The inconsistency is still there.

My first time was 2010, which was mediocre. One year later he lit Antwerp on fire.

I really don't think some of the comments here are really thought out. If he is SO bad, and horrible, why really stick around? I get observing, but being settled in wonder does no good...IMO

I mean, Prince is an amazing performer...THE ONA is amazing stuff. He was simply on fire during this time. But he changes, he grows...I don't think he intentionally goes through the motions..BUT he has been doing this for years! He has to change it up and he does.

I for one, would like him to not really 'cover' songs. He really does have too much material to do that...He should just perform his songs, but at the same time he seems like he does it because it pays homage to whoever inspired him, and that can't be bad right? He really like funky music, regardless who it is from...It's just us fans rather him play his music..ALL the time. Which is not bad either.. lol

Imagine if Prince never covered songs again, and song at any given rate a random song like 'Tangerine'

THAT WOULD BE AMAZING!

EyeJester7 said:

I really don't think some of the comments here are really thought out. If he is SO bad, and horrible, why really stick around? I get observing, but being settled in wonder does no good...IMO

I mean, Prince is an amazing performer...THE ONA is amazing stuff. He was simply on fire during this time. But he changes, he grows...I don't think he intentionally goes through the motions..BUT he has been doing this for years! He has to change it up and he does.

I for one, would like him to not really 'cover' songs. He really does have too much material to do that...He should just perform his songs, but at the same time he seems like he does it because it pays homage to whoever inspired him, and that can't be bad right? He really like funky music, regardless who it is from...It's just us fans rather him play his music..ALL the time. Which is not bad either.. lol

Imagine if Prince never covered songs again, and song at any given rate a random song like 'Tangerine'

THAT WOULD BE AMAZING!

You realise that once these guys begin to perform cover songs, there is something very weird going on.

I read few articles on other superstars and there was so much critism cause they covered 1 -2 songs. Prince does almost nothing but cover songs. Go figure!

KingSausage said:

Why were the 1997-2000ish shows so bad?

because 1997-2000 was Prince's nadir (some might say 1996-2000)

a nadir in terms of studio albums, live performances, personal life, relationship with the fans and the media, image/style, etc.

Paris9748430 said:

vitriol said:

Anyway, just after ONA Prince started a decline which made the 96-2001 time frame a virtual masterpiece compared to the the unbearable greatest hits and terrible covers stuff he's offering until today. And his albums get worse and worse and worse.

I'd really wish he'd retire.

It also started probably the 2nd most successful period in his career.

Maybe you should just retire from life.

Ooops, you just snatched that wig, bald!!

EyeJester7 said:

I really don't think some of the comments here are really thought out. If he is SO bad, and horrible, why really stick around? I get observing, but being settled in wonder does no good...IMO

This place is a buffet of ass!

You can get sex CONSTANTLY up in the org.

It's the craigstlist of the Internet. All ben needs to do is add a gloryhole forum.

EyeJester7 said:

I really don't think some of the comments here are really thought out. If he is SO bad, and horrible, why really stick around?

I have every circulating concert and every circulating outtake. Sometimes you just work in auto mode when it comes to grabbing and archiving stuff; but at the time of really enjoying the stuff I haven't liked a (live) performance since the ONA tour and I haven't liked ONE fucking studio album since Musicology (included).

Why really stick around? Well, the same as I am absolutely bored with the current Prince I'm all for vintage stuff, especially studio outtakes.

So as long as some gems keep on surfacing (and there's much more than meets the 'ear') I'll be ready to jump on them.

Current Prince? NO, thanks.

imago said:

EyeJester7 said:

I really don't think some of the comments here are really thought out. If he is SO bad, and horrible, why really stick around? I get observing, but being settled in wonder does no good...IMO

This place is a buffet of ass!

You can get sex CONSTANTLY up in the org.

It's the craigstlist of the Internet. All ben needs to do is add a gloryhole forum.

x 10 grand!

