funkomatic said:

PurpleKnight said:

My vote goes to anything from The Rainbow Children. I simply can't understand how anyone, in good conscience, can say they enjoy this often-times misogynistic, dogmatic, anti-semitic filth on the sole basis that the music itself sounds good. Who cares if it sounds good if its words are vile almost all over? When people praise this album while simultaneously acknowledging that the lyrics are repulsive and denying the importance of that fact, it makes me think Prince fans would be fine if he released an album promoting any doctrine as long as the music sounded good.

Quite easy to explain. You can hear inspiration and passion on TRC, whereas later albums sound like they were just the result of Prince doing a job.

THAT,

OldFriends4Sale said:

TheEnglishGent said:

What is there to understand? The lyrics are nothing, he's just yakking about a dance, they don't speak to me. Honestly, if he churned out lyrics like these today you'd all slaughter him. The music doesn't move me, nothing more to say. In fact, you can put it right there with the other songs where he wants you to do a dance, yep I'm sticking it there with Jughead and Horny Pony.

cool, but my question was not to you... Dazza is a different person

what turns you off about it may be different from someone else

Ah, wasn't clear. We both said we didn't get something. Housequake for me, Delirious for him.

Kiss.

Every time I hear it the Tom Jones version splutters into my head and all I can think of is a sweaty Welshman wiping his forehead on still-warm panties.

ladycat said:

Stymie said:

banks said:

because i agree

Hot damn!

I should have made love to you down by the fire when we met.

International lover off the 1999

I think the high searing synth line is a little too much for me. and the cheesy airplane talk

just knocks the tru emotion out of it. feels like a spoof.

SuperSoulFighter said:

I would define "acclaimed" as famous songs/albums that are praised by both critics and fans. That's why I didnt include Rainbow Children in my first post, simply because opinions are so divided on it, even tho' I completely agree with PurpleKnight on this one. Back to the critically acclaimed old stuff! I used to like Housequake, but these days, when I hear it, I'm like, where is the BASS?!?!?! How can you have a funk track with the bass just buried in the mix? Maybe remasters wouldn't be a bad idea, Princey?

But there're many bass-less funk songs by him. Maybe that was the characteristic he wanted for these songs.

OldFriends4Sale said:

TheEnglishGent said:

What is there to understand? The lyrics are nothing, he's just yakking about a dance, they don't speak to me. Honestly, if he churned out lyrics like these today you'd all slaughter him. The music doesn't move me, nothing more to say. In fact, you can put it right there with the other songs where he wants you to do a dance, yep I'm sticking it there with Jughead and Horny Pony.

cool, but my question was not to you... Dazza is a different person

Just because I asked the question doesn't mean I like the song or I'm defending it

It's never been one of my favorites, but I think it's cool, and I seriously don't think Jughead or Horny Pony are even close to being in the same catagory

what turns you off about it may be different from someone else

Delirious, to me is a more playful kind of Little Red Corvette, because of his references to cars

It's fun, it's rockabilly. It's Prince showing how he could do a 50's song to play along with Little Richard and Chuck Berry in a ball. Same with When You Were Mine and Jack U Off.

This is an essential part of his repertoire, since he showed he could excel in yet another genre.

ladycat said:

Kiss.

Every time I hear it the Tom Jones version splutters into my head and all I can think of is a sweaty Welshman wiping his forehead on still-warm panties.

Ok ok but that's because you associate another, poor version of the song to it. That's not fair for Prince's Kiss to put it on Tom Jones hot sweat!

Kiss...never cared for ...remember buying the single and then prefering the love or money b-side much more....

BrazilianOnRaspberryBeret said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

cool, but my question was not to you... Dazza is a different person

Just because I asked the question doesn't mean I like the song or I'm defending it

It's never been one of my favorites, but I think it's cool, and I seriously don't think Jughead or Horny Pony are even close to being in the same catagory

what turns you off about it may be different from someone else

Delirious, to me is a more playful kind of Little Red Corvette, because of his references to cars

It's fun, it's rockabilly. It's Prince showing how he could do a 50's song to play along with Little Richard and Chuck Berry in a ball. Same with When You Were Mine and Jack U Off.

This is an essential part of his repertoire, since he showed he could excel in yet another genre.

True, I love it live too

I like how they mixed Let's Go Crazy into it on some Purple Rain tour shows

It has a nice build to it as well

101 said:

Kiss...never cared for ...remember buying the single and then prefering the love or money b-side much more....

REALLY?!?! Love or money over Kiss WOW....

101 said:

Kiss...never cared for ...remember buying the single and then prefering the love or money b-side much more....

Ditto.

