NinaB said:

Yes i know.The fans met them at heathrow airport when they arrived 4 the lovesexy gigs.The fans traveled on the tour buses with P & the band to the hotel stopping at mcdonalds on oxford st along the way. I was gutted when i got the newspapers the following day as i live not to far away! I still have the clippings. It doesnt mean that P had to of eaten hamburger tho! plenty oë peep who dont eat beef do order the fish or chicken you know . Many of the band & fans may of been hungry & wanted mcdnalds. At the time it was typical prince - funny,unpredictable,cool,funky.

My post was a bit tongue in cheek.

As a boardline vegan thats first thing I think of when I hungry in London is to run into macdonalds, mmmmmmm the aroma...

mashedpotato said:

living4love said:

There are certain fatty acids only found in animal products that are necessary for the proper functioning of the human brain. I certainly believe it can cause a freakout, since your brain is slowly dying.

Please list which fatty acids these are. Not a touchy subject at all just looking for an informed comment.

B-12. Correction: there are many plant sources of fatty acids but B-12 complex is necessary for the synthesis of those fatty acids. The few plant foods that are sources of B12 are actually B12 analogs, which are substances that block the uptake of true B12, so your body's need for the nutrient actually increases. B-12 is also the largest vitamin and incredibly hard to absorb from supplements, making supplements almost completely useless. Useful vitamin B12 complex is found exclusively in animal tissues.

Some symptoms of deficiency:

apathy, memory loss, fatigue, mood swings, anemia

This is what vegan health website will tell you about this. http://www.veganhealth.org/b12/mol

Is it helpful? Do you understand it? I would say for the layman this information is confusing and would seem to be written in a different language and I think there's a reason for that. Well, it supports my point.

And I am not bound my ethical or economical obligations to try to make this point. Really, I don't care what people do to their own bodies.

imago said:

herrherr said:

In his interview with George Lopez, he said he is a vegetarian. not sure if there's anything more recent where he talks about it.

I think he admited to eating meat, but that he doesn't touch red meat?

In George Lopez show he said clearly that he is a vegetarian, so this means NO meat of any sorts - this is the definition of vegetarianism. Interesting how some people think that when Prince told he is a vegetarian then he admits at the same time he eats meat He is not a vegan anymore, but this is another story. Vegans do not eat any eggs, dairy, honey

he said on ?lopez he doesn't eat red meat, so i took that as meaning he probably eats stuff like chicken & fish.. anyway to hell with the meat!!

paloma faith was interviewed the other day.. she said when they met he offered her lemon drizzle cake which is obviously a vegetarian choice. the interviewer said she found the idea of prince's lemony drizzle appealing & she wanted the recipe.

imago said:

For the last time:

Prince doesn't fart!

He whispers in his panties.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FONNNY

imago said:

For the last time:

Prince doesn't fart!

He whispers in his panties.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FONNNY

imago said:

For the last time:

Prince doesn't fart!

He whispers in his panties.

Oh, yes.... consider this material STOLEN!

living4love said:

mashedpotato said:

Please list which fatty acids these are. Not a touchy subject at all just looking for an informed comment.

B-12. Correction: there are many plant sources of fatty acids but B-12 complex is necessary for the synthesis of those fatty acids. The few plant foods that are sources of B12 are actually B12 analogs, which are substances that block the uptake of true B12, so your body's need for the nutrient actually increases. B-12 is also the largest vitamin and incredibly hard to absorb from supplements, making supplements almost completely useless. Useful vitamin B12 complex is found exclusively in animal tissues.

Some symptoms of deficiency:

apathy, memory loss, fatigue, mood swings, anemia

This is what vegan health website will tell you about this. http://www.veganhealth.org/b12/mol

Is it helpful? Do you understand it? I would say for the layman this information is confusing and would seem to be written in a different language and I think there's a reason for that. Well, it supports my point.

And I am not bound my ethical or economical obligations to try to make this point. Really, I don't care what people do to their own bodies.

So the vegan website was too scientific for you and you assume it suppports your point because it is too confusing.

There is an advert in Australia with actor Sam Neill for red meat with an orangutang and he talks to it saying that human ancestors ate red meat and that caused our brains to increase and that is why we evolved! I suppose you agree with the 'scientific' theory behind this. This myth has been debunked and is just dumbing down the population to justify the farming and killing of animals.

Vegan Vitamin B12 deficiency is a MYTH

Some vegetarians will avoid becoming vegan because of one simple myth they've heard again and again: they've heard that vegans can suffer from vitamin B12 deficiency based on their diet. Lots of vegetarians decide, based on this faulty information, that they need to continue eating animal protein. However, nothing could be further from the truth.

