It can't hurt to ask. I'd LOVE to see Prince perform with the Revolution again and the ONLY way I will stop wanting that is for him make it happen.

So come on, Prince! Let's all let bygones be bygones and have one lasting INCOMPARABLE PRINCE EXPERIENCE featuring Prince AND The Revolution, The Time*, The Family*, Appolonia 6*, Madhouse*, and The NPG*. Starting in DETROIT!!!! With special guest host, The One and Only Electrifying Mojo.

You'd have to do multiple shows for the demand. Sellouts EVERY night! You know how we do in the D!

Come on, quit being so mean and do it for the fans.

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You know you want to!

Let's be real about this, no one cares about a Prince and the Revolution reunion but the "old heads" (to quote Michael Baisden). Prince was and will always be who people are paying to see.

daPrettyman said:

Revolution said:

Absolutely right spin.....princes main problem is he has too much money....he doesnt need to do anything....but, why not do it for the bandmembers? Why not release stuff for the fans sake?

Are u his accountant?

No one ever has TOO MUCH MONEY.

His first one tried to rob him, so he fired him, I think.

daPrettyman said:

Let's be real about this, no one cares about a Prince and the Revolution reunion but the "old heads" (to quote Michael Baisden). Prince was and will always be who people are paying to see.

I'd love to see it happen, but Prince and The Revolution coming back together and making new music, touring, etc. would make me feel the same way when Van Halen, Ozzy, etc. make new albums: totally bland. It just seems impossible. At this stage in Prince's career, he is still going strong, releasing good, new music and is still charismatic. Maybe when Prince gets older he'll do a reunion performance. When you rely heavily on your past sucess like MJ did, you just epically fail. So Prince should continue to do what he's doing now.

daPrettyman said:

Let's be real about this, no one cares about a Prince and the Revolution reunion but the "old heads" (to quote Michael Baisden). Prince was and will always be who people are paying to see.

Gee, REALLY??? We'd have NEVER known that, had you not told us.

Anyhoo, I wonder if Prince and the "new heads" could actually be AFRAID to have Prince perform with the Revolution again and WHY on earth would that be?

skywalker said:

rdhull said:

skywalker said: Exactly...hell. Folks don't even want to bear deep cuts, bsides, or rarely played deep cuts unless they are die diehards...90% want the hits.

I think Prince mostly does it right.

Play THE big hits/crowd pleasers at the huge arena/festival sized shows.

Save the fan favorites for aftershows/clubs, theater sized venues ( One Nite Alone Tour), or Paisley Park. Win win.

YES.

When Prince stops doing aftershows at all, that's when he'll become a nostalgia act.

eyewishuheaven said:

skywalker said:

I think Prince mostly does it right.

Play THE big hits/crowd pleasers at the huge arena/festival sized shows.

Save the fan favorites for aftershows/clubs, theater sized venues ( One Nite Alone Tour), or Paisley Park. Win win.

YES.

When Prince stops doing aftershows at all, that's when he'll become a nostalgia act.

Except for the fact that aftershows have nothing to do with him being a nostalgia act at all. So, there's that.

rdhull said:

PurpleRayven said:

I learn something new everyday on the org

You guys really think 90% of the audience for Prince, U2,Stones, Madonna ,Clapton etc are attending to hear all their new stuff?

But they're still getting that in the case of Madonna.

So who's the bold, daring artist now?

eyewishuheaven said:

skywalker said:

I think Prince mostly does it right.

Play THE big hits/crowd pleasers at the huge arena/festival sized shows.

Save the fan favorites for aftershows/clubs, theater sized venues ( One Nite Alone Tour), or Paisley Park. Win win.

YES.

When Prince stops doing aftershows at all, that's when he'll become a nostalgia act.

Let's take a look: http://www.princevault.co...y,_2012-am

The Bird / Jungle Love / The Glamorous Life. Hmm, so he's playing the three greatest hits of associated artists. Songs that were hits 25+ years ago. Nothing nostalgic about that, I guess.

Granted, "Mutiny / Ice Cream Castles" is sort of a deep cut, but at the same time it refers back to the 1986 Parade Tour where this combination was first performed.

Insatiable / Scandalous / Adore: the first two were regularly performed during numerous gigs in the 1990s, and Adore is the big hit that never was from SOTT. Again: not exactly deep cuts, and their inclusion here has got far more to do with nostalgia.

Days Of Wild: a song that IMHO should have been retired after 1995. Every performance post-1995 has devalued this song and has been lifeless and pointless.

