rdhull said:

electricberet said:

The only reason the topic of remasters even came up was because one of the viewers who was brought into the conversation asked about it. I assume the questioners were selected at random (I certainly was). Dr. Funkenberry said he asked Prince about remasters a year ago and Prince didn't want to talk about it. That is hardly news, good or bad. The point of the Spreecast was to talk about the possibility of a new website and more concerts at Paisley Park.

Look. Did they or did they not state that Prince said he was not concerned about remasters unless he is awarded all of them at once./ Did they say that or did they not?

I ain care about who or how it was brought up..its about the content of the conversation and the information given. I dont care if folks were "hangin on a string" -Loos Ends, if a participant was caught diggin in his nose on webcam, if there was a countdown to ecstasy clock..Im responding to the information received.

Look..Im neglecting writing tx plans for this back n forth reasoning why shit..make it worth it god damn it!

Here is my attempt at a transcript of what was said regarding remasters, starting around the 23-minute mark:

Steve Wask: What’s going on with the remasters? Are we ever going to see the day of that coming? Getting the Sign ‘O’ the Times remastered, Lovesexy remastered, something like that?

Dr. Funkenberry: If you’re asking me personally, I tried to ask Prince about that when we were hanging out in the studio with Andy Allo last year. I asked Prince about the masters and when you get them back, when can we get remasters, and he kind of really cut me off quickly, because I was trying to ask if it’s 30 years or 35 years when he gets the masters back, and he just went, “They should say forever, because that’s what it is, it’s forever.” It seemed like he really didn’t want to discuss it and was frustrated. He doesn’t want to get one master back at a time, he wants them all back, so he can do what he wants with them, you know. So, when we’re going to get new remasters? I’m not really sure on that. This year would be a great start.

Steve: … Sign, extended versions, all that stuff put out. I’ll buy anything. I’ve been collecting the man’s music since I was 6 years old…

Dr. FB: See, and you’re devoted, but for every one of you, there’s going to be 50 to 100 people that are just going to download those masters and the outtakes from the internet without paying him. Now, how do you make sure he gets his money for that without the 50 to 100 people taking it for each person like yourself that buys it.

Steve: Yeah, I understand where he’s coming from, but that’s the problem with today’s technology is, everyone can download anything, there’s no protection anymore, everyone can hack nowadays…

Dr. FB: Right. It makes it harder. I think he wishes there was a new technology out to where to where that can be protected.

[Discussion of Napster follows.]

electricberet said:

rdhull said:

Look. Did they or did they not state that Prince said he was not concerned about remasters unless he is awarded all of them at once./ Did they say that or did they not?

I ain care about who or how it was brought up..its about the content of the conversation and the information given. I dont care if folks were "hangin on a string" -Loos Ends, if a participant was caught diggin in his nose on webcam, if there was a countdown to ecstasy clock..Im responding to the information received.

Look..Im neglecting writing tx plans for this back n forth reasoning why shit..make it worth it god damn it!

Here is my attempt at a transcript of what was said regarding remasters, starting around the 23-minute mark:

Steve Wask: What’s going on with the remasters? Are we ever going to see the day of that coming? Getting the Sign ‘O’ the Times remastered, Lovesexy remastered, something like that?

Dr. Funkenberry: If you’re asking me personally, I tried to ask Prince about that when we were hanging out in the studio with Andy Allo last year. I asked Prince about the masters and when you get them back, when can we get remasters, and he kind of really cut me off quickly, because I was trying to ask if it’s 30 years or 35 years when he gets the masters back, and he just went, “They should say forever, because that’s what it is, it’s forever.” It seemed like he really didn’t want to discuss it and was frustrated. He doesn’t want to get one master back at a time, he wants them all back, so he can do what he wants with them, you know. So, when we’re going to get new remasters? I’m not really sure on that. This year would be a great start.

Steve: … Sign, extended versions, all that stuff put out. I’ll buy anything. I’ve been collecting the man’s music since I was 6 years old…

Dr. FB: See, and you’re devoted, but for every one of you, there’s going to be 50 to 100 people that are just going to download those masters and the outtakes from the internet without paying him. Now, how do you make sure he gets his money for that without the 50 to 100 people taking it for each person like yourself that buys it.