That's not to say that there is no such thing as vitamin B12 deficiency, because it does exist. People who are deficient of the vitamin experience many symptoms, such as fatigue, weight loss, gastrointestinal issues (such as upset stomach, diarrhea, or constipation), numbness, confusion, and memory loss, to name a few. It does exist, but it's not caused by veganism.

The truth is vegans don't need to worry. They don't need to start taking special supplements or eating nutritional yeast. The biggest untruth feeding this myth is that people have been told the only source of vitamin B12 is through animal-based foods (meat, dairy products, etc.). However, lack of vitamin B12 needn't be a concern, even if a person only eats plant foods. According to Dr. Vivian V. Vetrano, vitamin B12 actually comes from coenzymes, which are already present in bacteria found on the human body (in and around the mouth, for example).

In fact, vitamin B12 deficiency is often, according to Dr. Vetrano, a symptom of a larger problem; that is, it's not caused from a poor diet but rather from deficiency diseases that usually can't be treated simply by having the patient ingest additional vitamin B12. It is often caused by a digestive problem; Dr. Vetrano states that in the case of deficiency the body has a problem absorbing nutrients from food. Vitamin B12 deficiency, rather than being caused by diet, is often caused by Crohn's disease, celiac disease, and other digestive disorders.

Vegetarians who have heard that they don't get enough protein in their diets and know this myth is untrue can rest assured that vitamin B12 deficiency is a myth as well. Instead, vegans need to concentrate on eating plenty of healthy raw foods, nuts, seeds, grains, vegetables and fruits. The truth is people don't have to eat meat or other animal products to survive and thrive. Vitamin B12 deficiency due to a vegan diet is simply a lie that finally needs to be put to rest.

Sources for this story:

http://www.webmd.com/a-to...ia-topi...
http://www.wrongdiagnosis...mptoms.htm
http://www.roylretreat.co...s/b12.html

Learn more:http://www.naturalnews.co...z1x3yLO7h9

mashedpotato said:

living4love said:

B-12. Correction: there are many plant sources of fatty acids but B-12 complex is necessary for the synthesis of those fatty acids. The few plant foods that are sources of B12 are actually B12 analogs, which are substances that block the uptake of true B12, so your body's need for the nutrient actually increases. B-12 is also the largest vitamin and incredibly hard to absorb from supplements, making supplements almost completely useless. Useful vitamin B12 complex is found exclusively in animal tissues.

Some symptoms of deficiency:

apathy, memory loss, fatigue, mood swings, anemia

This is what vegan health website will tell you about this. http://www.veganhealth.org/b12/mol

Is it helpful? Do you understand it? I would say for the layman this information is confusing and would seem to be written in a different language and I think there's a reason for that. Well, it supports my point.

And I am not bound my ethical or economical obligations to try to make this point. Really, I don't care what people do to their own bodies.

So the vegan website was too scientific for you and you assume it suppports your point because it is too confusing.

There is an advert in Australia with actor Sam Neill for red meat with an orangutang and he talks to it saying that human ancestors ate red meat and that caused our brains to increase and that is why we evolved! I suppose you agree with the 'scientific' theory behind this. This myth has been debunked and is just dumbing down the population to justify the farming and killing of animals.

No. You made up that first point and i don't know why. I didn't say it was too scientific for me and I didn't say I was confused. I understand it and and I am not confused. I said it seemed intentionally confusing for someone who isn't accustomed to the terminology.

I am not interested in the killing of animals. You don't have to kill an animal to have a damn egg. I have chickens in my backyard and they're doing just fine.

Just to be clear: the evidence you're citing to make your point is.... a commercial and......quotation marks around the word "science"?

living4love said:

mashedpotato said:

So the vegan website was too scientific for you and you assume it suppports your point because it is too confusing.

There is an advert in Australia with actor Sam Neill for red meat with an orangutang and he talks to it saying that human ancestors ate red meat and that caused our brains to increase and that is why we evolved! I suppose you agree with the 'scientific' theory behind this. This myth has been debunked and is just dumbing down the population to justify the farming and killing of animals.

No. You made up that first point and i don't know why. I didn't say it was too scientific for me and I didn't say I was confused. I understand it and and I am not confused. I said it seemed intentionally confusing for someone who isn't accustomed to the terminology.

I am not interested in the killing of animals. You don't have to kill an animal to have a damn egg. I have chickens in my backyard and they're doing just fine.

Just to be clear: the evidence you're citing to make your point is.... a commercial and......quotation marks around the word "science"?

Talk about touchy....

The thread started as prince eating meat and whether he was vegetarian. It has been pretty much being confirmed that he tried veganism and resorted back to vegetrianism. As we know vegans do not eat more than just meat. Vegetarians eat dairy, eggs etc all which are good sources of B12.

In my disbelief at your original post, I overlooked that you probably meant vegans and not vegetarians. I'm sure you know vegetarians eat dairy, eggs etc and would have no problems getting enough B12.