I hate all acclaimed Prince songs,

- incl. these:

I Wanna Be Your Lover,

Raspberry beret,

If I Was Your Girlfriend,

When Doves Cry,

Purple Rain,

Little Red Corvette,

Pop Life,

Sign O The Times,

1999,

U Got The Look,

I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man,

Nothing Compares 2 U,

Kiss,

Anotherloverholenyohead,

Thieves In The Temple,

Gett Off

Oh these are soooo baaad:

I have heard them all to death, too much,

these Prince-songs are really doing nothing for me,

especially I believe Prince had no writing skills back then compared to albums like Musicology and Planet Earth.

But, actually, I only like these 3 Prince songs:

Orgasm,

Graffiti Bridge (the song),

and of course: Jughead.

WHAT A CRAP THREAD, sorry. Nothing personally, just saying.

^ Some blinders in there! http://www.despicable.org

thedance said:

I hate all acclaimed Prince songs,

- incl. these:

I Wanna Be Your Lover,

Raspberry beret,

If I Was Your Girlfriend,

When Doves Cry,

Purple Rain,

Little Red Corvette,

Pop Life,

Sign O The Times,

1999,

U Got The Look,

I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man,

Nothing Compares 2 U,

Kiss,

Anotherloverholenyohead,

Thieves In The Temple,

Gett Off

Oh these are soooo baaad:

I have heard them all to death, too much,

these Prince-songs are really doing nothing for me,

especially I believe Prince had no writing skills back then compared to albums like Musicology and Planet Earth.

But, actually, I only like these 3 Prince songs:

Orgasm,

Graffiti Bridge (the song),

and of course: Jughead.

WHAT A CRAP THREAD, sorry. Nothing personally, just saying.

the use of hyperboles to underline sarcasm is so underrated right?!...

if not...

[Edited 11/29/12 15:26pm]

I can't stand Thunder or any other song where he preofesses his love for god.

controversy99 said:

PurpleKnight said:

A Million Days? Guitar? Incense and Candles?! Am I in Bizarro World? Since when are these Prince songs highly acclaimed? Incense and Candles was viciously panned by most Prince fans.

My vote goes to anything from The Rainbow Children. I simply can't understand how anyone, in good conscience, can say they enjoy this often-times misogynistic, dogmatic, anti-semitic filth on the sole basis that the music itself sounds good. Who cares if it sounds good if its words are vile almost all over? When people praise this album while simultaneously acknowledging that the lyrics are repulsive and denying the importance of that fact, it makes me think Prince fans would be fine if he released an album promoting any doctrine as long as the music sounded good.

THANK YOU!!! Exactly right. That album almost made me stop being a Prince fan. The lyrics are part of the album and can't be overlooked. Thankfully he hasn't expressed anything along those lines since. I do wonder how much of it he believes today, but the fact that he doesn't play anything from it anymore is a good sign.

I can overlook 'em! In fact, in eleven years, I've never known what the fuck he's talking about on that record - I've never read the lyric sheet, and I hope I never find out what's written there. I just love the tunes!

But nothing on TRC is really 'acclaimed', so yeah, I'm gonna throw my lot in with the Batdance crowd - possibly the most embarrassing Prince hit single ever.

nyse said:

International lover off the 1999

I think the high searing synth line is a little too much for me. and the cheesy airplane talk

just knocks the tru emotion out of it. feels like a spoof.

Dont forget that this song is now 30 years old.

Yes. Today it sounds cheesy.

But fmd back then, you could make a girl cum just by having it playing in the background!

controversy99 said:

PurpleKnight said:

A Million Days? Guitar? Incense and Candles?! Am I in Bizarro World? Since when are these Prince songs highly acclaimed? Incense and Candles was viciously panned by most Prince fans.

My vote goes to anything from The Rainbow Children. I simply can't understand how anyone, in good conscience, can say they enjoy this often-times misogynistic, dogmatic, anti-semitic filth on the sole basis that the music itself sounds good. Who cares if it sounds good if its words are vile almost all over? When people praise this album while simultaneously acknowledging that the lyrics are repulsive and denying the importance of that fact, it makes me think Prince fans would be fine if he released an album promoting any doctrine as long as the music sounded good.

THANK YOU!!! Exactly right. That album almost made me stop being a Prince fan. The lyrics are part of the album and can't be overlooked. Thankfully he hasn't expressed anything along those lines since. I do wonder how much of it he believes today, but the fact that he doesn't play anything from it anymore is a good sign.

Oh both of you are kind of full of it. Such a terrible record and yet here you are. With Prince induced names at that.

I tell you if Radiohead started some black people this black people that etc Id throw out all the records and I damn sure wouldnt be on a website dedicated to their music.

So in essence either it isnt that bad as yall make it or you all are some obsessed and okay with anything he says as you claim others who praise TRC are.

.

[Edited 11/29/12 18:34pm]

callimnate said:

nyse said:

International lover off the 1999

I think the high searing synth line is a little too much for me. and the cheesy airplane talk

just knocks the tru emotion out of it. feels like a spoof.

Dont forget that this song is now 30 years old.

Yes. Today it sounds cheesy.

But fmd back then, you could make a girl cum just by having it playing in the background!