Now compare to the Prince of 1984/85, who ignored most of his previous albums and instead focused on Purple Rain, and performed B-Sides and an unreleased song during a concert that was filmed and released on home video and broadcast all over the world on TV.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

It can't hurt to ask. I'd LOVE to see Prince perform with the Revolution again and the ONLY way I will stop wanting that is for him make it happen.

So come on, Prince! Let's all let bygones be bygones and have one lasting INCOMPARABLE PRINCE EXPERIENCE featuring Prince AND The Revolution, The Time*, The Family*, Appolonia 6*, Madhouse*, and The NPG*. Starting in DETROIT!!!! With special guest host, The One and Only Electrifying Mojo.

You'd have to do multiple shows for the demand. Sellouts EVERY night! You know how we do in the D!

Come on, quit being so mean and do it for the fans.

[img:$uid]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e70/SexyBeautifulOne/Prince%20Gifs/tumblr_m423fyw54W1qcvaxho6_250.gif[/img:$uid]

You know you want to!

I like where your head's at!

Prince's problem right now is that 1. he has too many hits. 2. he has too many fans that like the hits. 3. He's gonna be tired going thru the whole night till 0430 (don't know how he does it or how he gets to sleep afterwards) and 4. His main problem is that he must now rest his voice. Other than that I don't think he has any problems.

Let the past be the past. Serious that era is done & over with as it is 2012.

Some of the best moments of my life were at live shows during the 3121 era and Welcome 2 America. I am soooooo bored with this Revolution idea.

Would it be fun to witness for one night. Maybe, after that i'm okay with it.

BartVanHemelen said:

rdhull said:

PurpleRayven said: You guys really think 90% of the audience for Prince, U2,Stones, Madonna ,Clapton etc are attending to hear all their new stuff?

But they're still getting that in the case of Madonna.

So who's the bold, daring artist now?

Yes they are still getting it but 90% dont care to hear it. They are there for the hits. It's good that she does give each new release appropriate shine in each tour. And yes, Prince should do the same even of the releases aren't huge hits. But either way: the majority are there for the hits from both artists.

One dude was flippin out at that triple threat 3rd show back in 2009 when he played a 90% obscure set because he was expecting Purple Rain theatrics and content.

"So who's the bold, daring artist now?"

I would guess you mean Madonna?

Okay...so now what?

Uh huh!

nyse said:

he has more important things to do. . . like watering & tending to his garden

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[Edited 5/25/12 9:20am]

What is meant to be will be. We can't always get what we want. Live in the present and appreciate what we have now.

BartVanHemelen said:

eyewishuheaven said:

YES.

When Prince stops doing aftershows at all, that's when he'll become a nostalgia act.

Let's take a look: http://www.princevault.co...y,_2012-am

The Bird / Jungle Love / The Glamorous Life. Hmm, so he's playing the three greatest hits of associated artists. So,ngs that were hits 25+ years ago. Nothing nostalgic about that, I guess.

Granted, "Mutiny / Ice Cream Castles" is sort of a deep cut, but at the same time it refers back to the 1986 Parade Tour where this combination was first performed.

Insatiable / Scandalous / Adore: the first two were regularly performed during numerous gigs in the 1990s, and Adore is the big hit that never was from SOTT. Again: not exactly deep cuts, and their inclusion here has got far more to do with nostalgia.

Days Of Wild: a song that IMHO should have been retired after 1995. Every performance post-1995 has devalued this song and has been lifeless and pointless.

Now compare to the Prince of 1984/85, who ignored most of his previous albums and instead focused on Purple Rain, and performed B-Sides and an unreleased song during a concert that was filmed and released on home video and broadcast all over the world on TV.

Hmm, serves me right for not looking for a recent aftershow setlist. Is he at least changing up the arrangements, or is he delivering them pretty much as-is?

[EDIT: to be fair, it would have been insanity not to focus on Purple Rain during the Purple Rain tour. ]

rdhull said:

BartVanHemelen said:

But they're still getting that in the case of Madonna.

So who's the bold, daring artist now?

Yes they are still getting it but 90% dont care to hear it. They are there for the hits. It's good that she does give each new release appropriate shine in each tour. And yes, Prince should do the same even of the releases aren't huge hits. But either way: the majority are there for the hits from both artists.

One dude was flippin out at that triple threat 3rd show back in 2009 when he played a 90% obscure set because he was expecting Purple Rain theatrics and content.

"So who's the bold, daring artist now?"

