody can choose: do you want to invest in art/a piece of history (limited LP) or is a decent (more or less) sounding mp3 enough for your listening pleasure of such a release (iPad, iPhone...) but you're still able to listen to the music and enjoy it.

what I don't feel are the wishes for remasters. hm? Prince's stuff of the early days sounds still banging enuff for me. it is what it is. it captures the music and production style of a certain musical aera. i'm happy with adjusting some details on my amp or mixer...

Prince won't get rich with selling music anymore. these times are over (i think). but releasing stuff will always be a good promo for him as an artist. he must earn his money with live performances (i think the dakota shows are a very interesting way to do that (small fees for location (great promo for location cuz of P), small stage, small PA, no expensive light/media show, small band... BUT high prices & intimate, exclusive moments with a great/big artist). even the DJ set and DVD show sells out! great for him!

IstenSzek said:

whatever format, i'll hand over my cc details for:

01. outtakes from the period between 1979 and 1999.

02. new music. the more the better

03. soundboard concert audio

i'll pick up concert video or dvd releases if they are released, but it's not something

i'm really hoping for.

what i want the most is just music. studio songs. a combination between outtakes

and new stuff would be great.

soundboard concerts would be great too.

AGREE on EVERY part.

Graycap23 said:

Giovanni777 said:

With regards to Prince saying that he will not release any more albums, he says that it is because he doesn't have a (label or distribution) deal.

What about his relationship with "Purple Records"? They are releasing both vinyl and CD formats.

This thread has turned into a great resource for what Prince fans really want. Thanks for participating in what I feel to be a constructive discussion.

~G

The only problem is...............he will be releasing a new album. (I least I hope he will)

does purple music release/have

full length CDs ??

PoorLonelyComputer said:

pueroda said:

I refuse to believe he hates his fans!

Believe it, honey. It's true. Prince has ZERO regard for his fans.

definitely for some of the tired folks on here.....

He said internet is dead ----> made a new website.

I'd say the next steps will be make an album (since he said he won't) in which he'll put some cover of famous song.

What Purple Music have done so far is ininfluent. I think they would make an album for him if he asks. But I think he will actually make one.

I just hope anything he decides, won't be too expensive. I have two kids and can't starve them to buy prince's stuff, y'know...

Ok, excitement is over. Right now I just want something, anything, to become available for purchase!

Man, I forgot about the best idea of all:

A SIRIOUS/XM PRINCE CHANNEL

Anyone that's listened to the E Street channel (Bruce Springsteen) knows what a smashing success this would be.

I'm trying to find out how much Bruce makes per year, because this is all about Prince monetizing his catalogue. So I hope it's enough to get Prince's attention.

He could deliver product to hundreds of thousands of people (maybe millions) every single day.

Springsteen's channel is a huge hit and has been for 10 years. I'm sure it's played a large part in the success of Springsteen's music sales and concert ticket sales.

RodeoSchro said:

Man, I forgot about the best idea of all:

A SIRIOUS/XM PRINCE CHANNEL

Anyone that's listened to the E Street channel (Bruce Springsteen) knows what a smashing success this would be.

I'm trying to find out how much Bruce makes per year, because this is all about Prince monetizing his catalogue. So I hope it's enough to get Prince's attention.

He could deliver product to hundreds of thousands of people (maybe millions) every single day.

Springsteen's channel is a huge hit and has been for 10 years. I'm sure it's played a large part in the success of Springsteen's music sales and concert ticket sales.

Damn... that's a great idea!

...Just nobody tell P that Bruce did it first.

eyewishuheaven said:

RodeoSchro said:

Man, I forgot about the best idea of all:

A SIRIOUS/XM PRINCE CHANNEL

Anyone that's listened to the E Street channel (Bruce Springsteen) knows what a smashing success this would be.

I'm trying to find out how much Bruce makes per year, because this is all about Prince monetizing his catalogue. So I hope it's enough to get Prince's attention.

He could deliver product to hundreds of thousands of people (maybe millions) every single day.

Springsteen's channel is a huge hit and has been for 10 years. I'm sure it's played a large part in the success of Springsteen's music sales and concert ticket sales.

Damn... that's a great idea!

...Just nobody tell P that Bruce did it first.

Unless there's another way to get it (online stream or something) no thanks. Not investing in satellite radio for Prince...

djThunderfunk said:

eyewishuheaven said:

Damn... that's a great idea!

...Just nobody tell P that Bruce did it first.

Unless there's another way to get it (online stream or something) no thanks. Not investing in satellite radio for Prince...

Yes, you can stream it online from Sirius/XM. You can also get it at home if you have Dish TV.

I don't think you don't have to buy a satellite radio.

UPDATE: Nope, you don't need a satellite radio: http://www.siriusxm.com/internetradio

I assume you could play it from your phone or tablet through your car stereo system if you have an aux input.

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[Edited 2/4/13 14:03pm]