OzlemUcucu said:

EyeJester7 said:

I really don't think some of the comments here are really thought out. If he is SO bad, and horrible, why really stick around? I get observing, but being settled in wonder does no good...IMO

I mean, Prince is an amazing performer...THE ONA is amazing stuff. He was simply on fire during this time. But he changes, he grows...I don't think he intentionally goes through the motions..BUT he has been doing this for years! He has to change it up and he does.

I for one, would like him to not really 'cover' songs. He really does have too much material to do that...He should just perform his songs, but at the same time he seems like he does it because it pays homage to whoever inspired him, and that can't be bad right? He really like funky music, regardless who it is from...It's just us fans rather him play his music..ALL the time. Which is not bad either.. lol

Imagine if Prince never covered songs again, and song at any given rate a random song like 'Tangerine'

THAT WOULD BE AMAZING!

You realise that once these guys begin to perform cover songs, there is something very weird going on.

I read few articles on other superstars and there was so much critism cause they covered 1 -2 songs. Prince does almost nothing but cover songs. Go figure!

yes but that's all a part of prince's grand scheme of educating his audience by playing them songs

the he grew up with from bands he thinks we should all know.

i say: educate the audience on your deep album cuts or one off indi releases that they haven't yet

heard about if they're made up of so many 'casual' fans who just come for a nice night.

casual fans like the hits, sure, but i'm sure they'd rather have the hits backed with prince songs or

prince songs he penned for others, instead of 1/4 of the show be covers.

who else does that? and all these other band members singing enough already.

I agree he should play more Prince songs instead of covers but I really enjoyed his 2010 tour and my wife who never went 2 a Prince concert be4 thought it was a great concert and was pleased he played so many hits she knew. So, it´s just what U prefer 2 hear or how much a fan U are.

I saw the Cool/Let´s work vid and I wish I had seen that live...

Anyway, I agree on the fact that his albums AND live shows weren´t that great in the second half of the 90´s. TGE tour had no hits so we didn´t know the songs (album not released yet!) and I´ve seen the NPS tour and it was my first "good" instead of great concert. The 2000 DVD is boring....4 a Prince concert anyway!

I missed the ONA tour but when I see footage of that tour and the tour after; Musicology!!...that´s a whole other show..U can see he got better and better! He plays, laughs and interacts with his audience, something he didn´t do as often in the early 90´s concerts I´ve seen.

As a longtime fan I say, besides of U like his setlist or not, he´s at his best since 2001..live,

as a musician and performer. His "Warner" years were great but this last decade also.

[Edited 9/4/12 12:36pm]

[Edited 9/4/12 12:40pm]

vitriol said:

Bohemian67 said:

Well why on earth else would you want him to retire? What's it to you?

It's very simple. I'm ASHAMED of what he's doing.

As much as of your post.

So if I understand you correctly, Prince's behaviour shames you? And.... a post from an anonymous virtual forum uses has the same effect? I fail to see the link but you would probably understand better than I. It seems as if you've set yourself up for a self fulfilling prophecy that you will mostly be disappointed except for the gems that 'might' pop up of old intakes.

What is it about the gems that motivate you so much to stick around, despite the heavy feelings that come with the in your eyes, 'rest of the rubbish'?

IstenSzek said:

OzlemUcucu said:

You realise that once these guys begin to perform cover songs, there is something very weird going on.

I read few articles on other superstars and there was so much critism cause they covered 1 -2 songs. Prince does almost nothing but cover songs. Go figure!

yes but that's all a part of prince's grand scheme of educating his audience by playing them songs

the he grew up with from bands he thinks we should all know.

i say: educate the audience on your deep album cuts or one off indi releases that they haven't yet

heard about if they're made up of so many 'casual' fans who just come for a nice night.

casual fans like the hits, sure, but i'm sure they'd rather have the hits backed with prince songs or

prince songs he penned for others, instead of 1/4 of the show be covers.

who else does that? and all these other band members singing enough already.