I would guess you mean Madonna?

Okay...so now what?

Prince would get crucified if he did a huge arena tour without playing his best known material.

Look at what happened when he "ditched the hits" and only played the new stuff during the Gold Experience tour. He played, imo, some of the strongest material of his career, but it wasn't crowd pleasing. He received some of the worst concert reviews of his career.

I am glad Madonna plays her new stuff, but as I have been saying, I am sure a huge portion of the audience is wanting Like a Virgin, not Gang Bang or Girl Gone Wild.

I can see certain memebers returning, just not all at once. thats too much like looking back for Prince. He doesn't feel like memories are healthy, he likes to live the moment.

eyewishuheaven said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Let's take a look: http://www.princevault.co...y,_2012-am

The Bird / Jungle Love / The Glamorous Life. Hmm, so he's playing the three greatest hits of associated artists. So,ngs that were hits 25+ years ago. Nothing nostalgic about that, I guess.

Granted, "Mutiny / Ice Cream Castles" is sort of a deep cut, but at the same time it refers back to the 1986 Parade Tour where this combination was first performed.

Insatiable / Scandalous / Adore: the first two were regularly performed during numerous gigs in the 1990s, and Adore is the big hit that never was from SOTT. Again: not exactly deep cuts, and their inclusion here has got far more to do with nostalgia.

Days Of Wild: a song that IMHO should have been retired after 1995. Every performance post-1995 has devalued this song and has been lifeless and pointless.

Now compare to the Prince of 1984/85, who ignored most of his previous albums and instead focused on Purple Rain, and performed B-Sides and an unreleased song during a concert that was filmed and released on home video and broadcast all over the world on TV.

Hmm, serves me right for not looking for a recent aftershow setlist. Is he at least changing up the arrangements, or is he delivering them pretty much as-is?

[EDIT: to be fair, it would have been insanity not to focus on Purple Rain during the Purple Rain tour. ]

seems 2 me that the aftershow setlist has been the same songs for a few years now with just a splash of a few other songs thrown in. but mostly still he's the musician and shelby and the girls singing more than he is

Meloh9 said:

I can see certain memebers returning, just not all at once. thats too much like looking back for Prince. He doesn't feel like memories are healthy, he likes to live the moment.

if that was true then he would have continued in the vain of the gold experience tour not reverting back 2 the hits only show he's been doing regardless of who the bandmembers are

I want cake and ice cream!!

What this isn't a silly wish list?! Please.

Just have a good backing band-made of old band members or new or both. Doesn't matter.

skywalker said:

rdhull said:

skywalker said: Exactly...hell. Folks don't even want to bear deep cuts, bsides, or rarely played deep cuts unless they are die diehards...90% want the hits.

I think Prince mostly does it right.

Play THE big hits/crowd pleasers at the huge arena/festival sized shows.

Save the fan favorites for aftershows/clubs, theater sized venues ( One Nite Alone Tour), or Paisley Park. Win win.

I agree with you guys, and the only reason I am disappointed by Prince's inability to manage a website is because I think it would be a way for him to identify how many diehard fans he has around the country and the globe that would allow him to play to smaller arenas and perform the newer work. I laugh when people who don't like Prince's newer work say "Prince doesn't even like his newer work because he doesn't play it," but then there are all these vids and audios of him playing newer songs, such as "Colonized Mind." So, again, I think the biggest negative of his poor management of websites is his inability to identify and connect with his fan base in a way that would allow him to play his newer work to those who would want it. Of course, I'm objective enough to realize that just because I like his newer work that does not mean that enough people like it to support a tour of any size.

BartVanHemelen said:

Let's take a look: http://www.princevault.co...y,_2012-am

The Bird / Jungle Love / The Glamorous Life. Hmm, so he's playing the three greatest hits of associated artists. So,ngs that were hits 25+ years ago. Nothing nostalgic about that, I guess.

Granted, "Mutiny / Ice Cream Castles" is sort of a deep cut, but at the same time it refers back to the 1986 Parade Tour where this combination was first performed.

Insatiable / Scandalous / Adore: the first two were regularly performed during numerous gigs in the 1990s, and Adore is the big hit that never was from SOTT. Again: not exactly deep cuts, and their inclusion here has got far more to do with nostalgia.

Days Of Wild: a song that IMHO should have been retired after 1995. Every performance post-1995 has devalued this song and has been lifeless and pointless.

Now compare to the Prince of 1984/85, who ignored most of his previous albums and instead focused on Purple Rain, and performed B-Sides and an unreleased song during a concert that was filmed and released on home video and broadcast all over the world on TV.