Steve: Yeah, I understand where he’s coming from, but that’s the problem with today’s technology is, everyone can download anything, there’s no protection anymore, everyone can hack nowadays…

Dr. FB: Right. It makes it harder. I think he wishes there was a new technology out to where to where that can be protected.

[Discussion of Napster follows.]

Like was presented earlier..he wants them all back at once and even then he is worried about some folks downloading them instead of purchasing them ala napster days etc? So he wont release them?

oh gawd

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[Edited 1/10/13 17:50pm]

rdhull said:

Like was presented earlier..he wants them all back at once and even then he is worried about some folks downloading them instead of purchasing them ala napster days etc? So he wont release them?

oh gawd

.

[Edited 1/10/13 17:50pm]

It sounds like he is just frustrated with the issue constantly coming up. Right now, he seems to be heading into a new productive period with Superconductor and some of the other new material we've seen lately. He wants to get that out to the fans. Instead, we're mainly interested in stuff he did 30 years ago. It's like when the former Beatles were trying to have solo careers in the 1970s and all anyone wanted to ask about was a possible Beatles reunion.

electricberet said:

rdhull said:

Like was presented earlier..he wants them all back at once and even then he is worried about some folks downloading them instead of purchasing them ala napster days etc? So he wont release them?

oh gawd

.

[Edited 1/10/13 17:50pm]

It sounds like he is just frustrated with the issue constantly coming up. Right now, he seems to be heading into a new productive period with Superconductor and some of the other new material we've seen lately. He wants to get that out to the fans. Instead, we're mainly interested in stuff he did 30 years ago. It's like when the former Beatles were trying to have solo careers in the 1970s and all anyone wanted to ask about was a possible Beatles reunion.

The issue will constantly come up to his grave. He can make money and lots of it without making money on every single inch of any and everything he creates. If he can let go of this OCD he'd be a lot happier and richer.

Prince told the Peach & Black Podcast . He has already started to get his Masters back. think he had just got Dirty Mind Or Controversy by then. So this year is 1999 & next year is the mega Purple Rain. So why should he wait 4 them all? Just put what he has now out. Life is too short...But I guess he would get a better deal with Purple Rain included. Since that is the "Master" of The "MasterPieces"

electricberet said:

rdhull said:

Like was presented earlier..he wants them all back at once and even then he is worried about some folks downloading them instead of purchasing them ala napster days etc? So he wont release them?

oh gawd

.

[Edited 1/10/13 17:50pm]

It sounds like he is just frustrated with the issue constantly coming up. Right now, he seems to be heading into a new productive period with Superconductor and some of the other new material we've seen lately. He wants to get that out to the fans. Instead, we're mainly interested in stuff he did 30 years ago. It's like when the former Beatles were trying to have solo careers in the 1970s and all anyone wanted to ask about was a possible Beatles reunion.

RD you are overreacting to this. First off, it was Dr FB's relaying a conversation he had and "his feelings" about what Prince intended or interepreted. By no means did Dr. FB represent this as Prince's official decision that there will never be masters... just that AT THAT TIME he did not want to have that discussion.

This wasn't as newsbreaking as I think you're making it out to be.

I'm not saying masters are just around the corner, but nothing said last night suggested to me any change positive or negative on the issue. Just that Prince did not want to have that conversation.

I mean, with all due respect to Dr. FB, whom I know personally and have no beef with, why were people tuning into this thing and asking questions like "when will we get remasters" as though Dr FB is Prince's official spokesperson.

This was a "spreecast" conversation between two fans, NOT a press conference. I don't know why people are tripping on this thing.

electricberet said:

rdhull said:

Like was presented earlier..he wants them all back at once and even then he is worried about some folks downloading them instead of purchasing them ala napster days etc? So he wont release them?

oh gawd

.

[Edited 1/10/13 17:50pm]

It sounds like he is just frustrated with the issue constantly coming up. Right now, he seems to be heading into a new productive period with Superconductor and some of the other new material we've seen lately. He wants to get that out to the fans. Instead, we're mainly interested in stuff he did 30 years ago. It's like when the former Beatles were trying to have solo careers in the 1970s and all anyone wanted to ask about was a possible Beatles reunion.

Dont give me that shit. Every artist got remasters..decades ago. It isnt out of the ordinary or unreasonable for remasters to be a topic of main discussion in 2013.

