rdhull said:

Heres somethng: jermey/j7 just ask prince to remaster 1999. Just that one and all will be okay. Just 1999. That wont be hard to do or lose from.

1999 the New Master x all the songs

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

NuPwrSoul said:

I didn't hear that. Only speculation. By this point in his life, Prince only trusts Prince with the stewardship of his art.

As I've always said, Prince fans need to realize they are not stockholders in PRN Enterprises. (I know you don't feel this way.)

Aside from the LotsuFlower fuckup of a site, I can't say that I have not gotten my money's worth / return on investment from Prince in all my years being a fan. I don't owe him shit. And he don't owe anything. Not even remasters or dvds. Unless I pay for them.

I suspect when he wants to engage us / his audience with something to offer, he will. I wouldn't put remasters out of the mix because you never know. My guess is he's (always) looking for the way to do it that he considers most self-serving. And there is nothing wrong with that.

The bottom line, without the fans Prince would be making music in his basement. He is where he is because of us. He wasn't just born a millionaire.

Even if I were to grant you that we did. Well he's been made. Do you feel that you did not get what you were supposed to get from the process? Was there any point in the series of interactions/exchanges where you feel you did not get what you expected? Did you ever pay for an album you did not receive? A concert you where he was supposed to but did not perform?

What do you think you are owed for making him a "millionaire" as you seem to suggest, for putting him "where he is"?

That's really a remarkable sense of entitlement to feel over someone. I don't feel it.

NuPwrSoul said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

The bottom line, without the fans Prince would be making music in his basement. He is where he is because of us. He wasn't just born a millionaire.

Even if I were to grant you that we did. Well he's been made. Do you feel that you did not get what you were supposed to get from the process? Was there any point in the series of interactions/exchanges where you feel you did not get what you expected? Did you ever pay for an album you did not receive? A concert you where he was supposed to but did not perform?

What do you think you are owed for making him a "millionaire" as you seem to suggest, for putting him "where he is"?

That's really a remarkable sense of entitlement to feel over someone. I don't feel it.

It's not entitlement, it's fact. I have little gripes over content but I do have an issue in the way that Prince has used the money we have put in his pocket to then turn around and attack the fanbase and try and shut down forums and harrass goodhearted people and poison the well with his malicious behavior.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

NuPwrSoul said:

Even if I were to grant you that we did. Well he's been made. Do you feel that you did not get what you were supposed to get from the process? Was there any point in the series of interactions/exchanges where you feel you did not get what you expected? Did you ever pay for an album you did not receive? A concert you where he was supposed to but did not perform?

What do you think you are owed for making him a "millionaire" as you seem to suggest, for putting him "where he is"?

That's really a remarkable sense of entitlement to feel over someone. I don't feel it.

It's not entitlement, it's fact. I have little gripes over content but I do have an issue in the way that Prince has used the money we have put in his pocket to then turn around and attack the fanbase and try and shut down forums and harrass goodhearted people and poison the well with his malicious behavior.

those people were not goodhearted lol

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

NuPwrSoul said:

Even if I were to grant you that we did. Well he's been made. Do you feel that you did not get what you were supposed to get from the process? Was there any point in the series of interactions/exchanges where you feel you did not get what you expected? Did you ever pay for an album you did not receive? A concert you where he was supposed to but did not perform?

What do you think you are owed for making him a "millionaire" as you seem to suggest, for putting him "where he is"?

That's really a remarkable sense of entitlement to feel over someone. I don't feel it.

It's not entitlement, it's fact. I have little gripes over content but I do have an issue in the way that Prince has used the money we have put in his pocket to then turn around and attack the fanbase and try and shut down forums and harrass goodhearted people and poison the well with his malicious behavior.

He's not the government who you can vote about how your tax money will be spent.

He can choose as he likes to do with his money. He has given a lot to charity and spend a lot on himself & girlfriends. If he wants to buy himself a purple pyramid on the north pole, that is his choice and he's as free as a bird to do that.

It's not that he put a gun up to anybody's head to purchase his music.

dJJ said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

It's not entitlement, it's fact. I have little gripes over content but I do have an issue in the way that Prince has used the money we have put in his pocket to then turn around and attack the fanbase and try and shut down forums and harrass goodhearted people and poison the well with his malicious behavior.

He's not the government who you can vote about how your tax money will be spent.

He can choose as he likes to do with his money. He has given a lot to charity and spend a lot on himself & girlfriends. If he wants to buy himself a purple pyramid on the north pole, that is his choice and he's as free as a bird to do that.

It's not that he put a gun up to anybody's head to purchase his music.

Of course, which is exactly why I haven't put 1 cent in his pocket for 5 years and counting!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

dJJ said:

He's not the government who you can vote about how your tax money will be spent.