I dont think it sounds cheesy at all,

anyone who doesnt like the lp cut needs to listen to the 1999tour or PRtour live versions

Alphabet Street.

BrazilianOnRaspberryBeret said:

PurpleKnight said:

Yeah, I love tapping my foot to words like "Holocaust aside, many lived and died" or "Ain't no room for disagree."

Let's dance! Throw on that awesome Prince song! "There's a theocratic order"

Yeah! Funky!

I get and agree with your point. But don't you think the Cross, from SOTT, besides the good melody and singing, was hinting on something strictly religious like this, way back in 87? It's not dogmatic, but it was already strictly Christian.

There you go; it wasn't dogmatic. I don't connect with songs about any particular religion, but Christianity in itself isn't necessarily offensive. One of my favourite philosophers is Kierkegaard, a Christian, despite the fact that I self-identify as an atheist.

rdhull said:

controversy99 said:

PurpleKnight said: THANK YOU!!! Exactly right. That album almost made me stop being a Prince fan. The lyrics are part of the album and can't be overlooked. Thankfully he hasn't expressed anything along those lines since. I do wonder how much of it he believes today, but the fact that he doesn't play anything from it anymore is a good sign.

Oh both of you are kind of full of it. Such a terrible record and yet here you are. With Prince induced names at that.

I tell you if Radiohead started some black people this black people that etc Id throw out all the records and I damn sure wouldnt be on a website dedicated to their music.

So in essence either it isnt that bad as yall make it or you all are some obsessed and okay with anything he says as you claim others who praise TRC are.

.

[Edited 11/29/12 18:34pm]

Where is the contradiction in enjoying Prince albums that are not offensive to what I believe? The only contradiction would lie in me financially supporting Prince, but I haven't bought anything related to Prince since TRC.

There is also no contradiction in talking about someone whose beliefs you find offensive unless you praise the person. I do not praise Prince Rogers Nelson. I praise the artistic brilliance of his older works.

OldFriends4Sale said:

funkomatic said:

Quite easy to explain. You can hear inspiration and passion on TRC, whereas later albums sound like they were just the result of Prince doing a job.

THAT,

Yes, and? The most inspiration and passion I've personally ever heard was a speech I watched on TV by Adolf Hitler. That doesn't mean I can enjoy the speech and just ignore the meaning of the content. No, I am not saying TRC is purely hateful. I am simply stating that the meaning of the content ought to matter. To deny that is superficial and ignorant.

[Edited 11/29/12 21:14pm]

I don't know if Black Sweat is acclaimed by Prince fans but i do not like that song...at all.

JoeyC said:

I don't know if Black Sweat is acclaimed by Prince fans but i do not like that song...at all.

It's proper doggy do do. Lot of people love it somehow.

I can't stand TMBGITW either. Utter drivel.

[Edited 11/30/12 0:53am]

maja2405 said:

thedance said:

I hate all acclaimed Prince songs,

- incl. these:

I Wanna Be Your Lover,

Raspberry beret,

If I Was Your Girlfriend,

When Doves Cry,

Purple Rain,

Little Red Corvette,

Pop Life,

Sign O The Times,

1999,

U Got The Look,

I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man,

Nothing Compares 2 U,

Kiss,

Anotherloverholenyohead,

Thieves In The Temple,

Gett Off

Oh these are soooo baaad:

I have heard them all to death, too much,

these Prince-songs are really doing nothing for me,

especially I believe Prince had no writing skills back then compared to albums like Musicology and Planet Earth.

But, actually, I only like these 3 Prince songs:

Orgasm,

Graffiti Bridge (the song),

and of course: Jughead.

WHAT A CRAP THREAD, sorry. Nothing personally, just saying.

the use of hyperboles to underline sarcasm is so underrated right?!...

if not...

^

yes: sarcasm/ irony... -- I did not like the other posts in this thread,

and therefor --- my post --- was ironic.. wasn't serious.

PurpleKnight said:

BrazilianOnRaspberryBeret said:

THAT,

Yes, and? The most inspiration and passion I've personally ever heard was a speech I watched on TV by Adolf Hitler. That doesn't mean I can enjoy the speech and just ignore the meaning of the content. No, I am not saying TRC is purely hateful. I am simply stating that the meaning of the content ought to matter. To deny that is superficial and ignorant.

[Edited 11/29/12 21:14pm]

That's only if you really listen to the lyrics, which in 1/2 the songs he riddles out the lyrics that I don't try to hear it, only a few songs do I sorta know the lyrics:Rainbow Children, She Loves me 4 Me, Everywhere, the Feast(?) the rest is a mix of Princefables (most of that isn't even JW doctrine) there is prob more reference to Egyptology that JW add to that, that Prince created some kind of story with characters, I don't know what he is saying

So it's not superficial, ignorant only in that I have not searched out the lyrics

and his statement still stands:You can hear inspiration and passion on TRC, whereas later albums sound like they were just the result of Prince doing a job.