It's just his lame excuse for performing cover songs. Nobody asked him to educate the masses about nostalgia acts.

Fact we do know today is Prince is over as an album releasing artist. He'll do gigs forever until everyone is fed up of him, and he'll do more cover songs to sell tickets.

He's ovah

OzlemUcucu said:

IstenSzek said:

yes but that's all a part of prince's grand scheme of educating his audience by playing them songs

the he grew up with from bands he thinks we should all know.

i say: educate the audience on your deep album cuts or one off indi releases that they haven't yet

heard about if they're made up of so many 'casual' fans who just come for a nice night.

casual fans like the hits, sure, but i'm sure they'd rather have the hits backed with prince songs or

prince songs he penned for others, instead of 1/4 of the show be covers.

who else does that? and all these other band members singing enough already.

It's just his lame excuse for performing cover songs. Nobody asked him to educate the masses about nostalgia acts.

Fact we do know today is Prince is over as an album releasing artist. He'll do gigs forever until everyone is fed up of him, and he'll do more cover songs to sell tickets.

He's ovah

yes but prince expects us to bring our children, cousins or nieces to his shows to show him how

a real musician performs. and in the process he wants to get them to sample some sly. well, he

also just wants to kick some royalties larry's way i guess. aaaaanywho. for every child in that

arena there are likely 750 adults who just want to see prime time prince, including album cuts,

excluding cover versions of other people's songs (except when it's a good, quirky choise and a

different song for every tour) and least of all they want backing singers taking up 1/5 of a main

show.

prince knows this. he knows all of that. in fact, if he went to someone else's show and they did

this, he'd be calling them after and bitch about it

i just don't understand his logic. at all. he'll spend 15 minutes hammering on about how he's got

too many hits and too little time and then he'll spend 20 minutes on cover versions, and let his

backing singers sing the lead on them

or like with the ONA tour, he'd be all "if you've come to get your purple rain on, you're in the

wrong house!" and then 15 minutes later he just performs purple rain and let's go crazy

wouldn't it be a better idea to just perform more of his own songs, in their entirety and then do

those god awfull done to death covers as a sampler set? lol. preferably as an encore so you can

slip out the backdoor discretely as shelby starts to run around yelling 'put your hands up".

OzlemUcucu said:

IstenSzek said:

yes but that's all a part of prince's grand scheme of educating his audience by playing them songs

the he grew up with from bands he thinks we should all know.

i say: educate the audience on your deep album cuts or one off indi releases that they haven't yet

heard about if they're made up of so many 'casual' fans who just come for a nice night.

casual fans like the hits, sure, but i'm sure they'd rather have the hits backed with prince songs or

prince songs he penned for others, instead of 1/4 of the show be covers.

who else does that? and all these other band members singing enough already.

It's just his lame excuse for performing cover songs. Nobody asked him to educate the masses about nostalgia acts.

Fact we do know today is Prince is over as an album releasing artist. He'll do gigs forever until everyone is fed up of him, and he'll do more cover songs to sell tickets.

He's ovah

U know what? some "fans" of Kiss and Van Halen say the same things these days and wine about the "original" line up and "this is a cover band", the new album isn´t that great, we miss this and that, he can´t sing anymore and so on...

It´s ok if someone is tired of his fav artists, just go out there and find something new!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are U as good and the same as in the 80´s?? Don´t think so! Well, imo Prince IS still great live but please..safe your money 4 your kids or so..

Thank U!

[Edited 9/7/12 22:55pm]

EyeJester7 said:

I really don't think some of the comments here are really thought out. If he is SO bad, and horrible, why really stick around?

I really don't think your comment right there was really thought out either. I read this type of thing on here almost daily. "Why stick around? Why don't you leave?" Why should people who don't like what Prince is doing in a certain period of his career not stick around? Prince's career spans more than 30 years, a fact that seems to completely leave people at times. What happens if certain people want to discuss something about Prince and/or his music from the 80's, or the 90's? Or some other aspect of his career? You get the idea? I see nowhere on this site or in the site rules that state that this site is exclusive to people who like his recent output only. Or his last 5 albums or whatever.