He can choose as he likes to do with his money. He has given a lot to charity and spend a lot on himself & girlfriends. If he wants to buy himself a purple pyramid on the north pole, that is his choice and he's as free as a bird to do that.

It's not that he put a gun up to anybody's head to purchase his music.

Of course, which is exactly why I haven't put 1 cent in his pocket for 5 years and counting!

The revenge of the orger!

Folks, folks, lets keep things ion track.

No more talk about suing websites ..we been all through that.

We are now talking about 2013, remasters, dvds, etc.

Milty said:

I also think the bottom line is this.....

Prince fans are really difficult to please sometimes.

Straight talk instead of cryptic and childish mind games, plus some well produced and properly released DVD's would satisfy me and most of his fans. It's that simple.

He's been doing this for years, since Jamie Starr.

Prince is incapable of doing anything that is straightforward and simple.

rdhull said:

Folks, folks, lets keep things ion track.

No more talk about suing websites ..we been all through that.

We are now talking about 2013, remasters, dvds, etc.

At least this time only 3rdeyegirl is in trouble

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

rdhull said:

Folks, folks, lets keep things ion track.

No more talk about suing websites ..we been all through that.

We are now talking about 2013, remasters, dvds, etc.

At least this time only 3rdeyegirl is in trouble

rdhull said:

NuPwrSoul said:

I didn't hear that. Only speculation.

I didnt hear it Im going by whats been reported.

But I'm pretty sure we are not getting remasters. If thats the case so be it. Just let a nikro know..well now I do lol.

I think it's safe to say we aren't getting any remasters this year. But why would a remaster campaign be announced this year, when next year is the 30th anniversary of Purple Rain? 2014 would be the year to start a reissue campaign if it were going to happen. Even if the negotiations between Prince and WMG are at a standstill now, that could change by next year with corporate turnover and whatnot.

Anyway, I don't care about remasters as such. I'd like to see Rhino finish the vinyl reissue series they started, but other than that I'm happy with the records I have and the SHM-CDs. I'm much more interested in unreleased stuff from the vault, or better quality versions of what we already have. And Prince is not the only source for that stuff.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

NuPwrSoul said:

Even if I were to grant you that we did. Well he's been made. Do you feel that you did not get what you were supposed to get from the process? Was there any point in the series of interactions/exchanges where you feel you did not get what you expected? Did you ever pay for an album you did not receive? A concert you where he was supposed to but did not perform?

What do you think you are owed for making him a "millionaire" as you seem to suggest, for putting him "where he is"?

That's really a remarkable sense of entitlement to feel over someone. I don't feel it.

It's not entitlement, it's fact. I have little gripes over content but I do have an issue in the way that Prince has used the money we have put in his pocket to then turn around and attack the fanbase and try and shut down forums and harrass goodhearted people and poison the well with his malicious behavior.

"money we have put in his pocket"

this wasn't charity or taxes. I don't know about you, but I put money in his pocket for CDs, concert tickets, etc. Not to determine his legal or marketing strategies no matter how unwise or detrimental to his fanbase they may be.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

NuPwrSoul said:

Even if I were to grant you that we did. Well he's been made. Do you feel that you did not get what you were supposed to get from the process? Was there any point in the series of interactions/exchanges where you feel you did not get what you expected? Did you ever pay for an album you did not receive? A concert you where he was supposed to but did not perform?

What do you think you are owed for making him a "millionaire" as you seem to suggest, for putting him "where he is"?

That's really a remarkable sense of entitlement to feel over someone. I don't feel it.

It's not entitlement, it's fact. I have little gripes over content but I do have an issue in the way that Prince has used the money we have put in his pocket to then turn around and attack the fanbase and try and shut down forums and harrass goodhearted people and poison the well with his malicious behavior.

Supa, remember, it's the fans that make the choice of shelling out their money to purchase an artist's music or merchandise. No one is forced to. I think sometimes many fans set themselves up for disappointment by building high expectations of some of their favorite artists. Let alone, think they have some entitlement in being a part of signing the papers of an artist's business transactions or making the choices or final decisions in a musician's/artist's personal lives. I'm not sure those requirements comes with being a fan of someone's music. I see it this way, if you like the music then buy and enjoy it, if not, then nothing wrong with that either, as there are many musicians/artists' music to enjoy as well.

[Edited 1/10/13 13:27pm]

I read this whole thing and still don't know wtf is going on. RD, you crack me up.

I don't know where folks' expectations came into play with regards to the spreecast. I thought the Doc made it very clear that it was going to be a discussion with him and the "uberfan". I can't be arsed to respond to the Doc's discussion points because nothing comes of it. Ever.

Anywho, there are so many folks acting brand new that I just don't know what to say. I've been saying that Prince should talk to us like a normal person for over ten years now and folks came at me for it.

Not going to pay anything for a website and don't think there should be another one. There was nothing wrong with NPGMC other than Prince not delivering content. I developed a camaraderie with people that was gone when the website died.

Bootlegs for "dayz" and other juvenile promises are just too much. I don't fall for the carrot on the stick anymore. A friend asked what I thought when the something big for 2013 thing was posted and I stated honestly that I don't care. I had no expectations and the little bit of excitement I did feel after hearing the new music was spoiled was fake cease and desist letters. If you're going to do a fake lawyer letter at least have the paragraphs justified on the left margin.

I will say that I do get jealous of the people who still have that fire and spark for Prince. I just can't anymore. "Something big" is coming and then you say don't have any expectations. I am too old for that shit.

electricberet said:

rdhull said:

I didnt hear it Im going by whats been reported.

But I'm pretty sure we are not getting remasters. If thats the case so be it. Just let a nikro know..well now I do lol.

I think it's safe to say we aren't getting any remasters this year. But why would a remaster campaign be announced this year, when next year is the 30th anniversary of Purple Rain? 2014 would be the year to start a reissue campaign if it were going to happen. Even if the negotiations between Prince and WMG are at a standstill now, that could change by next year with corporate turnover and whatnot.

I wasnt expecting an announcement of remasters for THIS year..but yall said he wont even consider them until "they give him" all of them..so at best he will wait until he has control of ALL of them which is SEVERAL years down the line. "I aint got that much time. We aint got time!"(c) Cloreen Baconskin.

Yall tryna make me out to be Bart when all I am is sad Jenkins because I heard the news today oh boy.

rdhull said:

electricberet said:

I think it's safe to say we aren't getting any remasters this year. But why would a remaster campaign be announced this year, when next year is the 30th anniversary of Purple Rain? 2014 would be the year to start a reissue campaign if it were going to happen. Even if the negotiations between Prince and WMG are at a standstill now, that could change by next year with corporate turnover and whatnot.

I wasnt expecting an announcement of remasters for THIS year..but yall said he wont even consider them until "they give him" all of them..so at best he will wait until he has control of ALL of them which is SEVERAL years down the line. "I aint got that much time. We aint got time!"(c) Cloreen Baconskin.

Yall tryna make me out to be Bart when all I am is sad Jenkins because I heard the news today oh boy.

But do you really want remasters, if he feels conscious-bound to edit his work to remove material/lyrics/etc. that he now finds objectionable?

Little did any of us know, all this time this was referring to Prince's wanker

NuPwrSoul said:

rdhull said:

I wasnt expecting an announcement of remasters for THIS year..but yall said he wont even consider them until "they give him" all of them..so at best he will wait until he has control of ALL of them which is SEVERAL years down the line. "I aint got that much time. We aint got time!"(c) Cloreen Baconskin.

Yall tryna make me out to be Bart when all I am is sad Jenkins because I heard the news today oh boy.

But do you really want remasters, if he feels conscious-bound to edit his work to remove material/lyrics/etc. that he now finds objectionable?

That aint gonna happen. He is not going to remaster the old cds and release them edited.

rdhull said:

electricberet said:

I think it's safe to say we aren't getting any remasters this year. But why would a remaster campaign be announced this year, when next year is the 30th anniversary of Purple Rain? 2014 would be the year to start a reissue campaign if it were going to happen. Even if the negotiations between Prince and WMG are at a standstill now, that could change by next year with corporate turnover and whatnot.

I wasnt expecting an announcement of remasters for THIS year..but yall said he wont even consider them until "they give him" all of them..so at best he will wait until he has control of ALL of them which is SEVERAL years down the line. "I aint got that much time. We aint got time!"(c) Cloreen Baconskin.

Yall tryna make me out to be Bart when all I am is sad Jenkins because I heard the news today oh boy.

The only reason the topic of remasters even came up was because one of the viewers who was brought into the conversation asked about it. I assume the questioners were selected at random (I certainly was). Dr. Funkenberry said he asked Prince about remasters a year ago and Prince didn't want to talk about it. That is hardly news, good or bad. The point of the Spreecast was to talk about the possibility of a new website and more concerts at Paisley Park.

BartVanHemelen said:

ohYeeeeeah said:

I invite you to check Bowie's sales since the early nineties. Low. Very low for such an artist.

Bullshit. How many times have his albums been repackaged and remastered and rereleased? They aren't doing that when they don't sell again and again.

Bullcrap. Bowie's single release was a major event. Meanwhile Prince's pathetic antics have generated negative publicity.

Regarding Prince, I'm certain he does not give a shit like he does not give a shit about my opinion or yours.