Hell, even my grandma got remasters and she aint even an artist. My lab done got remasters. Tiny Tim got remasters. Starland Vocal Band..them dudes who did afternoon delight..they got remasters.

NuPwrSoul said:

rdhull said:

rdhull said:

Brendan said:

rdhull said:

Dont give me that shit. Every artist got remasters..decades ago. It isnt out of the ordinary or unreasonable for remasters to be a topic of main discussion in 2013.

Hell, even my grandma got remasters and she aint even an artist. My lab done got remasters. Tiny Tim got remasters. Starland Vocal Band..them dudes who did afternoon delight..they got remasters.

Yeah, but I'll bet grandma didn't get paid. Just some stockings and shit.

You making fun of my grandma Brendan?

I am more disappointed that it looks like we are not going to get any live DVDs !!!!!!

Re-masters - well yeah, would be nice but at least we have heard the songs originally -

DVDs would have been so much nicer because many people have never had a chance to even see Prince live due to their location or finances -

to not release a live DVD after so many years is a real slap in the face -

other artists release concerts after their gigs are finished and have no beef with it -

so why should Prince be so uptight over it?

He rathers we look at bootleg videos instead of his work in good quality and sound????????? Which he can edit and approve of?

He is so insecure?

Daft if you ask me.

That is what has rattled my chain the most over the whole thing.

rdhull said:

Brendan said:

rdhull said:

You making fun of my grandma Brendan?

RD, your grandma's cool. I'm just concerned with her retirement fund.

She got a better deal than my lab.

NuPwrSoul said:

I mean, with all due respect to Dr. FB, whom I know personally and have no beef with, why were people tuning into this thing and asking questions like "when will we get remasters" as though Dr FB is Prince's official spokesperson.

This was a "spreecast" conversation between two fans, NOT a press conference. I don't know why people are tripping on this thing.

I think it was reasonable to expect some news from this, given the buildup with the "3rdeyegirl" stunt and the thank-you wishes on Dr. FB's webpage. And we did get some news, or at least rumors, about Paisley Park concerts and a possible new website. But I can't imagine why anyone would tune into it expecting to learn the release date for a deluxe edition of Sign 'O' The Times.

rdhull said:

Would like : NPG MusicClub2-

able to join the fun from

your PC even if you can't

afford to travel to attend the PaisleyPark parties.

The cost will be affordable to do so, the

view will be up close and personal and

the experience enjoyable. NPG members will still

experience the full benefits of being a member.

Prince and the NPG willl interact with the folx that

are putting $ in their pockets. I like artist who are humble

and appreciate their fanbase. Fans will stop

see that complaining will just shut down production.

I don't care about Remasters -My thoughts are on how

I can keep $ in my own pockets.

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"....That I'm a man who was born to have a mic on
Next to me at all time; ready to kick a rhyme
That will keep me out of financial bind
That's why when it comes to fans I'm never mean
Kids all see me between Gates and Green
Always say hello
Cause I'm a modest fellow
Never try and play a super star that's mellow
Cause if these kids don't go buy our records
We'll be has-beens and plus naked
So we owe them
So pull out your pen
Sign an autograph; you might make a new friend
So just get your boys and bring the noise and just swing it
And party people in the house, sing it..."--Chubb Rock (Treat'em Right)

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Stymie said:

"Something big" is coming

Little did any of us know, all this time this was referring to Prince's wanker

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Little did any of us know, all this time this was referring to Prince's wanker

RosesRred said:

Would like : NPG MusicClub2-

able to join the fun from

your PC even if you can't

afford to travel to attend the PaisleyPark parties.

The cost will be affordable to do so, the

view will be up close and personal and

the experience enjoyable. NPG members will still

experience the full benefits of being a member.

Prince and the NPG willl interact with the folx that

are putting $ in their pockets. I like artist who are humble

and appreciate their fanbase. Fans will stop

see that complaining will just shut down production.

I don't care about Remasters -My thoughts are on how

I can keep $ in my own pockets.

--------------------------------------

"....That I'm a man who was born to have a mic on
Next to me at all time; ready to kick a rhyme
That will keep me out of financial bind
That's why when it comes to fans I'm never mean
Kids all see me between Gates and Green
Always say hello
Cause I'm a modest fellow
Never try and play a super star that's mellow
Cause if these kids don't go buy our records
We'll be has-beens and plus naked
So we owe them
So pull out your pen
Sign an autograph; you might make a new friend
So just get your boys and bring the noise and just swing it
And party people in the house, sing it..."--Chubb Rock (Treat'em Right)

.