Many people who are regulars on this site have been Prince fans for many years. Why should they leave the site (and some comments do state such a thing) because someone else does not like the fact that not everyone likes what their new favourite pop star is doing this week?

I'm not attacking your comment personally, just the type of comment that you made, and is made by people on here almost daily. I don't need to tell you that everyone is different and has different taste, that's healthy. Asking someone why they are still on this site or why they don't just leave because they may dislike (or even loathe) some aspect of the man or his career is just silly.

TheDigitalGardener said:

EyeJester7 said:

I really don't think some of the comments here are really thought out. If he is SO bad, and horrible, why really stick around?

I really don't think your comment right there was really thought out either. I read this type of thing on here almost daily. "Why stick around? Why don't you leave?" Why should people who don't like what Prince is doing in a certain period of his career not stick around? Prince's career spans more than 30 years, a fact that seems to completely leave people at times. What happens if certain people want to discuss something about Prince and/or his music from the 80's, or the 90's? Or some other aspect of his career? You get the idea? I see nowhere on this site or in the site rules that state that this site is exclusive to people who like his recent output only. Or his last 5 albums or whatever.

Many people who are regulars on this site have been Prince fans for many years. Why should they leave the site (and some comments do state such a thing) because someone else does not like the fact that not everyone likes what their new favourite pop star is doing this week?

I'm not attacking your comment personally, just the type of comment that you made, and is made by people on here almost daily. I don't need to tell you that everyone is different and has different taste, that's healthy. Asking someone why they are still on this site or why they don't just leave because they may dislike (or even loathe) some aspect of the man or his career is just silly.

the problem i see is that a lot on here now dont' like when u express how u feel and dismantle their hero. there is a huge contridiction on this site too with threads like this where it may be a persons view point then comes in the saviours 2 defend him but go on another thread and say what u think and ur a troll, or a hater. well shouldn't the "hero saviours" be considered a troll if they come into a thread like this? food 4 thought.

IstenSzek said:

OzlemUcucu said:

It's just his lame excuse for performing cover songs. Nobody asked him to educate the masses about nostalgia acts.

Fact we do know today is Prince is over as an album releasing artist. He'll do gigs forever until everyone is fed up of him, and he'll do more cover songs to sell tickets.

He's ovah

yes but prince expects us to bring our children, cousins or nieces to his shows to show him how

a real musician performs. and in the process he wants to get them to sample some sly. well, he

also just wants to kick some royalties larry's way i guess. aaaaanywho. for every child in that

arena there are likely 750 adults who just want to see prime time prince, including album cuts,

excluding cover versions of other people's songs (except when it's a good, quirky choise and a

different song for every tour) and least of all they want backing singers taking up 1/5 of a main

show.

prince knows this. he knows all of that. in fact, if he went to someone else's show and they did

this, he'd be calling them after and bitch about it

i just don't understand his logic. at all. he'll spend 15 minutes hammering on about how he's got

too many hits and too little time and then he'll spend 20 minutes on cover versions, and let his

backing singers sing the lead on them

or like with the ONA tour, he'd be all "if you've come to get your purple rain on, you're in the

wrong house!" and then 15 minutes later he just performs purple rain and let's go crazy

wouldn't it be a better idea to just perform more of his own songs, in their entirety and then do

those god awfull done to death covers as a sampler set? lol. preferably as an encore so you can

slip out the backdoor discretely as shelby starts to run around yelling 'put your hands up".

That's cause he has no clue what he is talking about. The reason why he records all of his performances, so he can see what the heck he was doing on stage. He's automated. He talks cause he's gotta talk as an entertainer, but he does something different. None of his talk on stage should be taken seriously.

His cover songs make no sense no more. He's gotta stop the stupidity.