I suggest you check out the artwork for the Days Of Wild single to see how much Prince cares about someone else's opinion.

More bullshit from Bart My Arse from Belgium. We are used to it.

Bowie CDs sales have been poor the last 2 decades. I invite you to check for instance the sales of Heathen or Reality or Outside. You're talking remasters. Ah yeah check the latest release Live in Santa monica 1972 (remastered).

It has nothing to do with quality. Bowie is not the messiah he was back in the 70s for the general audience anymore. Finished. Over.

Check as well his number of followers on Twitter (official account) that has been there for a while now. Only 68000+ followers. Springsteen = 340000 followers.

The only major artist who has had a constant success live and with his CDs sales is Bruce Springsteen.

He is touring again this year playing more than 200 gigs a year filling stadiums all over the world. This is remarkable since he has been touring constantly for the last 5 years or so. You don't hear much about his success, do you ? There is no major buzz when he releases a new single.

You know what ? Just before Bowie got seriously ill, nobody apart from fans like me gave a shit about the Reality album. That was confidential.

The event is that a pop legend who was supposed to pass away again lately is back. That's what the buzz is all about.

What a marketing plan Bowie had! Planning his illness was so damn smart!

So I guess Prince should be ill and stop for ten years now.

[Edited 1/10/13 14:45pm]

the fuzz so far:

#1. A debate the pros and cons of "free" content

# 2. A discussion of a new web site

# 3. IF "3rd Eye Girl" turns out to be a band member

# 4. Andy Allo was indeed the co-producer of the CD

#5. Paisley Park. The soundstage at Paisley Park is currently under renovation

#6. these topics do NOT cover everything that PRINCE will be doing in 2013.

1: free content ? like free oxygen ?

2: oke

3: wink wink nutch nutch

4: oke

5: oke

6: ahaa

ohYeeeeeah said:

What a marketing plan Bowie had! Planning his illness was so damn smart!

So I guess Prince should be ill and stop for ten years now.

[Edited 1/10/13 14:45pm]

What illness? the press created that for him. All Bowie did was keep his mouth shut about recording for 2 years and we woke up one day to a new single and news of an album on the way. Do you think if we woke up one morning and Prince had 2 new flac cds for download on a simple website would this place be a buzz? Would if gain press??! If he actually just did it and out of the blue!! For me it would be no different the feeling when I stumbled onto some new music at the record store from a favorite artist and did not know anything was TBR. It's all about creating excitement.

electricberet said:

rdhull said:

I wasnt expecting an announcement of remasters for THIS year..but yall said he wont even consider them until "they give him" all of them..so at best he will wait until he has control of ALL of them which is SEVERAL years down the line. "I aint got that much time. We aint got time!"(c) Cloreen Baconskin.

Yall tryna make me out to be Bart when all I am is sad Jenkins because I heard the news today oh boy.

The only reason the topic of remasters even came up was because one of the viewers who was brought into the conversation asked about it. I assume the questioners were selected at random (I certainly was). Dr. Funkenberry said he asked Prince about remasters a year ago and Prince didn't want to talk about it. That is hardly news, good or bad. The point of the Spreecast was to talk about the possibility of a new website and more concerts at Paisley Park.

Look. Did they or did they not state that Prince said he was not concerned about remasters unless he is awarded all of them at once./ Did they say that or did they not?

I ain care about who or how it was brought up..its about the content of the conversation and the information given. I dont care if folks were "hangin on a string" -Loos Ends, if a participant was caught diggin in his nose on webcam, if there was a countdown to ecstasy clock..Im responding to the information received.

Look..Im neglecting writing tx plans for this back n forth reasoning why shit..make it worth it god damn it!

i love that new stuff is coming our way, is anyone else looking forward to this?

i think that sometimes, maybe prince bounces ideas off the people around him ('say, what would you think if we did this?') and then he kind of goes from there. i think we are in the early planning stages. the outlining stage.

i bet we will get more details in the future.

[Edited 1/10/13 15:54pm]

XxAxX said:

i love that new stuff is coming our way, is anyone else looking forward to this?

[Edited 1/10/13 15:47pm]

Whats coming besides Paisley parties?

XxAxX said:

i love that new stuff is coming our way, is anyone else looking forward to this?

Yes, if any new music is going to be released for purchase, then I'm looking forward to it. But I haven't seen that confirmed yet.

rdhull said:

XxAxX said:

i love that new stuff is coming our way, is anyone else looking forward to this?

[Edited 1/10/13 15:47pm]

Whats coming besides Paisley parties?

and meantime i edited

OnlyNDaUsa said:

electricberet said:

Yes, and I put in a plug for Dallas!

yup i saw ya! good job!

Go Dallas peeps!!

We should Org meet soon!