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Thread started 08/11/12 10:26pm

Nivivrus

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Diamonds and Pearls appreciation thread

While I don't think that D&P holds up to Prince's 80's output, I have to admit, this is one enjoyable CD. I was just wondering what people thought of the album overall, I think it's a nice album though it does sound like Prince was trying to have a hit with this one... That's not to say that's a bad thing, after all it is nice when an artist tries to make music everyone can enjoy, but here I feel like his artistic ability was thrown in the backseat and that he just wanted airplay on the radio. Just my 2 cents, I wrote a brief review of the album on my tumblr about the album in a song by song review (http://enewwave.tumblr.co...amonds-and) it's just something I wrote while lounging with some friends so the grammer is probably far from perfect and some song reviews might feel a bit incomplete, but I think it gets my point across rather well. What do you think of the album?

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Reply #1 posted 08/12/12 10:09am

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It was alright in '92. I can't really say that I have listened to it as an entire album since then.

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Reply #2 posted 08/12/12 11:53am

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I like the singles a lot...

Gett Off

Cream

D&P, title track

Money Don't Matter

Insatiable

Thunder..

Daddy Pop and Live 4 Love are ok as well.

Never listening to the cd though...

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Reply #3 posted 08/12/12 1:36pm

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thedance said:

I like the singles a lot...

Gett Off

Cream

D&P, title track

Money Don't Matter

Insatiable

Thunder..

Daddy Pop and Live 4 Love are ok as well.

Never listening to the cd though...

I used to really like Cream, it just got old for me though. Money Don't Matter is a gem of a song, I just feel like it didn't really belong in that package. Like it's the only downbeat song in an otherwise very upbeat album (in my opinion). That's not to say its bad, but it's just weird how one second we're listening to Tony M. slap a manager for wanting to make money off of his work, then it goes into this whole song about how Money doesn't matter. Just seemed weird to me.

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Reply #4 posted 08/12/12 5:12pm

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The title track is just pure genius, even with the trying-to-be-hip middle part.

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Reply #5 posted 08/12/12 8:48pm

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I have mixed feelings about it.

Not one of my favorites, even at the time it was released. Loved GB and 0(+> though.

Diamonds and Pearls sounded to me like Prince playing for people who weren't fans. For that reason, maybe, I used to like to play it for people who weren't necessarily fans to show them that hey, Prince isn't so weird all the time.

Sounds good today to my ears. Since it's not the last album he did, I can appreciate it for what it is.

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Reply #6 posted 08/13/12 12:16am

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It's definitely got commercial written all over it no doubt. I need to be in the right mood to enjoy some of the tracks, but Diamonds and Pearls the song is pretty epic. I truly think this has to be one of Prince's most dated CD's pureply because it appeals to the whole new jack rap phase of the early 90's, whereas most of his other albums are pretty timeless

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Reply #7 posted 08/13/12 8:45am

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I like the album a lot, except for "Daddy Pop", "Walk Don't Walk" and "Push".

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Reply #8 posted 08/13/12 9:04am

Hanklin

Diamond & Pearls the song, is angel music.

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Reply #9 posted 08/13/12 12:16pm

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I like this album, as long as I can block out the existence of "Jughead" and "Walk Don't Walk".

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Reply #10 posted 08/13/12 2:26pm

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I quite like Walk Don't Walk myself but Willing & Able is where it's AT.

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Reply #11 posted 08/13/12 6:21pm

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This was perhaps the first time I had felt real disapointment in a Prince album.

It was compounded by the release of Gett Off as the first single and video, which made it seem as though Prince was getting back to some wilder material. The B-side Horny Pony seemed to confirm that assumption.

And then came the album, which was imo at least half comprised of material that ranked far below the quality of many of his previous b-sides, and certainly that of much of his best unreleased stuff.

I found Thunder and Daddy Pop to be silly and embarrasingly weak.

Live 4 Love was cumbersome, hardly worth slogging through to get to the guitar solo.

I never cared much for Insatiable, thought it was one of his weaker ballads.

Cream is ok fun, but I'm hardly the first to point out it's a rewrite of Bang A Gong.

Diamonds and Pearls is passable cheese. Walk Don't Walk less so.