With Purple Rain, Prince could ignore the past albums because of the mass appeal of Purple Rain. Unfortunately for him, his newer work no longer has that same mass appeal so it is a decision that he makes to play larger venues for more money, which means playing hits rather than playing smaller venues and using a website to get tickets to diehard fans so that he can play newer music. However, one caveat is that many of the so-called diehard fans claim not to like his newer music. So, he is damned if he plays hits and damned if he plays newer music. And while I'd like to see the defiant artist say "F-em, I'm playing was on my heart," when you get a certain age, one tends to mellow, take the large check, and play the new songs when and where one can.

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So, yes, Prince is probably a nostalgia act to the vast majority of mainstream society, and he realizes that and plays what they want. However, since so many so-called diehard fans have complained the last twenty years about his post-eighties work he really does not have much support or evidence that it would be profitable to tour with mostly newer music, which I count as my loss so I continue to extract bits and pieces from bootlegs where he is playing the newer music, combine that into a concert DVD, and enjoy that.

1725topp said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Let's take a look: http://www.princevault.co...y,_2012-am

The Bird / Jungle Love / The Glamorous Life. Hmm, so he's playing the three greatest hits of associated artists. So,ngs that were hits 25+ years ago. Nothing nostalgic about that, I guess.

Granted, "Mutiny / Ice Cream Castles" is sort of a deep cut, but at the same time it refers back to the 1986 Parade Tour where this combination was first performed.

Insatiable / Scandalous / Adore: the first two were regularly performed during numerous gigs in the 1990s, and Adore is the big hit that never was from SOTT. Again: not exactly deep cuts, and their inclusion here has got far more to do with nostalgia.

Days Of Wild: a song that IMHO should have been retired after 1995. Every performance post-1995 has devalued this song and has been lifeless and pointless.

Now compare to the Prince of 1984/85, who ignored most of his previous albums and instead focused on Purple Rain, and performed B-Sides and an unreleased song during a concert that was filmed and released on home video and broadcast all over the world on TV.

With Purple Rain, Prince could ignore the past albums because of the mass appeal of Purple Rain. Unfortunately for him, his newer work no longer has that same mass appeal so it is a decision that he makes to play larger venues for more money, which means playing hits rather than playing smaller venues and using a website to get tickets to diehard fans so that he can play newer music. However, one caveat is that many of the so-called diehard fans claim not to like his newer music. So, he is damned if he plays hits and damned if he plays newer music. And while I'd like to see the defiant artist say "F-em, I'm playing was on my heart," when you get a certain age, one tends to mellow, take the large check, and play the new songs when and where one can.

*

So, yes, Prince is probably a nostalgia act to the vast majority of mainstream society, and he realizes that and plays what they want. However, since so many so-called diehard fans have complained the last twenty years about his post-eighties work he really does not have much support or evidence that it would be profitable to tour with mostly newer music, which I count as my loss so I continue to extract bits and pieces from bootlegs where he is playing the newer music, combine that into a concert DVD, and enjoy that.

Prince pretty much played almost the entire new album with each tour from Dirty Mind to Lovesexy, D+P and as well. For Gold/Come/Chaos, he was performing those songs (making up the majority of the setlist) as much as 3 years before their release. Cmon man.

Prince is coasting and has been for some time. Can't say I blame him, he's been a multi-millionaire for a very long time. Yet rotating a bunch of talented day players into his band lineup doesn't really keep those 20 year old arrangements fresh. And frankly, Prince has always emphasized his bandmates with varying degrees of success. This current band is as cohesive and interesting as a bowl of wheaties.

Spinlight said:

1725topp said:

With Purple Rain, Prince could ignore the past albums because of the mass appeal of Purple Rain. Unfortunately for him, his newer work no longer has that same mass appeal so it is a decision that he makes to play larger venues for more money, which means playing hits rather than playing smaller venues and using a website to get tickets to diehard fans so that he can play newer music. However, one caveat is that many of the so-called diehard fans claim not to like his newer music. So, he is damned if he plays hits and damned if he plays newer music. And while I'd like to see the defiant artist say "F-em, I'm playing was on my heart," when you get a certain age, one tends to mellow, take the large check, and play the new songs when and where one can.