Even vegans these days with fortification of cereals, soy products etc can get more than enough B12.

Sorry if I unintentionally insulted your intelligence. Being a Prince fan I automatically assume you must have at least an average intelligence!

mashedpotato said:

living4love said:

No. You made up that first point and i don't know why. I didn't say it was too scientific for me and I didn't say I was confused. I understand it and and I am not confused. I said it seemed intentionally confusing for someone who isn't accustomed to the terminology.

I am not interested in the killing of animals. You don't have to kill an animal to have a damn egg. I have chickens in my backyard and they're doing just fine.

Just to be clear: the evidence you're citing to make your point is.... a commercial and......quotation marks around the word "science"?

Talk about touchy....

The thread started as prince eating meat and whether he was vegetarian. It has been pretty much being confirmed that he tried veganism and resorted back to vegetrianism. As we know vegans do not eat more than just meat. Vegetarians eat dairy, eggs etc all which are good sources of B12.

In my disbelief at your original post, I overlooked that you probably meant vegans and not vegetarians. I'm sure you know vegetarians eat dairy, eggs etc and would have no problems getting enough B12.

Even vegans these days with fortification of cereals, soy products etc can get more than enough B12.

Sorry if I unintentionally insulted your intelligence. Being a Prince fan I automatically assume you must have at least an average intelligence!

Don't even get me started on soy!!

Kidding. (Not really.)

But I think we can all agree we've hijacked the thread for long enough!

Personally, I think he needs a good rib eye steak with a slab of bacon to get his FUNK back.

Militant said:

Vegan Vitamin B12 deficiency is a MYTH

Some vegetarians will avoid becoming vegan because of one simple myth they've heard again and again: they've heard that vegans can suffer from vitamin B12 deficiency based on their diet. Lots of vegetarians decide, based on this faulty information, that they need to continue eating animal protein. However, nothing could be further from the truth.

That's not to say that there is no such thing as vitamin B12 deficiency, because it does exist. People who are deficient of the vitamin experience many symptoms, such as fatigue, weight loss, gastrointestinal issues (such as upset stomach, diarrhea, or constipation), numbness, confusion, and memory loss, to name a few. It does exist, but it's not caused by veganism.

The truth is vegans don't need to worry. They don't need to start taking special supplements or eating nutritional yeast. The biggest untruth feeding this myth is that people have been told the only source of vitamin B12 is through animal-based foods (meat, dairy products, etc.). However, lack of vitamin B12 needn't be a concern, even if a person only eats plant foods. According to Dr. Vivian V. Vetrano, vitamin B12 actually comes from coenzymes, which are already present in bacteria found on the human body (in and around the mouth, for example).

In fact, vitamin B12 deficiency is often, according to Dr. Vetrano, a symptom of a larger problem; that is, it's not caused from a poor diet but rather from deficiency diseases that usually can't be treated simply by having the patient ingest additional vitamin B12. It is often caused by a digestive problem; Dr. Vetrano states that in the case of deficiency the body has a problem absorbing nutrients from food. Vitamin B12 deficiency, rather than being caused by diet, is often caused by Crohn's disease, celiac disease, and other digestive disorders.

Vegetarians who have heard that they don't get enough protein in their diets and know this myth is untrue can rest assured that vitamin B12 deficiency is a myth as well. Instead, vegans need to concentrate on eating plenty of healthy raw foods, nuts, seeds, grains, vegetables and fruits. The truth is people don't have to eat meat or other animal products to survive and thrive. Vitamin B12 deficiency due to a vegan diet is simply a lie that finally needs to be put to rest.

Sources for this story:

http://www.webmd.com/a-to...ia-topi...
http://www.wrongdiagnosis...mptoms.htm
http://www.roylretreat.co...s/b12.html

Learn more:http://www.naturalnews.co...z1x3yLO7h9

PurpleJedi said:

Personally, I think he needs a good rib eye steak with a slab of bacon to get his FUNK back.

[Edited 6/11/12 6:09am]

Dewrede said:

PurpleJedi said:

Personally, I think he needs a good rib eye steak with a slab of bacon to get his FUNK back.

[Edited 6/11/12 6:09am]

Prints said:

imago said:

I think he admited to eating meat, but that he doesn't touch red meat?

In George Lopez show he said clearly that he is a vegetarian, so this means NO meat of any sorts - this is the definition of vegetarianism. Interesting how some people think that when Prince told he is a vegetarian then he admits at the same time he eats meat He is not a vegan anymore, but this is another story. Vegans do not eat any eggs, dairy, honey

Yes, I know what a vegan is. I've been a raw vegan before, and quite enjoyed it.

I don't think Prince said he was vegitarian at all. Didn't Lopez say those words?

Prince said, "I Don't touch red meat though." implying that he ate meat.

excited said:

he said on ?lopez he doesn't eat red meat, so i took that as meaning he probably eats stuff like chicken & fish.. anyway to hell with the meat!!

paloma faith was interviewed the other day.. she said when they met he offered her lemon drizzle cake which is obviously a vegetarian choice. the interviewer said she found the idea of prince's lemony drizzle appealing & she wanted the recipe.

THIS

flyorra said:

i don't eat meat anymore, about 1, 700, 000-800 000 years ago our ancestors began to eat meat, and we got tapeworm from those animals we did eat in the savannah. ... back then we had to, it was urgency, a matter of survival for homo erectus which was nearly extinct due to climate. now, we don't fricken need to cage animals and kill them so we can fry them in oil and consume them, it just breaks my heart. i don't even eat oysters or mussels or prawn...we are disturbing nature, and mother nature aint gonna put up with that.

100% believe in that.

flyorra said:

i don't eat meat anymore, about 1, 700, 000-800 000 years ago our ancestors began to eat meat, and we got tapeworm from those animals we did eat in the savannah. ... back then we had to, it was urgency, a matter of survival for homo erectus which was nearly extinct due to climate. now, we don't fricken need to cage animals and kill them so we can fry them in oil and consume them, it just breaks my heart. i don't even eat oysters or mussels or prawn...we are disturbing nature, and mother nature aint gonna put up with that.

woops! double post!

[Edited 6/13/12 1:28am]

purplethunder3121 said:

artist76 said:

meat is murder

gluttony is a deadly sin

thou shall not kill

let no flesh enter your mouth

vegetarians taste better

man shall eat the food that comes from the seed

jesus was vegetarian

u cannot live by consuming death

JoannaLouise said:

Just out of interest does Prince eat meat at all now or is he still veggie?

He eats pussy meat....or rather licks it. No calories.

TrevorAyer said:

meat is murder

gluttony is a deadly sin

thou shall not kill

let no flesh enter your mouth

vegetarians taste better

man shall eat the food that comes from the seed

jesus was vegetarian

u cannot live by consuming death

Jesus was not a vegetarian. The Bible records Jesus eating fish (Luke 24:42-43) and lamb (Luke 22:8-15). Jesus miraculously fed the crowds fish and bread, a strange thing for Him to do if He was a vegetarian (Matthew 14:17-21). In a vision to the apostle Peter, Jesus declared all foods to be clean, including animals (Acts 10:10-15). After the flood in Noah's time, God gave humanity permission to eat meat (Genesis 9:2-3). God has never rescinded this permission.

are you talkin bout the same jesus thats always pettin lil lambs?

what part of thou shall not kill don't you understand?

"But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it." (Genesis 9.4-5)

"To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? Saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of goats. When ye spread forth your hands, I will hide Mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear, for your hands are full of blood." (Isaiah 1.11,15)

"It shall be a perpetual statute for your generations throughout all your dwellings, that ye eat neither fat nor blood. (Leviticus 3.17). . . And whatsoever man there be of the house of Israel, or of strangers who sojourn among you, that eateth any manner of blood; I will even set My face against that soul that eateth blood." (Leviticus 17.10)

Exodus (20.13) in the Hebrew lo tirtzach, which, when accurately translated, means "thou shalt not kill."

"He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man." (Isaiah 66.3)

Genesis (1.29) clearly states: "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."

Romans 14:21
It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause any man to stumble.

Daniel 1:11-16
Daniel then said to the guard whom the chief official had appointed over him: "Please test your servants for ten days: Give us nothing but vegetables to eat and water to drink. Then compare our appearance with that of the young men who eat the royal food, and treat your servants in accordance with what you see." So he agreed to this and tested them for ten days. At the end of the ten days they looked healthier and better nourished than any of the young men who ate the royal food. So the guard took away their meat and the wine they were to drink and gave them vegetables instead.

Jesus was against animal sacrifice. He quoted Hosea 6:6, saying "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings."

It's the bible things contradict each other all the time

*waits for topic to get moved to P&R*

aardvark15 said:

It's the bible things contradict each other all the time

*waits for topic to get moved to P&R*

Okayy??? People forget the bible is chronilogically out of order probably due to King James and whomever else had their hand in trying to keep some things in and some things out etc.

Allz i know is the bible say its ok to eat meat except them hooved varmants like pigs which makes sense becuse pig, though they taste yummy, have crap diets and therefore result in us humans having crappy diets.

Lamb is good though and so is salmon, trout, farm raised chickens, wild turkey, cows that eat grass only and other critters that escape me at the moment.

All seed aint good seed. We can't eat poison ivy or certain mushrooms and weed, though high on my list of herbs, can make you if you consume too much for too long a period.

Honestly I don't give a frack about Prince being vegetarian as it makes him too damn skinny. His man milk taste good though. That's a direct result of vegetenariasm (sp).

Proud vegetarian!