The less said about the superflous addition of Tony M the better, but as others have noted, Jughead was easily a song ripe for the very back of the vault where only spiders ever visit and there's a constant drip.

There are moments as always. Willing and Able is great, Money Don't Matter Tonight...but I much preferred the symbol album a year later, a hell of a lot funkier and more interesting with better songs, IMO.

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Reply #12 posted 08/13/12 6:35pm

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eugny1 said:

This was perhaps the first time I had felt real disapointment in a Prince album.

It was compounded by the release of Gett Off as the first single and video, which made it seem as though Prince was getting back to some wilder material. The B-side Horny Pony seemed to confirm that assumption.

And then came the album, which was imo at least half comprised of material that ranked far below the quality of many of his previous b-sides, and certainly that of much of his best unreleased stuff.

I found Thunder and Daddy Pop to be silly and embarrasingly weak.

Live 4 Love was cumbersome, hardly worth slogging through to get to the guitar solo.

I never cared much for Insatiable, thought it was one of his weaker ballads.

Cream is ok fun, but I'm hardly the first to point out it's a rewrite of Bang A Gong.

Diamonds and Pearls is passable cheese. Walk Don't Walk less so.

The less said about the superflous addition of Tony M the better, but as others have noted, Jughead was easily a song ripe for the very back of the vault where only spiders ever visit and there's a constant drip.

There are moments as always. Willing and Able is great, Money Don't Matter Tonight...but I much preferred the symbol album a year later, a hell of a lot funkier and more interesting with better songs, IMO.

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It doesn't even seem/sound like a Prince album imo.

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Reply #13 posted 08/13/12 7:32pm

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rdhull said:

eugny1 said:

This was perhaps the first time I had felt real disapointment in a Prince album.

It was compounded by the release of Gett Off as the first single and video, which made it seem as though Prince was getting back to some wilder material. The B-side Horny Pony seemed to confirm that assumption.

And then came the album, which was imo at least half comprised of material that ranked far below the quality of many of his previous b-sides, and certainly that of much of his best unreleased stuff.

I found Thunder and Daddy Pop to be silly and embarrasingly weak.

Live 4 Love was cumbersome, hardly worth slogging through to get to the guitar solo.

I never cared much for Insatiable, thought it was one of his weaker ballads.

Cream is ok fun, but I'm hardly the first to point out it's a rewrite of Bang A Gong.

Diamonds and Pearls is passable cheese. Walk Don't Walk less so.

The less said about the superflous addition of Tony M the better, but as others have noted, Jughead was easily a song ripe for the very back of the vault where only spiders ever visit and there's a constant drip.

There are moments as always. Willing and Able is great, Money Don't Matter Tonight...but I much preferred the symbol album a year later, a hell of a lot funkier and more interesting with better songs, IMO.

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It doesn't even seem/sound like a Prince album imo.

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Reply #14 posted 08/13/12 8:24pm

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Some great moments & memories associated w this album

However looking back on it it is like he was trying 2 write an album 2 appeal 2 people who like C&C Music Factory, Vanilla Ice, MC Hammer, etc
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Reply #15 posted 08/13/12 9:55pm

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Jughead!

But also great memories of the 1992 shows at the Rotterdam Ahoy...

At least this was a decent tour where he played his new stuff like he menat it. He even showcased some `new song` every now and then. (Damn U)

Now ask him to do a similar thing in 2012...

I mean: even Larry does the same thing by rerecording stuff on his latest album.

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Reply #16 posted 08/14/12 2:50am

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I think it's a great album. Holds a lot of good memories for me simply because it was the era when I discovered Prince properly. It's definitely dated and there's no doubt that he was trying (and failing in parts) to stay up to date.

But as with many of his albums, if you took the songs at face value - ie/ minus the horrible early-90's production - there's some superb tracks on there.

I really like the whole era - the look, the tunes, the live stuff...

Let's just not think about rollerskates and mankinis.

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Reply #17 posted 08/14/12 4:43am

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Reply #18 posted 08/14/12 5:08am

Cthulhu

Last week i bought THE D&P dvd with THE clips and some live footage. Watched it yesterday andit was quite dated. Tony M is something that has been THE focal point of discussions and well we all know why.

THE album, well i didnt like it back then although i liked get off. Nowadays i can appreciate THE album.
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Reply #19 posted 08/15/12 11:47am

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Reply #20 posted 08/15/12 11:56am

mushmackalenta

I've been revisiting it and Symbol just lately and for they are both great albums.

I prefer this period to the 1993-1995 stuff.

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Reply #21 posted 08/16/12 5:20am

Scotsman1999

I think this album gets alot of criticism that it doesn't really deserve. Prince put alot of work into making this album a hit, and it certainly was. The D+P tour was my first chance of seeing him live so perhaps I'm slightly biased, but I love most of the tracks on the album. Thunder was a great concert opener, for when he entered via that tube, with all the sound effects...such an incredible moment in my life! I LOVE the bit in Daddy Pop once it breaks down towards the Tony M rap...after he says "One in a long line who wanna see me". The bass in that section is mad and almost blew my speakers.. I don't have such an aversion to Jughead either to be honest.. The videos for this album were great..Cream and the title track had arguably the slickest videos of his career. This album marked truly the last point where Prince was commercially viable and had mass market appeal....he pulled out all the stops on this one, and I miss those days of him being in the charts and 'popular'.
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Reply #22 posted 08/16/12 9:09am

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I was still sour over the loss of the Lovesexy band, I wasn't feeling Prince at this moment

and seeing the Prince of Paisley Park doc around this time, didn't help

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Reply #23 posted 08/16/12 12:03pm

Tremolina

Bring it back to 10 tracks by ditching the subpar, distracting and annoying Daddy Pop, Jughead and Push and you have a terrific album:

  1. Thunder
  2. Diamonds and pearls
  3. Cream
  4. Strolling
  5. Willing and able
  6. Gett off
  7. Walk don't walk
  8. Money don't matter tonight
  9. Insatiable
  10. Live 4 Love
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Reply #24 posted 08/16/12 12:09pm

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Tremolina said:

Bring it back to 10 tracks by ditching the subpar, distracting and annoying Daddy Pop, Jughead and Push and you have a terrific album:

  1. Thunder
  2. Diamonds and pearls
  3. Cream
  4. Strolling
  5. Willing and able
  6. Gett off
  7. Walk don't walk
  8. Money don't matter tonight
  9. Insatiable
  10. Live 4 Love

I'll agree with you with scaling back the album. I feel like he just made it as long as possible just because the CD format was becoming more popular.

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Reply #25 posted 08/16/12 12:35pm

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Nivivrus said:

Tremolina said:

Bring it back to 10 tracks by ditching the subpar, distracting and annoying Daddy Pop, Jughead and Push and you have a terrific album:

  1. Thunder
  2. Diamonds and pearls
  3. Cream
  4. Strolling
  5. Willing and able
  6. Gett off
  7. Walk don't walk
  8. Money don't matter tonight
  9. Insatiable
  10. Live 4 Love

I'll agree with you with scaling back the album. I feel like he just made it as long as possible just because the CD format was becoming more popular.

the more songs published the more royalties

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Reply #26 posted 08/17/12 3:54am

kishi

I loooove "Diamonds and Pearls" and "Insatiable". With Prince, I have to listen to his albums from start to finish and I haven't done so with D&P for years. Time to get to it!

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Reply #27 posted 08/17/12 5:26am

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Diamonds and Pearls is still one of my most favourite albums, Insatiable, D & P, Gett Off, Daddy Pop, Thunder and of course Cream. The videos that go with the songs are so lavish with the exception of Money Don't Matter, love Prince in the white silk shirt and embroidered waistcoat!!
I think the piano in the title track is just gorgeous, would really like more of it. Love the tone of Prince's voice in Jughead, also like the rap where the song titles are mentioned as per the track listing on the back hover of the cd.

Is it weird that he mentions Marbella in the song, where he later bought a house for Mayte?
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Reply #28 posted 08/23/12 1:57pm

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clbrooks said:

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I really like the whole era - the look, the tunes, the live stuff...

Let's just not think about rollerskates and mankinis.

lol

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Reply #29 posted 08/24/12 4:08am

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Did anyone like Tony M's contributions?

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