*

So, yes, Prince is probably a nostalgia act to the vast majority of mainstream society, and he realizes that and plays what they want. However, since so many so-called diehard fans have complained the last twenty years about his post-eighties work he really does not have much support or evidence that it would be profitable to tour with mostly newer music, which I count as my loss so I continue to extract bits and pieces from bootlegs where he is playing the newer music, combine that into a concert DVD, and enjoy that.

Prince pretty much played almost the entire new album with each tour from Dirty Mind to Lovesexy, D+P and as well. For Gold/Come/Chaos, he was performing those songs (making up the majority of the setlist) as much as 3 years before their release. Cmon man.

Prince is coasting and has been for some time. Can't say I blame him, he's been a multi-millionaire for a very long time. Yet rotating a bunch of talented day players into his band lineup doesn't really keep those 20 year old arrangements fresh. And frankly, Prince has always emphasized his bandmates with varying degrees of success. This current band is as cohesive and interesting as a bowl of wheaties.

I always felt that he was burned during the USA leg of the Lovesexy tour. Arguably, his best tour ever (certainly his most ambitious) and he wasn't selling out venues. He was playing to 1/2 empty places in some cases.

So, what's a surefire bet for HUGE audiences? Promise them/play them the hits.

Notice that his next tour was a "greatest hits" tour (Nude tour).

Notice that his next tour in the US was for the album and it was smaller venues.

Notice that next time he did and arena tour in the US (Jam of the Year) it was packed with "The hits"???

Spinlight said:

Prince pretty much played almost the entire new album with each tour from Dirty Mind to Lovesexy, D+P and as well. For Gold/Come/Chaos, he was performing those songs (making up the majority of the setlist) as much as 3 years before their release. Cmon man.

Prince is coasting and has been for some time. Can't say I blame him, he's been a multi-millionaire for a very long time. Yet rotating a bunch of talented day players into his band lineup doesn't really keep those 20 year old arrangements fresh. And frankly, Prince has always emphasized his bandmates with varying degrees of success. This current band is as cohesive and interesting as a bowl of wheaties.

Spinlight, I agree with Skywalker that what changed for Prince was the poor reaction and ticket sells to the Lovesexy Tour. As Skywalker echoes, in the Rolling Stone interview "Prince Talks," which was during the Nude Tour, Prince stated that "people don't want to pay a lot for tickets to hear songs they don't know." So, Prince's embracing of the greatest hits was in direct correlation of being overtaken on the radio and charts by hip hop and grunge and never being able to return to his heights of radio and the charts. Now, I'll agree that being a millionaire makes it easy for him to say, "To hell with it, here are the damn hits," but I do not see him as coasting.

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Ultimately, you and I disagree that Prince is coasting. I just can't hear songs like "Musicology" and "Colonized Mind" and think that he is coasting. So, I think that he plays the hits because, again, that's what the majority of people want, and his so-called diehard fans have been telling him that they hate his new music for twenty years now. Again, he is damned if he does and damned if it doesn’t. What is ironic, if not hypocrital, to me is that most fans want it both ways. They want to bemoan that he doesn't make the type or quality of music as he did during the eighties, but, with the same mouth, want to bemoan that all he plays are the hits. People tell him his new stuff sucks, then they complain when he plays the old hits. He can't win.

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Finally, other than Andy Allo, I disagree that his current bands are sub-par. In fact, as far as musical range, I actually like the tone, texture, depth, and range of his bands from Musicology to the present more than I like the Revolution, which I liked for their ability to play the songs from Purple Rain to Parade, but they seem more electric and not as funky as the band for the Musicology Tour. No disrespect, but while Wendy may have been a better songwriter, as far as pure performance, I'll take Mike Scott and Rhonda over Wendy and Brownmark any day. And while I love Lisa, I'll take Chance, Renato, and Mr. Hayes over Lisa, but not over Dr. Fink. Now Dez and Andre will cause me to hesitate, but, again, other than Andy Allo, he has continued to work with some excellent musicians and singers over the past ten years. Now, if we can just get someone to break that damn easel that Allo uses and give her a bus ticket to the wrong city, I'll be a happy man.

If (and thats a BIG IF) he should ever decide to reunite with the Revolution, it should only be for ONE show, and one show only.

No tour, no new record, no press.

Much like the 1st Avenue show last year.

And then sell it as a CD and DVD.

Anything else would be un-Princely like.

But I must admit, we should get one last chance to see them before they/we start...... well you know.

And "why the Revolution" you ask?

Because unlike the NPG, they were around when he was at his peak and most successful. Non-fanatics would actually who they were and be interested what they would sound like.

A bit like Paul MacCartney and Wings.