Great post and pretty much agree. However I am going to be VERY hesitiant with shelling out any more $$ for ANOTHER website. That last one (Lotusflower) was SUCH a scam.

whoeeee it sure doesn't - hahaha.

TheEnglishGent said:

Red said:

Another Hit and Run. Another site for a fast dip into your pocket - before he quickly shuts it down. He's done it before. $50 membership x 25,000 peeps makes him a cool $12.5Mill plus whatever he can grab in merchandise - IF you even get the merchandise....

and how many times in the old days, when the parties at Paisley were FREE did he cancel last minute - after peeps paid for airfare and hotels.

Same sheit / Different People.

Something doesn't quite add up here!

[Edited 1/10/13 19:42pm]

dannyd5050 said:

The best part about remastered re-releases is usually the packaging.

I just bought a Duran Duran - Notorious remasters boxset with all the B-sides, Ext versions, and a LIVE CD and DVD!!!

And at $30 a pop, its the best thing Ive bought in years!

Everything in it has been released previously on vinyl and vhs, but I havent seen or heard most of them in a long time because of this very reason!

Much like I havent heard the America 12" ext ver in years. grrr

Sure I can go online and buy a bootleg that has all the 12" mixes that were release by P during his WB years, but I refuse to. Or I could sit at home and search all night for someones best attempt of ripping from vinyl, but I cant be arsed.

But you release it through the proper channels, and I'd make a HUGE effort of buying it as soon as it comes out.!

FFS, the Rolling Stones just released their 600th Best Of packeage, and people are still buying it!

I dont think the RS's management are stupid enough to do this at a loss. So why do they bother with these re-releases!? Maybe P should ask they're management and find out why!?

Oh... and Prince..... you're a dickhead.

TikiColadas said:

dannyd5050 said:

Go Dallas peeps!!

We should Org meet soon!

Dallas Prince fan here! I'd love to join in on a Dallas org gathering. Who all is in Dallas?

Electricberet

OnlyNDaUsa

CallMeCarrie

daPrettyman

dannyd5050 (me)

A couple of others I can't think of right now...

We've gotten together before at Trinity Hall on Mockingbird. Had some drinks and talked Prince.

Stymie said:

Hey Prince. Decide how much you want from your fans. Open a new website and have said fans do a preorder of a CD. If you reach the amount you want, sell them the album. If you don't, don't sell the album. If you are that concerned about getting paid for your work, the folks who would illegally download your music then would no longer matter. [Edited 1/10/13 17:50pm]

Except.... hire out a company that already does this kind of thing for a living. No. Post-It. Notes.

electricberet said:

rdhull said:

Like was presented earlier..he wants them all back at once and even then he is worried about some folks downloading them instead of purchasing them ala napster days etc? So he wont release them?

oh gawd

.

[Edited 1/10/13 17:50pm]

It sounds like he is just frustrated with the issue constantly coming up. Right now, he seems to be heading into a new productive period with Superconductor and some of the other new material we've seen lately. He wants to get that out to the fans. Instead, we're mainly interested in stuff he did 30 years ago. It's like when the former Beatles were trying to have solo careers in the 1970s and all anyone wanted to ask about was a possible Beatles reunion.

I want ALL of it. I want remasters. I want new stuff. I want vault stuff. I want DVDs.

I WANT to pay for all of this. But, I want physical copies. CDs. LPs. DVDs. Blurays.

I'll pay for high quality downloads, if that's the only format he puts it out in, but I'll pay a premium price for physical copies.

I just paid like $16 for the new CD single, even though I already listened to an "illegal" digital copy and even though I'm not impressed with the remixes.

I'm a sucker for a disc I can bring home, it's the quickest way into my wallet.

[Edited 1/10/13 22:07pm]

callimnate said:

Sure I can go online and buy a bootleg that has all the 12" mixes that were release by P during his WB years, but I refuse to. Or I could sit at home and search all night for someones best attempt of ripping from vinyl, but I cant be arsed.

If you have enought knowledge to get online, why the hell would you buy a bootleg?

dannyd5050 said: